ImageImageImageImageImage

[Fischer] OG Re-Signing With Knicks Not A Certainty

Moderators: 7 Footer, Morris_Shatford, DG88, niQ, Duffman100, tsherkin, Reeko, lebron stopper, HiJiNX

How Good Would The Raptors Be Next Year If They Re-Signed OG?

Top 6 Playoff Team
43
28%
Play-in Team
57
37%
Lottery
16
10%
No clue but I'm here for the madness and Dolan's tears lol
38
25%
 
Total votes: 154

Smalltown
Senior
Posts: 685
And1: 620
Joined: Sep 10, 2014
     

Re: [Fischer] OG Re-Signing With Knicks Not A Certainty 

Post#421 » by Smalltown » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:05 pm

Mak wrote:OKC


Only have 30m in space now and are hard capped because of the caruso trade. So NY beats that easy.

Mak wrote:Orlando, Sixers


Better chance than NY? No. And Philly is an Embiid injury away from being mediocre.
User avatar
Agimat
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,103
And1: 4,071
Joined: Dec 10, 2011
   

Re: [Fischer] OG Re-Signing With Knicks Not A Certainty 

Post#422 » by Agimat » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:05 pm

If the Knicks deal Randle, will they have enough cap space to sign OG? OG was a significant difference maker when Randle sat out the rest of the season, and I feel like that's what they're leaning into.
Ackshun
General Manager
Posts: 8,872
And1: 4,765
Joined: Jul 24, 2006

Re: [Fischer] OG Re-Signing With Knicks Not A Certainty 

Post#423 » by Ackshun » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:06 pm

ItsDanger wrote:The X factor in all this is how much of an offensive role does OG want in the end. Now, he's 3rd/4th option again just standing in the corners?


Yeah this is a good point. For years we heard about his desire for a bigger role on the offensive end. Now, at best he’s a third option, again.

Money talks though. Should be interesting to see what they do. Can’t imagine they trade Randle without a guarantee from OG.
User avatar
Spragga
General Manager
Posts: 7,776
And1: 1,685
Joined: Jun 03, 2004

Re: [Fischer] OG Re-Signing With Knicks Not A Certainty 

Post#424 » by Spragga » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:07 pm

So now we will see if the rumors were true that OG wanted out because he wanted to be more featured on offense. If thats true then hes not staying.
why was hakeem called "the dream"??"

Because it rhymes with 'Olajuwon'.

remember Canadians are just Mexicans with sweaters
PushDaRock
RealGM
Posts: 12,611
And1: 9,756
Joined: Jun 22, 2011

Re: [Fischer] OG Re-Signing With Knicks Not A Certainty 

Post#425 » by PushDaRock » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:08 pm

brownbobcat wrote:
Smalltown wrote:
brownbobcat wrote:Why would that necessarily be the case? Bridges can play the 2 and the incoming salary isn't that much more than Bogdanovic.


While i still 100% expect OG to resign there. It gives NY a little more leverage to play hardball on his contract. They only have like 47 million to fill out like 7-8 spots. Seems like a lot until you factor in OG's contract. Every penny is going to matter at this point.

I don't think it changes much for OG or NYK from a bargaining standpoint. He's still going to evaluate the Knicks offer + his desire to stay in NYC vs his options (possibly Philly). If anything, they're going to say, "look, we improved the team a lot today and this is the amount of $ left if we want to keep the team together." Adding Bridges might sway OG to take less than the max because of how much better the team is now, not NYK playing hardball.


It feels like Philly and OKC are the only other possibilities from the Knicks. Philly can max him and sell him on an expanded role. OKC needs to create a bit more cap room or do a sign and trade with all their assets, but would be similar to the Knicks situation being loaded but missing that big wing defender. OKC probably has more options they can look at though so they have to really want OG to make the move.
Smalltown
Senior
Posts: 685
And1: 620
Joined: Sep 10, 2014
     

Re: [Fischer] OG Re-Signing With Knicks Not A Certainty 

Post#426 » by Smalltown » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:10 pm

PushDaRock wrote:It feels like Philly and OKC are the only other possibilities from the Knicks. Philly can max him and sell him on an expanded role. OKC needs to create a bit more cap room or do a sign and trade with all their assets, but would be similar to the Knicks situation being loaded but missing that big wing defender. OKC probably has more options they can look at though so they have to really want OG to make the move.


OKC can't get it done over 30m.
brownbobcat
Head Coach
Posts: 6,822
And1: 3,778
Joined: Jun 09, 2006

Re: [Fischer] OG Re-Signing With Knicks Not A Certainty 

Post#427 » by brownbobcat » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:24 pm

Smalltown wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:It feels like Philly and OKC are the only other possibilities from the Knicks. Philly can max him and sell him on an expanded role. OKC needs to create a bit more cap room or do a sign and trade with all their assets, but would be similar to the Knicks situation being loaded but missing that big wing defender. OKC probably has more options they can look at though so they have to really want OG to make the move.


