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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - post Mikal trade 

Post#461 » by stuporman » Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:56 pm

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WargamesX wrote:Its mostly IHarts passing that would be missed, plus the occasional outside shot.

Its enough that the knicks are at least putting themselves in the position to get him back if he is open to it.


Look at Huk's scouting vids, it's almost as if he was brought up in the exact same German big man philosophy so has the same big man skills from that training in Europe...oh wait, he was!

The guy passes, finishes around the basket, can handle the ball a little, has a similar push shot while also possessing the rebounding and basket protection Thibs requires.

He's also not a teenager, he's a 22 year old man and has a grown ass man's body, 7foot 245lbs with the athleticism and agility that is exactly what translate to the NBA.


You think he's an immediate impact player or a couple years away?


For the limited role that Thibs asks of his centers he can perform from day one at least off the bench but it might take him a couple years to grow into a consistent performer of it. He's been a pro for years, this isn't a college kid, he's more acclimated to being a professional than most draftees.

Look at how many rookie rim runners we see come into the league and make an impact with limited roles, some of these kids are younger and greener than Huk is. I'm not saying it will happen but I'm also saying I wouldn't be surprised if by new years we are praising Rose for getting him.
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Post#463 » by Knick4Real » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:01 am

The FA theme this year: HURRY UP AND WAIT!

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Post#464 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:06 am

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Look at Huk's scouting vids, it's almost as if he was brought up in the exact same German big man philosophy so has the same big man skills from that training in Europe...oh wait, he was!

The guy passes, finishes around the basket, can handle the ball a little, has a similar push shot while also possessing the rebounding and basket protection Thibs requires.

He's also not a teenager, he's a 22 year old man and has a grown ass man's body, 7foot 245lbs with the athleticism and agility that is exactly what translate to the NBA.


You think he's an immediate impact player or a couple years away?


For the limited role that Thibs asks of his centers he can perform from day one at least off the bench but it might take him a couple years to grow into a consistent performer of it. He's been a pro for years, this isn't a college kid, he's more acclimated to being a professional than most draftees.

Look at how many rookie rim runners we see come into the league and make an impact with limited roles, some of these kids are younger and greener than Huk is. I'm not saying it will happen but I'm also saying I wouldn't be surprised if by new years we are praising Rose for getting him.


You seem pretty high on the 58th pick. I cannot wait to see him play.
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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - post Mikal trade 

Post#465 » by WargamesX » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:07 am

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Jalen Bluntson wrote:
stuporman wrote:
Look at Huk's scouting vids, it's almost as if he was brought up in the exact same German big man philosophy so has the same big man skills from that training in Europe...oh wait, he was!

The guy passes, finishes around the basket, can handle the ball a little, has a similar push shot while also possessing the rebounding and basket protection Thibs requires.

He's also not a teenager, he's a 22 year old man and has a grown ass man's body, 7foot 245lbs with the athleticism and agility that is exactly what translate to the NBA.


You think he's an immediate impact player or a couple years away?


For the limited role that Thibs asks of his centers he can perform from day one at least off the bench but it might take him a couple years to grow into a consistent performer of it. He's been a pro for years, this isn't a college kid, he's more acclimated to being a professional than most draftees.

Look at how many rookie rim runners we see come into the league and make an impact with limited roles, some of these kids are younger and greener than Huk is. I'm not saying it will happen but I'm also saying I wouldn't be surprised if by new years we are praising Rose for getting him.


I think they would get a FA big. Its not ideal but the tax payer MLE is also a available due to the knicks getting themselves into the 2nd apron. I just can't see them going into the season relying on a guy they took 58.
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Post#466 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:09 am

Knick4Real wrote:The FA theme this year: HURRY UP AND WAIT!

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It has been 2 hours. :lol:
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Post#467 » by sol537 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:11 am

If iHart leaves, we probably pivot to Goga for the MLE (or Valencunis) and also reach a deal with Precious. 3 years $18m or something.

Mitch and Goga split time (24m each) and then Precious is the insurance big like this past season. Not a terrible situation because we can try to upgrade in season via trade, if necessary.
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Post#468 » by stuporman » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:19 am

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You think he's an immediate impact player or a couple years away?


For the limited role that Thibs asks of his centers he can perform from day one at least off the bench but it might take him a couple years to grow into a consistent performer of it. He's been a pro for years, this isn't a college kid, he's more acclimated to being a professional than most draftees.

Look at how many rookie rim runners we see come into the league and make an impact with limited roles, some of these kids are younger and greener than Huk is. I'm not saying it will happen but I'm also saying I wouldn't be surprised if by new years we are praising Rose for getting him.


You seem pretty high on the 58th pick. I cannot wait to see him play.


When you simply say 'pretty high on the 58th pick' you strip away every nuance and logical reason I gave to why and what I say but instead dumb it down to empty of any context so please excuse me if I don't take your critique as serious.

I was someone who also high on Mitch before his draft with people loling at me over it and he came in right away making an impact off the bench. If it weren't for his injury history my assessment of his impact short and long term was pretty accurate.

