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Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2

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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1341 » by Embiid P » Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:02 pm

MikRay wrote:Let’s be frank we were better with Elton running the show. This summer is not over but it’s not looking good.


Yes, we were better off with the guy who traded for and signed Tobias Harris and Al Horford to their contracts which pretty much stifled our flexibility for the last 4-5 seasons and put us in the less than ideal position that we are in now. Great idea. :roll:
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1342 » by the_process » Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:03 pm

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At the very least, the optics are good.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1344 » by Black Mage » Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:05 pm

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MikRay wrote:Let’s be frank we were better with Elton running the show. This summer is not over but it’s not looking good.


Yes, we were better off with the guy who traded for and signed Tobias Harris and Al Horford to their contracts which pretty much stifled our flexibility for the last 4-5 seasons and put us in the less than ideal position that we are in now. Great idea. :roll:



Let's not forget he also took on Josh Richardson in the Jimmy trade rather than demand more draft assets and then we had to pay to dump Richardson.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1345 » by Mik317 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:11 pm

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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1346 » by Embiid-MVP » Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:11 pm

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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1347 » by Negrodamus » Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:14 pm

I love Twitter. I told a complete lie, but it's a "joke". The punchline was....?
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1348 » by Embiid P » Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:17 pm

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sammorey wrote:You guys are focusing too much on the Suns situation. The problem wasn't acquiring 3 max guys. It was the 3 max guys they chose. They are all overrated in varying degrees (Beal being the most) and they overlap with each other too much.


Ok, let's say we acquire our third max guy whether via free agency or a trade. Then what? Do we simply round out the rest of the roster with draft picks and vet minimum guys? After what Mikal Bridges who is a really good role player but not a star brought back for the Nets, trading for a star will likely cost more. We likely wouldn't have any young players on cheap contracts who are significant contributors for a few seasons, which would make us even more dependent on hoping that players on vet minimum contracts round out the rest of the roster.



Show me what would you do with $45 million instead of just signing OG? The guys in the $10-$30 million range are generally the worst contracts in the NBA.

I'll admit, I was just hoping we'd sign PG. But that looks like it isn't an option. I'm less thrilled with OG at a near max, but I'd prefer that instead of signing three guys for depth.


Signing OG while certainly not cheap would at least allow us $15-20 million to sign another starter. As I said before, signing or trading for a third max player only makes sense if we had a bunch of young contributors on cheap contracts. Sadly, we do not.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1349 » by KramerDSP » Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:20 pm

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Negrodamus wrote:
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And took him 59 minutes to realize he didn’t want to spread misinformation. On draft day. On twitter. FOH
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1350 » by youngcrev » Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:21 pm

Negrodamus wrote:I love Twitter. I told a complete lie, but it's a "joke". The punchline was....?


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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1351 » by MikRay » Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:22 pm

Black Mage wrote:
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MikRay wrote:Let’s be frank we were better with Elton running the show. This summer is not over but it’s not looking good.


Yes, we were better off with the guy who traded for and signed Tobias Harris and Al Horford to their contracts which pretty much stifled our flexibility for the last 4-5 seasons and put us in the less than ideal position that we are in now. Great idea. :roll:



Let's not forget he also took on Josh Richardson in the Jimmy trade rather than demand more draft assets and then we had to pay to dump Richardson.


He had us with in 5 lucky bounces from probably going to the finals. Just a fact.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1352 » by Jailblazers7 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:25 pm

I’d love to have Lauri in Philly but he’s the guy OKC should cash in their picks for.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1353 » by Stanford » Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:26 pm

Jailblazers7 wrote:I’d love to have Lauri in Philly but he’s the guy OKC should cash in their picks for.


You think Chet is a C longterm?
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1354 » by Slacktard » Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:29 pm

Perfect is the enemy of good.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1355 » by Sixersftw » Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:37 pm

Slacktard wrote:Perfect is the enemy of good.

I'm begging for good man.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1356 » by Jailblazers7 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:38 pm

Stanford wrote:
Jailblazers7 wrote:I’d love to have Lauri in Philly but he’s the guy OKC should cash in their picks for.


You think Chet is a C longterm?


I do as long as you pair him with a good rebounder at PF like Lauri. Their ability to spread you out defensively & have playmakers at every position would more than make up for any size disadvantage they had up front.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1357 » by Stanford » Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:40 pm

Jailblazers7 wrote:
Stanford wrote:
Jailblazers7 wrote:I’d love to have Lauri in Philly but he’s the guy OKC should cash in their picks for.


You think Chet is a C longterm?


I do as long as you pair him with a good rebounder at PF like Lauri. Their ability to spread you out defensively & have playmakers at every position would more than make up for any size disadvantage they had up front.


You're probably right.

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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1358 » by sixers hoops » Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:46 pm

Black Mage wrote:
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MikRay wrote:Let’s be frank we were better with Elton running the show. This summer is not over but it’s not looking good.


Yes, we were better off with the guy who traded for and signed Tobias Harris and Al Horford to their contracts which pretty much stifled our flexibility for the last 4-5 seasons and put us in the less than ideal position that we are in now. Great idea. :roll:


Let's not forget he also took on Josh Richardson in the Jimmy trade rather than demand more draft assets and then we had to pay to dump Richardson.


He also signed Ben that summer. Ben, Horford, and Tobias were three of the worst contracts in the league for years. Took a first to dump Horford. Tobias was too bad to even do that. And fortunately we got positive value for Ben.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1359 » by Negrodamus » Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:57 pm

[Kyle Neubeck] As a general rule, NBA teams should not make moves based on the emotions of their fans. A healthy chunk of this fanbase (I would even argue a slim majority) wanted to move Embiid and build around “Simmons and shooters” coming out of a disastrous 2019-20 season. Whoops! But there is undeniable outside pressure to make a move that genuinely moves the needle.


I wouldn't be surprised if there were some who still felt that way before he was injured in Brooklyn for two years.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1360 » by AI_Efficiency » Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:02 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
[Kyle Neubeck] As a general rule, NBA teams should not make moves based on the emotions of their fans. A healthy chunk of this fanbase (I would even argue a slim majority) wanted to move Embiid and build around “Simmons and shooters” coming out of a disastrous 2019-20 season. Whoops! But there is undeniable outside pressure to make a move that genuinely moves the needle.


I wouldn't be surprised if there were some who still felt that way before he was injured in Brooklyn for two years.

To Neubeck's point though, yes, a GM just doing what the fans want all the time is silly (especially if the GM has reason to believe it will be bad long term). That said, the fans are the ones that make this thing go by watching games, buying tickets, getting merchandise, etc. and if you ignore what they want completely, not sure that is the best either.

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