2024 Free Agency

Post #201 » by **Klomp** » Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:14 am

winforlose wrote:I would need to check the list of best available, but I would err towards a center as Naz, Miller, Jaden, and others can play PF in a pinch, but only Karl and maybe Naz can back up Rudy.

Well I would hope so since Naz and Miller are both PFs

Norseman79 · Post #202 » by **Norseman79** » Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:14 am

How many free agent forwards, that will be affordable, hit over 36% from 3? That was league avg last year I believe. I believe Fontecchio is the only one that's a free agent and available. No idea on cost

MN7725 · Post #203 » by **MN7725** » Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:39 am

Mattya wrote:
Neeva wrote:
Mattya wrote:If you can't keep Slowmo, then I'd probably go after Batum. Can't imagine Roco with a chance to pick where he wants to play will pick a place his wife didn't like, but he would be solid too. Then probably Jingles.

Hopefully the market dries up for a movement shooter, I think that is probably the next priority.

As for back up PG, maybe you can get Patty Mills to play 3rd string at this point.

Roco is washed. I like Batum, but think I prefer younger guys or guys in their prime or about to hit their prime instead of a vet on last legs. Good chances they can still improve.

I just dont see the forwards that we could actually pay to come here that are better than Batum. Maybe we can get lucky tho.

I don't either, that combo forward type player is really thin FA crop, even if MLE was available, just not many guys

Cedi Osman? <Batum
Crowder is couple years younger, equal player to Batum
Reddish, I've always been intrigued by him, but he's just not good
T Prince- don't miss him

the only name that is interesting to me is if Detroit doesn't try to keep Fontecchio (RFA)

there are some more wing/SG sized players available, but they wouldn't be able to guard the guys KA did effectively, probably ANT would have to do that more

winforlose · Post #204 » by **winforlose** » Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:54 am

Klomp wrote:
winforlose wrote:I would need to check the list of best available, but I would err towards a center as Naz, Miller, Jaden, and others can play PF in a pinch, but only Karl and maybe Naz can back up Rudy.

Well I would hope so since Naz and Miller are both PFs

I think you misunderstood my post. I meant that if KAT, Naz, Jaden, and Miller were all unavailable (think Covid catastrophe from a few years back,) Ant or Minott could fill in for a part or all of a game or two. You have more small ball PFs on the roster than small ball Centers. That is why you want a primary C who can in a pinch fill in at PF, rather than a PF who can in a pinch fill in at C. You don’t want Jaden or Miller being forced to guard KP, or Joker, or a JV or other large body Cs. You can choose to match them up if it favors you (think Jaden on Chet,) but you want the big body option yourself. Again, I don’t know who is available, but someone like that is probably a target.

moss_is_1 · Post #205 » by **moss_is_1** » Sat Jun 29, 2024 3:24 am

Fonteccchio would be great but he's not coming here for the minimum. Doubt Batum will either, maybe Rudy can convince him.

We're looking at Ingles, Fournier, or Kyle probably.

Norseman79 · Post #206 » by **Norseman79** » Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:14 am

How about Jordan Nwora? Defense sucks, but never an issue scoring. Minott could be there for defense.

McDaniels, Nwora and Minott could be a nice SF group.

KGdaBom · Post #207 » by **KGdaBom** » Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:31 am

I don't know if Morris or Kyle are coming back, but I believe in Miller, Shannon and Dillingham. We will add three new players to our active roster right there.

minimus · Post #208 » by **minimus** » Sat Jun 29, 2024 7:06 am

Norseman79 wrote:How many free agent forwards, that will be affordable, hit over 36% from 3? That was league avg last year I believe. I believe Fontecchio is the only one that's a free agent and available. No idea on cost

Full MLE

minimus · Post #209 » by **minimus** » Sat Jun 29, 2024 7:25 am

Guys after reading your posts about FA market I am even more impressed by Connelly draft. FA market is a bidding war, where MIN have no casino chips and is destined to lose. It is like you enter casino and you already lost. When TC got Dillingham and Shannon he has given MIN a chance to play. The rest will be story.

Norseman79 · Post #210 » by **Norseman79** » Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:03 pm

I'm actually starting to think they might just give Minott the shot to backup McDaniels this year. If they don't resign slo-mo.

People don't agree, but I still think Rudy's backup is a bigger deal than the attention it's getting

KGdaBom · Post #211 » by **KGdaBom** » Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:38 pm

Norseman79 wrote:I'm actually starting to think they might just give Minott the shot to backup McDaniels this year. If they don't resign slo-mo.

People don't agree, but I still think Rudy's backup is a bigger deal than the attention it's getting

Garza.

