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Post#401 » by TheNetsFan » Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:02 am

Decipher wrote:Hawks just dumped Murray & we could’ve beaten the Pelicans deal easily

Definitely full tank

I think people are sleeping on Daniels' potential. On paper, he should be a nice fit next to Trae.

The Pels are just below the tax line and have no real bigs left other than Zion. I wonder if they will start sniffing around Sharpe.
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#402 » by Papi_swav » Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:44 am

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Netaman wrote:not gonna lie im getting myself pretty far down the road on the tre mann hype train. acquired from OKC at the deadline and put into the starting lineup with Ball out, now he's going to get stuck behind him again.

Charlotte has new GM and supposedly one of the teams interested in CamJ. plenty of FRPs to trade including Miami and Dallas in 2027. Mann and a FRP sound like a good deal to me.


I definitely wouldn't mind if the nets went this route. But I'd still love to pull Topic or Wallace from the Thunder. That's my ideal scenario, followed by Jaden Ivey from the Pistons. In your scenario, is that first rounder the hornets trade protected at all?

yea Mimic looks like a legit point guard with great passing, reminds me of Ricky Rubio but bigger. Mann played well when he went to Charlotte as well. Any of the above would be great prospects for the team to build on
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#403 » by Decipher » Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:03 am

Quickley signed for 5 years/$175 million

Cam T is going to get a massive payday
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#404 » by Packers+NetsWIN » Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:17 am

Decipher wrote:Quickley signed for 5 years/$175 million

Cam T is going to get a massive payday



If he has another similar season to the one he just had, in terms of statistics and improvements, I say we have to keep him. I've honestly always been a big fan of his though since the nets drafted him so I could be biased here

But he'll be a restricted free agent and I'm not sure a lot of teams will have cap space next off-season, so we could just let me him explore his options and match whatever deal he is offered from another team.
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#405 » by Netaman » Sat Jun 29, 2024 3:35 am

Packers+NetsWIN wrote:
Netaman wrote:not gonna lie im getting myself pretty far down the road on the tre mann hype train. acquired from OKC at the deadline and put into the starting lineup with Ball out, now he's going to get stuck behind him again.

Charlotte has new GM and supposedly one of the teams interested in CamJ. plenty of FRPs to trade including Miami and Dallas in 2027. Mann and a FRP sound like a good deal to me.


I definitely wouldn't mind if the nets went this route. But I'd still love to pull Topic or Wallace from the Thunder. That's my ideal scenario, followed by Jaden Ivey from the Pistons. In your scenario, is that first rounder the hornets trade protected at all?


i think the miami pick has lotto protections that get looser over time if it doesnt convey. id be thrilled with wallace too.
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#406 » by Packers+NetsWIN » Sat Jun 29, 2024 3:56 am

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Packers+NetsWIN wrote:
Netaman wrote:not gonna lie im getting myself pretty far down the road on the tre mann hype train. acquired from OKC at the deadline and put into the starting lineup with Ball out, now he's going to get stuck behind him again.

Charlotte has new GM and supposedly one of the teams interested in CamJ. plenty of FRPs to trade including Miami and Dallas in 2027. Mann and a FRP sound like a good deal to me.


I definitely wouldn't mind if the nets went this route. But I'd still love to pull Topic or Wallace from the Thunder. That's my ideal scenario, followed by Jaden Ivey from the Pistons. In your scenario, is that first rounder the hornets trade protected at all?


i think the miami pick has lotto protections that get looser over time if it doesnt convey. id be thrilled with wallace too.


If that's the case, I'd definitely be happy with Mann and the Miami 1st for sure then too
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Post#407 » by Packers+NetsWIN » Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:14 am

I was also thinking about it, and do you guys think there is any realistic chance the Nets can also get their 2027 pick back from Houston as well? If they were focused on getting that pick back too, I'm sure it would have already been included in the deal they already made with Houston for the '25 and '26 picks. But if Houston can't find a deal they like this off-season, do you see any way in which the nets can swoop in and make an offer to get the '27 back (if so, what?)