OKC can't get it done over 30m.

If they really wanted to, it wouldn't be hard for OKC to clear enough space. They have a ton of assets to incentivize teams. Do they value OG enough to pay him 2X vs. Dort? Doubtful.
User avatar
Indeed
RealGM
Posts: 21,719
And1: 3,623
Joined: Aug 21, 2009

Re: [Fischer] OG Re-Signing With Knicks Not A Certainty 

Post#428 » by Indeed » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:32 pm

Agimat wrote:If the Knicks deal Randle, will they have enough cap space to sign OG? OG was a significant difference maker when Randle sat out the rest of the season, and I feel like that's what they're leaning into.


Based on Woj, their plan is to play OG and Bridges at SF and SG to match Boston of Tatum and Brown.

They may need to figure out their backup C, and probably they are not affriad of going above the tax.
User avatar
Asif16
RealGM
Posts: 19,471
And1: 27,695
Joined: Feb 03, 2013
     

Re: [Fischer] OG Re-Signing With Knicks Not A Certainty 

Post#429 » by Asif16 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:42 pm

Knicks wont be dealing randle. They still view him as a "big 3" sort of player who is a legit inside threat.

Hartenstein will not be back and they will trade Mitchell Robinson to make OG fit in the cap
Dalek
RealGM
Posts: 13,877
And1: 10,676
Joined: Jan 24, 2005
Location: At the elbow - dropping dimes
 

Re: [Fischer] OG Re-Signing With Knicks Not A Certainty 

Post#430 » by Dalek » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:43 pm

Any non-NY team can only get to $180m while NY is likely when all is said and done going to pay him $200m over five years. This is a done deal but OG just trying to get to that $40m a season range. A lot of money for a guy who gets hurt a lot.
PushDaRock
RealGM
Posts: 12,611
And1: 9,756
Joined: Jun 22, 2011

Re: [Fischer] OG Re-Signing With Knicks Not A Certainty 

Post#431 » by PushDaRock » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:48 pm

Asif16 wrote:Knicks wont be dealing randle. They still view him as a "big 3" sort of player who is a legit inside threat.

Hartenstein will not be back and they will trade Mitchell Robinson to make OG fit in the cap


Who plays the 5? Randle at the 5 seems like a very bad idea other than for some closing lineups.
User avatar
Asif16
RealGM
Posts: 19,471
And1: 27,695
Joined: Feb 03, 2013
     

Re: [Fischer] OG Re-Signing With Knicks Not A Certainty 

Post#432 » by Asif16 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:50 pm

PushDaRock wrote:
Asif16 wrote:Knicks wont be dealing randle. They still view him as a "big 3" sort of player who is a legit inside threat.

Hartenstein will not be back and they will trade Mitchell Robinson to make OG fit in the cap


Who plays the 5? Randle at the 5 seems like a very bad idea other than for some closing lineups.


They're trying to match up against the celtics, I would assume Randle can handle the 5.

But my guess is, they would sign a Center for cheap
PushDaRock
RealGM
Posts: 12,611
And1: 9,756
Joined: Jun 22, 2011

Re: [Fischer] OG Re-Signing With Knicks Not A Certainty 

Post#433 » by PushDaRock » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:52 pm

Asif16 wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
Asif16 wrote:Knicks wont be dealing randle. They still view him as a "big 3" sort of player who is a legit inside threat.

Hartenstein will not be back and they will trade Mitchell Robinson to make OG fit in the cap


Who plays the 5? Randle at the 5 seems like a very bad idea other than for some closing lineups.


They're trying to match up against the celtics, I would assume Randle can handle the 5.

But my guess is, they would sign a Center for cheap


Randle is undersized and offers zero rim protection, so he hasn't really shown that he can in the past.
User avatar
Agimat
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,103
And1: 4,071
Joined: Dec 10, 2011
   

Re: [Fischer] OG Re-Signing With Knicks Not A Certainty 

Post#434 » by Agimat » Wed Jun 26, 2024 10:25 pm

Indeed wrote:
Agimat wrote:If the Knicks deal Randle, will they have enough cap space to sign OG? OG was a significant difference maker when Randle sat out the rest of the season, and I feel like that's what they're leaning into.


Based on Woj, their plan is to play OG and Bridges at SF and SG to match Boston of Tatum and Brown.

They may need to figure out their backup C, and probably they are not affriad of going above the tax.

Yeh, its official now! Knicks roster looks potent ngl
mrdressup
Head Coach
Posts: 6,254
And1: 5,604
Joined: Apr 23, 2007

Re: [Fischer] OG Re-Signing With Knicks Not A Certainty 

Post#435 » by mrdressup » Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:55 am

Seems like it was pretty certain to me.

Return to Toronto Raptors