Miami/Houston

louc1970 · Post #1 » by **louc1970** » Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:58 pm

Rumors of Houston’s interest in Durant lead to a high cost to bring in Durant. Probably some picks, and 2 of the younger players along with FVV.

A cheaper alternative may be to go after Butler.

Miami trades Butler
Houston trades FVV, Sengun, #3. If not #3 then a 25 and 27 FRP.

Houston gets that primary player to lead the young guys.
Miami gets another big to pair with Adebayo. A better PG to move Rozier to the bench or for other pieces.

Post #2 » by **BBallFreak** » Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:01 pm

I'm down but I think Houston fans are going to hate this

Colbinii · Post #3 » by **Colbinii** » Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:05 pm

Woah, massive overpay here.

Sengun + FVV is where I would start if I am Houston.

Colbinii · Post #4 » by **Colbinii** » Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:05 pm

BBallFreak wrote:I'm down but I think Houston fans are going to hate this

This is significantly more value than Butler has ever been traded for

Post #5 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:11 pm

Feels like Houston would trade for Butler to put him WITH FVV, rather than instead of FVV. Seems like it should be centered around Jimmy for Brooks/expirings plus value.

K_chile22 · Post #6 » by **K_chile22** » Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:24 pm

Colbinii wrote:Woah, massive overpay here.

Sengun + FVV is where I would start if I am Houston.

I would absolutely not trade Sengun for Butler. Franchise crippler right there. Butler is too old for the long term and not enough to make a contender in the short term

Skybox · Post #7 » by **Skybox** » Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:36 pm

I like Butler to HOU, but throwing in Sengun is truly overboard. FVV + #3 is a LOT, imo. Butler would make HOU, possibly, a real contender…assuming the loss of FVV wasn’t a huge blow…I guess the hope is that Amen is ready for more on-ball major minutes.

I think this is more fair to HOU…
MIA sends: Butler, #15
HOU sends: #3, FVV

Post #8 » by **BBallFreak** » Wed Jun 26, 2024 10:12 pm

Skybox wrote:I like Butler to HOU, but throwing in Sengun is truly overboard. FVV + #3 is a LOT, imo. Butler would make HOU, possibly, a real contender…assuming the loss of FVV wasn’t a huge blow…I guess the hope is that Amen is ready for more on-ball major minutes.

I think this is more fair to HOU…
MIA sends: Butler, #15
HOU sends: #3, FVV

I don't think we give up 15

LarsV8 · Post #9 » by **LarsV8** » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:00 pm

So you would be looking at a straight swap of FVV for a Butler rental. Which leaves us without a PG, so might have to look at a Harden Sign and Trade Scenario in conjunction.

Sengun and #3 would both obviously be off the table.

louc1970 · Post #10 » by **louc1970** » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:36 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:Feels like Houston would trade for Butler to put him WITH FVV, rather than instead of FVV. Seems like it should be centered around Jimmy for Brooks/expirings plus value.

Ok. Brooks and ? Adams?
From a Miami perspective I wonder how many SFs they want - Robinson, Juarez, Brooks.

Xman · Post #11 » by **Xman** » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:45 pm

Someone else would pay more than Houston.
Houston needs a booker Trae or Mitchell.

Kiss of Death · Post #12 » by **Kiss of Death** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:04 am

Yeah that’s not gonna happen.
Sengun isn’t going anywhere.

Post #13 » by **SD2042** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:20 am

I have been on the side of a Durant trade from the Suns due to their cap space. However, the Rockets is not a team I had on the list for KD. So I do not get this perspective.

Post #14 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:25 am

louc1970 wrote:
Scoot McGroot wrote:Feels like Houston would trade for Butler to put him WITH FVV, rather than instead of FVV. Seems like it should be centered around Jimmy for Brooks/expirings plus value.

Ok. Brooks and ? Adams?
From a Miami perspective I wonder how many SFs they want - Robinson, Juarez, Brooks.

Salary wise? Brooks, Landale, Tate, etc, as salary. Find the incentive in terms of picks and one young player that makes it work. :dontknow:

patman66 · Post #15 » by **patman66** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:17 am

Way too much for butler. Cmon, the guy misses too many games.

MoreyWins · Post #16 » by **MoreyWins** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:07 pm

Sengun should be off limits in trade proposals until people understand his value

Post #17 » by **jbk1234** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:12 pm

I think the Rockets should move Sengun before he gets off his rookie contract, but I don't like a Butler trade for either team.

louc1970 · Post #18 » by **louc1970** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:23 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:
louc1970 wrote:
Scoot McGroot wrote:Feels like Houston would trade for Butler to put him WITH FVV, rather than instead of FVV. Seems like it should be centered around Jimmy for Brooks/expirings plus value.

Ok. Brooks and ? Adams?
From a Miami perspective I wonder how many SFs they want - Robinson, Juarez, Brooks.

Salary wise? Brooks, Landale, Tate, etc, as salary. Find the incentive in terms of picks and one young player that makes it work.

You made the suggestion to swap in Brooks. Who you want to send?

louc1970 · Post #19 » by **louc1970** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:23 pm

MoreyWins wrote:Sengun should be off limits in trade proposals until people understand his value

Except the rumors of moving Sengun are coming from Rocket sources.

Post #20 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:26 pm

louc1970 wrote:
Scoot McGroot wrote:
louc1970 wrote:Ok. Brooks and ? Adams?
From a Miami perspective I wonder how many SFs they want - Robinson, Juarez, Brooks.

Salary wise? Brooks, Landale, Tate, etc, as salary. Find the incentive in terms of picks and one young player that makes it work.

You made the suggestion to swap in Brooks. Who you want to send?

Whichever salary makes the deal work? If Miami agrees to value somewhere?

I wasn’t taking it upon myself to solve the whole deal. Just pointing out that it seems like Butler/Brooks would be swapped for each other rather than played together, and that if Houston is dealing for Butler, they probably want to keep FVV. That was the extent of my desire to suggest.