Norseman79 · Post #212 » by **Norseman79** » Sat Jun 29, 2024 3:04 pm

Curious to see how everybody thinks this shakes out. One thing I've always believed in, in multiple sports, is that you should have three people at each position. You have your starter, you have a capable veteran, you have a young guy you're developing to replace one of the two players above him. The Wolves seem to have this somewhat in place at shooting guard and power forward, but seem thin at the other 3 spots.

PG - Conley Jr (starter and vet), Dillingham (young guy developing),no capable veteran

SG - Ant (vet and starter), NAW (capable vet), Shannon (young guy developing), Clark (young guy developing (2way contract))

SF - McDaniels (vet starter), Minott (youngish guy developing) no capable vet

PF - Towns (vet starter), Reid (capable vet), Miller (young guy developing)

C - Gobert (vet starter), Edwards (youngish (24) guy developing (2way contract)), no capable vet.

I believe NBA teams can carry 15 players plus two 2-way guys. (How they just have an officially awarded teams a minor league program is beyond me). There are 13 players listed above, including 2 two-way guys. Meaning we have room for four players. Personally, I would like to see us round out the roster by adding a couple of bigs, a shooter at 3, a 3&D PG.

3&D PG Dennis Smith Jr. - Capable of starting in a pinch, demon on ball, plays fast and improved 3pt shot. Ego has chilled as well.

3pt shooter/scorer SF - Jordan Nwora. Why? Cheap and is basically a bucket. He shoots well and when given time can put points up quick. There is not much else, but could be a product of bad teams and culture. There are other names, obviously Slo-mo doesn't fit this, but he is essentially a guy who is back as just a solid ball player.

Big bangers C- Andre Drummond (assuming he is cheap) and Luke Kornet. Big bodies, veterans that can fill roles and not hurt you if they play. (I wouldn't mind Garza here if Drummond signs).

If the Wolves view this as a championship window, fill out that roster with pieces that make sense.

Norseman79 · Post #213 » by **Norseman79** » Sat Jun 29, 2024 3:05 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
Norseman79 wrote:I'm actually starting to think they might just give Minott the shot to backup McDaniels this year. If they don't resign slo-mo.

People don't agree, but I still think Rudy's backup is a bigger deal than the attention it's getting

Garza.

Meh

KGdaBom · Post #214 » by **KGdaBom** » Sat Jun 29, 2024 3:12 pm

Norseman79 wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Norseman79 wrote:I'm actually starting to think they might just give Minott the shot to backup McDaniels this year. If they don't resign slo-mo.

People don't agree, but I still think Rudy's backup is a bigger deal than the attention it's getting

Garza.

Meh

Think of this. Garza is considered by many to not be an NBA player due to defensive considerations. Dillingham was in the bottom half percent of college defenders. Both of them are buckets. I think Garza is underrated.

minimus · Post #215 » by **minimus** » Sat Jun 29, 2024 3:25 pm

I thought we can have three two ways. Minimum roster is 14 players

jpatrick · Post #216 » by **jpatrick** » Sat Jun 29, 2024 3:27 pm

Read on Twitter

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I’m not sure how much he has left, but he can still shoot and knows Rudy/Conley. Maybe a vet min guy if we let Anderson go.

Norseman79 · Post #217 » by **Norseman79** » Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:01 pm

minimus wrote:I thought we can have three two ways. Minimum roster is 14 players

This could be. Never made sense to me why teams wouldn't have 15 up, and at least five to ten on a minor league affiliate.

minimus · Post #218 » by **minimus** » Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:13 pm

jpatrick wrote:

Read on Twitter

I’m not sure how much he has left, but he can still shoot and knows Rudy/Conley. Maybe a vet min guy if we let Anderson go.

This would be my dream scenario!

winforlose · Post #219 » by **winforlose** » Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:15 pm

minimus wrote:
jpatrick wrote:

Read on Twitter

I’m not sure how much he has left, but he can still shoot and knows Rudy/Conley. Maybe a vet min guy if we let Anderson go.

This would be my dream scenario!

I have my doubts. There are definitely benefits to having Joe Ingles. But how much value does the ghost of Joe Ingles have?

BlacJacMac · Post #220 » by **BlacJacMac** » Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:30 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
Norseman79 wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:Garza.

Meh

Think of this. Garza is considered by many to not be an NBA player due to defensive considerations. Dillingham was in the bottom half percent of college defenders. Both of them are buckets. I think Garza is underrated.

Huge difference between a Center that can't defend and a PG that can't.

You can hide a PG top an extent by putting him on the weakest offensive player of the other team. But a Center is your last line of defense. Putting Garza out there puts extreme pressure on our perimeter defenders to never get beat off the dribble. So they have ti play off their man and not aggressively.

Garza is a fun story, but he's not in the rotation of a contender.