ImageImageImageImage

Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread II

Moderators: UCF, Knightro, UCFJayBird, Def Swami, Howard Mass, ChosenSavior

User avatar
drsd
RealGM
Posts: 39,279
And1: 8,981
Joined: Mar 16, 2003
     

Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread II 

Post#641 » by drsd » Tue Jun 25, 2024 6:43 am

drsd wrote:Nothing on Orlando resigning Hezonja yet?


The dream is over: Mario Hezonja stays with Real Madrid.

He was quite blunt on eXtwitter:

Real Madrid believed in me when many didn’t ...


Read on Twitter
jezzerinho
Analyst
Posts: 3,173
And1: 2,227
Joined: Jul 08, 2019
   

Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread II 

Post#642 » by jezzerinho » Tue Jun 25, 2024 7:12 am

drsd wrote:
drsd wrote:Nothing on Orlando resigning Hezonja yet?


The dream is over: Mario Hezonja stays with Real Madrid.

He was quite blunt on eXtwitter:

Real Madrid believed in me when many didn’t ...


Read on Twitter


More nightmare than dream, that would be..

Kid is a few nuggets short of a Happy Meal.
User avatar
fendilim
RealGM
Posts: 31,928
And1: 5,499
Joined: Jun 11, 2002
Location: 孫悟空, 时间太?!

Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread II 

Post#643 » by fendilim » Tue Jun 25, 2024 5:01 pm

drsd wrote:
drsd wrote:Nothing on Orlando resigning Hezonja yet?


The dream is over: Mario Hezonja stays with Real Madrid.

He was quite blunt on eXtwitter:

Real Madrid believed in me when many didn’t ...


Read on Twitter

Shams reported his deal had an nba out before july 19. Not sure if i read it correctly
Image
User avatar
RookieStar
RealGM
Posts: 28,090
And1: 8,180
Joined: Jul 01, 2009
 

Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread II 

Post#644 » by RookieStar » Tue Jun 25, 2024 9:48 pm

drsd wrote:
drsd wrote:Nothing on Orlando resigning Hezonja yet?


The dream is over: Mario Hezonja stays with Real Madrid.

He was quite blunt on eXtwitter:

Real Madrid believed in me when many didn’t ...


Read on Twitter


Another of those stars using our team as leverage to get their big bucks with the team of their choice...
User avatar
eyriq
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 34,346
And1: 9,746
Joined: Mar 25, 2008
Location: #TheLab
Contact:
 

Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread II 

Post#645 » by eyriq » Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:27 pm

User avatar
KillMonger
RealGM
Posts: 20,794
And1: 11,256
Joined: Oct 13, 2012
     

Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread II 

Post#646 » by KillMonger » Wed Jun 26, 2024 10:09 pm

What's the deal with Fultz/Harris? We have to wait until the 30th? Or could we have already resigned them if we wanted?

Sent from my [Hands] using RealGM mobile app
Image
User avatar
eyriq
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 34,346
And1: 9,746
Joined: Mar 25, 2008
Location: #TheLab
Contact:
 

Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread II 

Post#647 » by eyriq » Fri Jun 28, 2024 2:26 am

KillMonger wrote:What's the deal with Fultz/Harris? We have to wait until the 30th? Or could we have already resigned them if we wanted?

Sent from my [Hands] using RealGM mobile app
The deadline is on Saturday
User avatar
eyriq
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 34,346
And1: 9,746
Joined: Mar 25, 2008
Location: #TheLab
Contact:
 

Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread II 

Post#648 » by eyriq » Fri Jun 28, 2024 2:43 pm

This is a nice analysis

Read on Twitter
?t=eyM1TQl7IB6Eov4pbFzZNw&s=19
User avatar
eyriq
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 34,346
And1: 9,746
Joined: Mar 25, 2008
Location: #TheLab
Contact:
 

Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread II 

Post#649 » by eyriq » Fri Jun 28, 2024 7:46 pm

Read on Twitter
?t=tfAvmVkxZ4JMc7jgGCdQWA&s=19
Skybox
RealGM
Posts: 18,640
And1: 8,555
Joined: Jan 21, 2017
 

Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread II 

Post#650 » by Skybox » Fri Jun 28, 2024 7:52 pm

eyriq wrote:
Read on Twitter
?t=tfAvmVkxZ4JMc7jgGCdQWA&s=19


ORL sends: Anthony Black, Wendell Carter
DET sends: Jaden Ivey, Jalen Duren

Just kidding eyriq
User avatar
SOUL
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 59,324
And1: 41,055
Joined: Dec 11, 2006
Location: Orl★ndo
     

Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread II 

Post#651 » by SOUL » Wed Jul 3, 2024 1:23 am

Read on Twitter


Franz is so good at this, but shout out for the bigs for the screening/Gortat screens. WCJ is notably great at these which goes underlooked.
www.rareslums.com // please support my writing!
User avatar
Kent
Analyst
Posts: 3,033
And1: 1,684
Joined: Aug 13, 2005
Location: Orlando baby!
 

Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread II 

Post#652 » by Kent » Thu Jul 4, 2024 12:35 am

SOUL wrote:
Read on Twitter


Franz is so good at this, but shout out for the bigs for the screening/Gortat screens. WCJ is notably great at these which goes underlooked.


So fun to watch.

It's like exploiting physics in a video game.
Ryan Anderson = Pat Garrity 10.0
-LBPTarHeel27
User avatar
eyriq
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 34,346
And1: 9,746
Joined: Mar 25, 2008
Location: #TheLab
Contact:
 

Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread II 

Post#653 » by eyriq » Sat Jul 6, 2024 2:32 pm

The Magic won 13 more games than last season. I figured it could be insightful to analyze where those wins came from using WS (win shares) from B-R.

Total Win Shares in '24: 47.5
Total Win Shares in '23: 36.7
Net Change: 10.8

The Magic's 13-game improvement over last season is primarily driven by internal player development, contributing 12.1 win shares (WS). Key improvements came from Jonathan Isaac (+3.3 WS), Suggs (+3.3 WS), and Banchero (+2.9 WS). Roster turnover resulted in a net loss of 1.3 WS, with new additions like Ingles (+2.6 WS) and Black (+1.6 WS) not fully offsetting the departures of Bol (2.3 WS) and Bamba (2.1 WS). Some players, such as Fultz (-2.4 WS), regressed badly.

Wins lost due to roster turnover:
-5.7
Bol 2.3
Bamba 2.1
Ross 0.6
Scrubb 0.1
MCW 0

Wins gained due to roster turnover:
4.4
Ingles 2.6
Black 1.6
Queen 0.2
Jett 0

Wins lost due to internal development:
-4.5
Fultz -2.4
Admiral -0.8
Kevon -0.6
Okeke -0.4
WCJ -0.2
Cole -0.1

Wins gained due to internal development:
16.6
JI 3.3
Suggs 3.3
Banchero 2.9
Goga 2.7
Moritz 2.2
Franz 1
Houstan 0.8
Harris 0.4
User avatar
eyriq
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 34,346
And1: 9,746
Joined: Mar 25, 2008
Location: #TheLab
Contact:
 

Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread II 

Post#654 » by eyriq » Sat Jul 6, 2024 4:17 pm

Some key observations:

JI and Suggs deserve a ton of credit for our improvement. Scaling them up will be a critical growth driver next season. I underestimated how critical they were before doing this analysis.

Roster management providing a net negative in win shares is a bad look for the front office.

Player development clearly driving our improvement is a great look for Mosley.

WCJ and Cole are stuck in the mud. Do we expect them to be growth drivers going forward? They are still young enough to improve.

Franz improved but not nearly as much a Paolo. Does Paolo overtake him next season?

What do we expect roster management to net us next season? Ingles, Okeke, and Fultz are out, KCP and TDS are in. I think the front office might actually have added to our wins with the decisions they made this off season.
User avatar
eyriq
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 34,346
And1: 9,746
Joined: Mar 25, 2008
Location: #TheLab
Contact:
 

Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread II 

Post#655 » by eyriq » Sat Jul 6, 2024 4:21 pm

Read on Twitter
?t=GlXouxoxWlwfScv-FI0J_A&s=19
jezzerinho
Analyst
Posts: 3,173
And1: 2,227
Joined: Jul 08, 2019
   

Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread II 

Post#656 » by jezzerinho » Sat Jul 6, 2024 9:52 pm

Weltman loves a reclamation project.

Poku?
RichCollab
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,379
And1: 1,417
Joined: Oct 23, 2019
         

Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread II 

Post#657 » by RichCollab » Sat Jul 6, 2024 9:57 pm

jezzerinho wrote:Weltman loves a reclamation project.

