ImageImageImageImageImage

iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87

Moderators: Deeeez Knicks, HerSports85, j4remi, NoLayupRule, GONYK, dakomish23, mpharris36, Jeff Van Gully

User avatar
NYKinMIA
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,471
And1: 5,107
Joined: Jul 26, 2012
Location: - Snootchie Town
 

Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#201 » by NYKinMIA » Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:34 pm

Image
User avatar
TrueWarrior
RealGM
Posts: 19,103
And1: 8,519
Joined: Jul 26, 2004
Location: Behind You

Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#202 » by TrueWarrior » Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:50 pm

People in NYC sh*t on OKC and ORL but those are fine cities to live in too, especially if you’re rich and on the road half the year. Can also have houses in other places for the offseason. If Isaiah leaves for a bunch more money (these states have lower taxes too), and maybe more offensive freedom, I wouldn’t blame the guy.

Isaiah and his agent knew what they were doing when he only signed a 2 year deal instead of 3. This was the consequence if he broke out, as we dont have his full bird rights. Maybe he wasnt expecting this, but he should have taken the extra year. There’s a possibility he never truly intended to stay.

We’ll find out tomorrow. Not picking a big in the 1st/early 2nd gives some confidence, but if Isaiah leaves we wouldn’t replace him with a rookie anyway. Either got something else spicy lined up or we’ll go after Goga or whoever.
User avatar
sol537
RealGM
Posts: 15,470
And1: 8,025
Joined: Nov 07, 2001

Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#203 » by sol537 » Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:51 pm

I’m going to continue to believe that iHart will stay and immaculate vibes will continue.
User avatar
robillionaire
RealGM
Posts: 40,509
And1: 58,332
Joined: Jul 12, 2015
Location: Asheville
     

Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#204 » by robillionaire » Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:56 pm

sol537 wrote:I’m going to continue to believe that iHart will stay and immaculate vibes will continue.


Let us hope
User avatar
Context
RealGM
Posts: 32,797
And1: 22,179
Joined: Jul 06, 2005
Location: where the Gods dwell! shhhhhhh
 

Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#205 » by Context » Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:02 pm

No news is good news…
$65 million is the same as $100 million…
But $65 million+plus a chip and happiness at work with no regrets is NOT the same as $100 in ORL and definitely not OKC!
Image
Luka | Scotty |Dunn
Bane | Pritchard | Branham
Oubre | Jmac | Peyton
AD | Clarke | Jaylin
Chet | I.Jackson | Neemias
User avatar
Context
RealGM
Posts: 32,797
And1: 22,179
Joined: Jul 06, 2005
Location: where the Gods dwell! shhhhhhh
 

Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#206 » by Context » Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:07 pm

Again, Ihart strikes me as a player who has a high bbiq-
Is he really leaving this team so his wife can just have more stuff? He can have more cars? Security and generational wealth come with all offers…

I think the kid will value a work place with a group he loves to play with- assuming that -that was his experience...
Image
Luka | Scotty |Dunn
Bane | Pritchard | Branham
Oubre | Jmac | Peyton
AD | Clarke | Jaylin
Chet | I.Jackson | Neemias
User avatar
3toheadmelo
RealGM
Posts: 96,315
And1: 138,245
Joined: Feb 15, 2015
 

Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#207 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:14 pm

Read on Twitter
Image
It’s like when lil bitches make subliminal records, if it ain’t directed directly at me, I don’t respect it
User avatar
sol537
RealGM
Posts: 15,470
And1: 8,025
Joined: Nov 07, 2001

Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#208 » by sol537 » Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:18 pm

Giving him a trade kicker and that 4th year being a player option (so he could renogotiate a bigger deal sooner) should help get him closer to other offers. All these NYK cap maneuvers in recent days all point to a full court press of IHart. We’ll know within 48 hours…
User avatar
NYKnickerbocker
RealGM
Posts: 19,937
And1: 14,336
Joined: Oct 10, 2012
Location: Queens
       

Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#209 » by NYKnickerbocker » Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:22 pm

If I’m IHart I’m taking the cash lol. Man has been nurising a bad Achilles for damn near 3 seasons. **** could blow at any moment and all the joker lite vibes will gone in an instant
Jeffrey
General Manager
Posts: 8,636
And1: 6,316
Joined: Aug 02, 2010
     

Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#210 » by Jeffrey » Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:31 pm

NYKnickerbocker wrote:If I’m IHart I’m taking the cash lol. Man has been nurising a bad Achilles for damn near 3 seasons. **** could blow at any moment and all the joker lite vibes will gone in an instant


I hate to say this but yes.