Also, on a completely different note, does anyone know when this Mikal trade needs to be finalized? I want to know what happens with Deuce McBride if he gets added. I'd be ecstatic if the Nets received him - young, on a great contract, and great defender with potential to grow on offense in my opinion
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#408 » by Paradise » Sat Jun 29, 2024 5:45 am

Packers+NetsWIN wrote:I was also thinking about it, and do you guys think there is any realistic chance the Nets can also get their 2027 pick back from Houston as well? If they were focused on getting that pick back too, I'm sure it would have already been included in the deal they already made with Houston for the '25 and '26 picks. But if Houston can't find a deal they like this off-season, do you see any way in which the nets can swoop in and make an offer to get the '27 back (if so, what?)

Also, on a completely different note, does anyone know when this Mikal trade needs to be finalized? I want to know what happens with Deuce McBride if he gets added. I'd be ecstatic if the Nets received him - young, on a great contract, and great defender with potential to grow on offense in my opinion

We already have a 2027 pick likely top 10 from Philadelphia. Embiid becomes a free agent that year.

It’s going to be a lotto pick.
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#409 » by Packers+NetsWIN » Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:32 am

Paradise wrote:
Packers+NetsWIN wrote:I was also thinking about it, and do you guys think there is any realistic chance the Nets can also get their 2027 pick back from Houston as well? If they were focused on getting that pick back too, I'm sure it would have already been included in the deal they already made with Houston for the '25 and '26 picks. But if Houston can't find a deal they like this off-season, do you see any way in which the nets can swoop in and make an offer to get the '27 back (if so, what?)

Also, on a completely different note, does anyone know when this Mikal trade needs to be finalized? I want to know what happens with Deuce McBride if he gets added. I'd be ecstatic if the Nets received him - young, on a great contract, and great defender with potential to grow on offense in my opinion

We already have a 2027 pick likely top 10 from Philadelphia. Embiid becomes a free agent that year.

It’s going to be a lotto pick.


That 2027 draft pick from Philly is protected 1-to-8. If the the 2027 pick doesn't convey, it would roll over to 2028 protected 1-to-8 again. The pick turns into two seconds and $2M in 2029.

So if Embidd does opt out in his final year and leave, the Nets may never see a first from that part of the James Harden trade. And even if they do, it will never be higher than the #9. I know I'd feel much better have control of their 2027 pick, just in case the rebuild still isn't going smoothly by that time. But obviously as long as it doesn't cost the Nets and arm and a leg to re-obtain back
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#410 » by Keith Van Horn » Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:38 pm

Packers+NetsWIN wrote:I was also thinking about it, and do you guys think there is any realistic chance the Nets can also get their 2027 pick back from Houston as well? If they were focused on getting that pick back too, I'm sure it would have already been included in the deal they already made with Houston for the '25 and '26 picks. But if Houston can't find a deal they like this off-season, do you see any way in which the nets can swoop in and make an offer to get the '27 back (if so, what?)

Also, on a completely different note, does anyone know when this Mikal trade needs to be finalized? I want to know what happens with Deuce McBride if he gets added. I'd be ecstatic if the Nets received him - young, on a great contract, and great defender with potential to grow on offense in my opinion

I had been thinking about that too.

I bet Houston is saving that one, thinking it's very coveted, and hoping they can use it to acquire Durant.

But maybe they get told repeatedly to kick rocks on KD and would take Cam J instead...
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Post#411 » by Keith Van Horn » Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:46 pm

Decipher wrote:Quickley signed for 5 years/$175 million

Cam T is going to get a massive payday

Yeah I wonder if they're going to give him some kind of a deal this offseason.

I would like to see him passing and driving to the rim improve this year. By driving I mean aggressively to the hoop... I feel like we don't see his attack game/dunking very much. Would like to see defenders really get serious in defending his attacks... which would ultimately lead to his passing game improve too.
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#412 » by Packers+NetsWIN » Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:52 pm

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Packers+NetsWIN wrote:I was also thinking about it, and do you guys think there is any realistic chance the Nets can also get their 2027 pick back from Houston as well? If they were focused on getting that pick back too, I'm sure it would have already been included in the deal they already made with Houston for the '25 and '26 picks. But if Houston can't find a deal they like this off-season, do you see any way in which the nets can swoop in and make an offer to get the '27 back (if so, what?)