Poku?


We aren’t in that stage. I don’t see it happening.
yoyojw17
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,850
And1: 3,453
Joined: Dec 26, 2011
Location: Gainesville,FL
 

Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread II 

Post#658 » by yoyojw17 » Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:03 am

HoopsHype Interview

For the second consecutive year, Orlando Magic head coach Jamahl Mosley is the head coach of the USA Select Team.

Following practice earlier this week, Mosley spoke with HoopsHype about signing Kentavious Caldwell-Pope in free agency, Franz Wagner’s extension, extension talks with Jalen Suggs, and more.

What was the significance for the Orlando Magic to land a notable free agent on the first day of free agency in Kentavious Caldwell-Pope?

Jamahl Mosley: I think a big portion of that goes into what we’re creating and what we’ve built. Jeff Weltman, Alex Martins, and the DeVos family. What we’ve built, and the way in which we are approaching each season. The atmosphere and the environment that these guys feel every single day. The way in which we showed up on the court. Other guys see that, and they recognize the culture that’s being built here.

What does KCP bring to the Magic?

JM: His résumé speaks for itself in so many ways with two championships. He’s a guy that wants to sit down and guard first. He can knock down open shots. He’s selfless and understands the sacrifice and the little things that he needs to do and what teams need to do in order to win big in this league. He brings that through experience, his voice, and leadership with these guys.

What did the Franz Wagner extension mean for him and show about the organization’s commitment to him?

JM: We’ve said from day one when he was one of our first drafts – he and Jalen Suggs. We talk about growing this organically through the draft and being able to grow and get guys better. It shows the belief of each guy getting better as soon as they step into the gym. It’s what our coaching staff has done with those guys and what our front office has believed in. It says so much that we believe in these young guys getting better because that’s what it’s about.

What’s the next step in Franz Wagner‘s development?

JM: Continuing to believe in who he is. He’s shown his body of work and is continuing to improve there. You talk about his basketball IQ, his toughness, and stepping it up defensively. Those are the same areas we want to continue to have him grow in. He’s willing to take on that challenge because he’s a tireless worker who’s about winning and the team.

What are your thoughts on a potential extension for Jalen Suggs?

JM: That’s for our front office to deal with and to communicate. Both sides will continue to talk. Our job is to continue to get Jalen better on the court and make strides.

What do you work on over the summer as a coach to improve?

JM: Finding different ways to help lead these guys to put them in the best position possible. The Xs and Os of the game are always going to be something you talk about when we are in these meetings with coaches. But the ability to keep connecting with these guys at a high level and not just with the players but our staff as well, so everybody understands exactly the mission we are on and the mission we have moving forward.

How does last year‘s playoff appearance change how people around the league view this team?

JM: You’re no longer going to sneak up on anyone. You embrace the expectations of people, knowing you’re going to be better and that you have the experience of not just the regular season but also the playoffs. You embrace the expectations. You embrace what’s coming. But you know you have to tighten up everything a little bit more. You’ve got to be able to dive into the details. You’ve got to focus on the little things in the game, which is what the game of basketball is. You continue to work hard. Continue to focus on the details and push each other.

What should Magic fans be looking forward to this upcoming season?

JM: I think it’s going to be an exciting season for us. We said when we first started with the draft that we’ve got a special group that’s continued to grow. It’s a great time to be an Orlando Magic fan.
JRoy
RealGM
Posts: 16,999
And1: 14,339
Joined: Feb 27, 2019
 

Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread II 

Post#659 » by JRoy » Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:21 am

drsd wrote:
drsd wrote:Nothing on Orlando resigning Hezonja yet?


The dream is over: Mario Hezonja stays with Real Madrid.

He was quite blunt on eXtwitter:

Real Madrid believed in me when many didn’t ...


Read on Twitter


Hezonja should post an apology to the world on x for playing basketball.

He is ass.
Edrees wrote:
JRoy wrote:Monta Ellis have it all


I was hoping and expecting this to be one of the first replies. You did not disappoint. Jroy have it all.
User avatar
KillMonger
RealGM
Posts: 20,794
And1: 11,256
Joined: Oct 13, 2012
     

Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread II 

Post#660 » by KillMonger » Sun Jul 14, 2024 8:58 am

suggs......uhh....what's taking so long
Image

Return to Orlando Magic