1. His time is limited in this chapter of his life. Get your bags
2. Yes, you can be immortal in NY but usually people will talk about the alphas (Brunson, Randle, etc.)
3. People will forget what you've done to sacrifice for the team

He has already lost millions because of draft rumors that made him drop to the 2nd round.
WargamesX
RealGM
Posts: 10,853
And1: 8,105
Joined: Apr 10, 2017
   

Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#211 » by WargamesX » Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:31 pm

NYKnickerbocker wrote:If I’m IHart I’m taking the cash lol. Man has been nurising a bad Achilles for damn near 3 seasons. **** could blow at any moment and all the joker lite vibes will gone in an instant


:o
Matthew 6:5
Luke 15:3-7
iLLSonChandla
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,732
And1: 846
Joined: Jan 09, 2011

Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#212 » by iLLSonChandla » Sat Jun 29, 2024 5:04 pm

I like Ihart a lot, one of the few players I'll still root for if he left for a bag
PrecociousNeoph wrote: dolan ruins every picture he's in.
User avatar
Jalen Bluntson
RealGM
Posts: 25,621
And1: 27,345
Joined: Nov 07, 2012
       

Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#213 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sat Jun 29, 2024 5:21 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
Read on Twitter


That was he moment Precious turned the corner for me. Loved seeing that emotion from him and his game seemed to settle down for him.
:beer: RIP mags
User avatar
Galou
Pro Prospect
Posts: 976
And1: 749
Joined: Dec 16, 2017
Location: Brooklyn
 

Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#214 » by Galou » Sat Jun 29, 2024 6:55 pm

sol537 wrote:I’m going to continue to believe that iHart will stay and immaculate vibes will continue.

:nod: yep
The ones with these types if comments are usually right.
Excellent simple and prophetic post
Good form 8-)
F$+*k the Nets.
User avatar
thebuzzardman
RealGM
Posts: 82,638
And1: 96,703
Joined: Jun 24, 2006
Location: Villanovknicks

Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#215 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Jun 29, 2024 7:13 pm

TrueWarrior wrote:People in NYC sh*t on OKC and ORL but those are fine cities to live in too, especially if you’re rich and on the road half the year. Can also have houses in other places for the offseason. If Isaiah leaves for a bunch more money (these states have lower taxes too), and maybe more offensive freedom, I wouldn’t blame the guy.

Isaiah and his agent knew what they were doing when he only signed a 2 year deal instead of 3. This was the consequence if he broke out, as we dont have his full bird rights. Maybe he wasnt expecting this, but he should have taken the extra year. There’s a possibility he never truly intended to stay.

We’ll find out tomorrow. Not picking a big in the 1st/early 2nd gives some confidence, but if Isaiah leaves we wouldn’t replace him with a rookie anyway. Either got something else spicy lined up or we’ll go after Goga or whoever.


Dude, c'mon :D

Image

Image
Image
User avatar
APE
Junior
Posts: 431
And1: 579
Joined: May 25, 2015
         

Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#216 » by APE » Sat Jun 29, 2024 7:27 pm

Take less and have Thibs run him to the ground or get the bag from a state with less taxes. Tough call.
User avatar
Capn'O
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 91,217
And1: 111,771
Joined: Dec 16, 2005
Location: Bone Goal
 

Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#217 » by Capn'O » Sat Jun 29, 2024 7:35 pm

He obviously likes the team and city but if there's an offer he can't refuse, he won't.