Also, on a completely different note, does anyone know when this Mikal trade needs to be finalized? I want to know what happens with Deuce McBride if he gets added. I'd be ecstatic if the Nets received him - young, on a great contract, and great defender with potential to grow on offense in my opinion

I had been thinking about that too.

I bet Houston is saving that one, thinking it's very coveted, and hoping they can use it to acquire Durant.

But maybe they get told repeatedly to kick rocks on KD and would take Cam J instead...


Yeah, I apologize I didn't give you the credit. You actually posted about it in one of your earlier posts a few days ago and that's what got me thinking about it. So sorry it's late but here's your shout out now

And I'm not sure if the Rockets would be interested, but I'd definitely give them Cam johnson for that '27 pick swap back along with salary filler. The nets would still have Schroeder, Bogdanvic, and DFS as trade bait, plus whatever that salary filler is from the Rockets.

I'm just thinking since the team seems to be fully embracing the "rebuild through the draft approach", it's important to have EVERY potential draft pick of team's at their disposal.
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#413 » by Netaman » Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:31 pm

I dont think the Nets care about paying a premium for 2027 because I dont think they are going to embrace tanking to near the degree everyone expects. This year's team will tank all by itself and the 2025 draft appears to be exceptional, so i think that was the real main objective with the 2026 as a secondary.

Put another way, I wouldn't be surprised if the Nets prefer the 2028 Phoenix swap they were able to keep (which im sure HOU also wanted) to their own pick in 2027 (which by then I think they expect that they will not only have added several quality young players via draft but also probably signed some kind of max player from FA like Fox, or whoever while PHO is likely to be in a real rebuild).

The more I read about not just Flagg but Bailey, Traore, Harper, Edgecomb, etc. the more I think they knew they needed to do everything they could for a top 5-10 pick + extra ammo to move around next year. The top of that draft appears stacked even before some inevitable unexpected breakouts. 2026 is an extra insurance policy and im sure they were happy to return it, and value wise im sure it fit with the fact that HOU wanted to get all 3 non-swap PHO picks.
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#414 » by Wisedude » Sat Jun 29, 2024 3:21 pm

CL sends Isaacc Okoro (sign and trade) and Caris Levert to BKN for Cam johnson Levert could fetch a No 1 pick for BKN as he is a talent that has real trade value. Probably never happen.
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#415 » by Netaman » Sat Jun 29, 2024 3:32 pm

Wisedude wrote:CL sends Isaacc Okoro (sign and trade) and Caris Levert to BKN for Cam johnson Levert could fetch a No 1 pick for BKN as he is a talent that has real trade value. Probably never happen.


dont think it's crazy but think nets would need a pick if it's camj.

or simpler a S&T swapping okoro/wade for DFS.
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#416 » by Packers+NetsWIN » Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:27 pm

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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#417 » by Papi_swav » Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:14 pm

Packers+NetsWIN wrote:
Decipher wrote:Quickley signed for 5 years/$175 million

Cam T is going to get a massive payday



If he has another similar season to the one he just had, in terms of statistics and improvements, I say we have to keep him. I've honestly always been a big fan of his though since the nets drafted him so I could be biased here

But he'll be a restricted free agent and I'm not sure a lot of teams will have cap space next off-season, so we could just let me him explore his options and match whatever deal he is offered from another team.

Honestly I would not be happy to give Cam that kind of contract, yea he can score with the best of them but he doesn't contribute much as far as winning. He's just not a winning player and he's an undersize scorer. For him to get that he would have to vastly improve other parts of his game like passing and defense. Now that he basically has the keys to the team I see him putting up astronomical scoring numbers on a bad team so that should boost his trade value. And I'm hoping we can get something good for him.
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#418 » by Keith Van Horn » Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:40 pm

Yeah I really want to see Cam improve in those areas I mentioned.

Who knows, maybe he's not part of the rebuild and his current deal makes some sort of a big trade that much better in our favor.
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#419 » by Netaman » Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:39 pm

this is sort of interesting - wonder if JB tries to poach Okoro above MLE forcing CLE becomes a little more desperate for someone like DFS/CamJ?

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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#420 » by Packers+NetsWIN » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:49 pm

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I really hope the Nets can receive McBride in the expanded deal too. But I doubt that's what ends up happening

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