I think this guy has the experience, body, athleticism and skill set to be a bench big as a rookie but I also don't want to rely on any rookie in a season with the type of expectations we have for the team. Knicks better have other plans for options because Mitch will miss time as usual.
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Post#469 » by stuporman » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:22 am

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Jalen Bluntson wrote:
You think he's an immediate impact player or a couple years away?


For the limited role that Thibs asks of his centers he can perform from day one at least off the bench but it might take him a couple years to grow into a consistent performer of it. He's been a pro for years, this isn't a college kid, he's more acclimated to being a professional than most draftees.

Look at how many rookie rim runners we see come into the league and make an impact with limited roles, some of these kids are younger and greener than Huk is. I'm not saying it will happen but I'm also saying I wouldn't be surprised if by new years we are praising Rose for getting him.


I think they would get a FA big. Its not ideal but the tax payer MLE is also a available due to the knicks getting themselves into the 2nd apron. I just can't see them going into the season relying on a guy they took 58.


If they lose iHart I too hope they have other options other than a rookie but if there was a guy that had the right make up to have an impact as a bench big I can say it's him.

Watch his video and decide for yourself what he has to offer and if you think it can translate, if you have an eye for talent let that eye guide you.
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Post#470 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:27 am

stuporman wrote:
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For the limited role that Thibs asks of his centers he can perform from day one at least off the bench but it might take him a couple years to grow into a consistent performer of it. He's been a pro for years, this isn't a college kid, he's more acclimated to being a professional than most draftees.

Look at how many rookie rim runners we see come into the league and make an impact with limited roles, some of these kids are younger and greener than Huk is. I'm not saying it will happen but I'm also saying I wouldn't be surprised if by new years we are praising Rose for getting him.


You seem pretty high on the 58th pick. I cannot wait to see him play.


When you simply say 'pretty high on the 58th pick' you strip away every nuance and logical reason I gave to why and what I say but instead dumb it down to empty of any context so please excuse me if I don't take your critique as serious.

I was someone who also high on Mitch before his draft with people loling at me over it and he came in right away making an impact off the bench. If it weren't for his injury history my assessment of his impact short and long term was pretty accurate.

I think this guy has the experience, body, athleticism and skill set to be a bench big as a rookie but I also don't want to rely on any rookie in a season with the type of expectations we have for the team. Knicks better have other plans for options because Mitch will miss time as usual.


Not a criticism in any way. I haven't looked into this kid at all but heard some solid things about him. You seem to be down with this kid so, I can't wait to see the kid play. I know we beefed for a second over some dumb **** but, I respect your take on things most of the time.
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Post#473 » by Wildcat » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:44 am

I still can't wrap my mind around PG and this 4th year nonsense.
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Post#474 » by Knicksrule2k4 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:45 am

Center options coming off the board. Don’t let us down Ihart lol
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Post#475 » by stuporman » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:45 am

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You seem pretty high on the 58th pick. I cannot wait to see him play.


When you simply say 'pretty high on the 58th pick' you strip away every nuance and logical reason I gave to why and what I say but instead dumb it down to empty of any context so please excuse me if I don't take your critique as serious.

I was someone who also high on Mitch before his draft with people loling at me over it and he came in right away making an impact off the bench. If it weren't for his injury history my assessment of his impact short and long term was pretty accurate.

I think this guy has the experience, body, athleticism and skill set to be a bench big as a rookie but I also don't want to rely on any rookie in a season with the type of expectations we have for the team. Knicks better have other plans for options because Mitch will miss time as usual.


Not a criticism in any way. I haven't looked into this kid at all but heard some solid things about him. You seem to be down with this kid so, I can't wait to see the kid play. I know we beefed for a second over some dumb **** but, I respect your take on things most of the time.


I didn't do much research before the draft so I won't suggest I had insight before that but after he was picked I did a deep dive watching everything I could to get an clear assessment and came away impressed with what I saw. He's coming in with the experience, body, athleticism and skills to do it.

If the role was more complicated or he showed signs of not being ready in some way I probably would lean to being more hesitant to say what I have. Although, in light of how well bigs perform under Thibs with his limited role requirements I have more optimism he can do it off the bench.
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Post#476 » by Wildcat » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:47 am

Knicksrule2k4 wrote:Center options coming off the board. Don’t let us down Ihart lol


All the centers who signed so far were bad fits. Goga seems to be the only legit interest.
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Post#477 » by newyorker4ever » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:49 am

Chris Paul signing a 1 year $11 mil deal with the Spurs.
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Post#478 » by Bob Ross » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:49 am

I bet they already know what's up with ihart and that he's coming back but need to wait for the Bridges trade to go through
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Post#479 » by newyorker4ever » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:50 am

Wildcat wrote:
Knicksrule2k4 wrote:Center options coming off the board. Don’t let us down Ihart lol


All the centers who signed so far were bad fits. Goga seems to be the only legit interest.


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Post#480 » by BrOnXKing1 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:56 am

Wildcat wrote:I still can't wrap my mind around PG and this 4th year nonsense.


It makes no sense to me either. They gonna give 3/150 million, and he from California. If hes still good in 3yrs, he will get another big contract.

The only sense i can make of it is he feels he has a better chance to win with Embid and Maxey

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