OKC and Orlando are going to have to pay their main guys soon enough so there might not be something too much bigger than what we offer.
BAF Clippers

PG: Brunson/Coleworld
SG: CJ/Merrill
SF: Black/Thybulle
PF: Kuminga/Kenrich Williams
C: Looney/Sharpe

Hugo | DWade | Craig Porter | Dadiet | Minott


:beer:
User avatar
TrueWarrior
RealGM
Posts: 19,103
And1: 8,519
Joined: Jul 26, 2004
Location: Behind You

Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#218 » by TrueWarrior » Sat Jun 29, 2024 7:39 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
TrueWarrior wrote:People in NYC sh*t on OKC and ORL but those are fine cities to live in too, especially if you’re rich and on the road half the year. Can also have houses in other places for the offseason. If Isaiah leaves for a bunch more money (these states have lower taxes too), and maybe more offensive freedom, I wouldn’t blame the guy.

Isaiah and his agent knew what they were doing when he only signed a 2 year deal instead of 3. This was the consequence if he broke out, as we dont have his full bird rights. Maybe he wasnt expecting this, but he should have taken the extra year. There’s a possibility he never truly intended to stay.

We’ll find out tomorrow. Not picking a big in the 1st/early 2nd gives some confidence, but if Isaiah leaves we wouldn’t replace him with a rookie anyway. Either got something else spicy lined up or we’ll go after Goga or whoever.


Dude, c'mon :D

Image

Image


Lol.

OKC doesnt look so bad:

Image

Obviously it’s smaller than NYC, but let’s not pretend that New York doesnt have its share of issues. I see em every day. More crime and homeless. Higher taxes and everything just being more expensive in general. It’s a great city mostly, but isnt for everyone.

Isaiah can still have a place in NYC too, and will be traveling 8 months a year. Im sure he’s having a hard time deciding. Being part of the first Knick title in 50+ years would be legendary clearly. He’d be able to make the money up in the long run here, but cant blame him if he takes the guaranteed cash.

Also didn’t you move to Texas?
User avatar
thebuzzardman
RealGM
Posts: 82,638
And1: 96,703
Joined: Jun 24, 2006
Location: Villanovknicks

Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#219 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:08 pm

TrueWarrior wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
TrueWarrior wrote:People in NYC sh*t on OKC and ORL but those are fine cities to live in too, especially if you’re rich and on the road half the year. Can also have houses in other places for the offseason. If Isaiah leaves for a bunch more money (these states have lower taxes too), and maybe more offensive freedom, I wouldn’t blame the guy.

Isaiah and his agent knew what they were doing when he only signed a 2 year deal instead of 3. This was the consequence if he broke out, as we dont have his full bird rights. Maybe he wasnt expecting this, but he should have taken the extra year. There’s a possibility he never truly intended to stay.

We’ll find out tomorrow. Not picking a big in the 1st/early 2nd gives some confidence, but if Isaiah leaves we wouldn’t replace him with a rookie anyway. Either got something else spicy lined up or we’ll go after Goga or whoever.


Dude, c'mon :D

Image

Image


Lol.

OKC doesnt look so bad:

Image

Obviously it’s smaller than NYC, but let’s not pretend that New York doesnt have its share of issues. I see em every day. More crime and homeless. Higher taxes and everything just being more expensive in general. It’s a great city mostly, but isnt for everyone.

Isaiah can still have a place in NYC too, and will be traveling 8 months a year. Im sure he’s having a hard time deciding. Being part of the first Knick title in 50+ years would be legendary clearly. He’d be able to make the money up in the long run here, but cant blame him if he takes the guaranteed cash.

Also didn’t you move to Texas?

:D
Yes. lol.
Image
User avatar
Meat
Head Coach
Posts: 7,318
And1: 5,091
Joined: Jun 30, 2013
     

Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#220 » by Meat » Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:21 pm

Context wrote:No news is good news…
$65 million is the same as $100 million…
But $65 million+plus a chip and happiness at work with no regrets is NOT the same as $100 in ORL and definitely not OKC!


That’s some insane fan math, also ain’t like okc ain’t as close as we are to a chip

Return to New York Knicks