2024-25 Regular Season

[JonFromVA]

All these moves happening and we are just sitting on the sidelines. Someone make me feel better because if we run it back with the same group we are getting smoked in the first round

I'm not sure I can make you feel better considering we just saw how the Spurs and the Pels addressed their respective PG problems by giving up way less what we'd want for Darius Garland. Maybe the Spurs aren't done, but because of how our season ended - teams are just trying to rip us off. Jarrett Allen would look nice on the Pelicans, but they want to move Ingram and Ingram wants a max which is problematic for us. Not to mention, the hole moving Allen would create in our front court.

So, unless Koby can find just the right deal our best bet may be to let Atkinson show what he can do with the roster. It's a big ask, but if Garland simply manages to stay healthy his value will shoot up. Atkinson playing a deeper bench should help.

JBB has managed something really profound in his tenure, somehow he's won a lot of games, built a pretty decent offense and defense, and yet nobody values the players who've helped make that happen.

Even when people talk about Mitchell, they're like he's a fine scorer, but he's going to burn out soon, and he's too ball dominant, too small, can't win with him, blah blah. Meanwhile Don recorded his 3rd playoff 50+ pt game playing on a bum knee which just so happens to be 3rd all time. When only Jordan and Wilt are ahead of you in a playoff scoring statistic ... that's pretty special.

[JujitsuFlip]

All these moves happening and we are just sitting on the sidelines. Someone make me feel better because if we run it back with the same group we are getting smoked in the first round

I'm not sure I can make you feel better considering we just saw how the Spurs and the Pels addressed their respective PG problems by giving up way less what we'd want for Darius Garland. Maybe the Spurs aren't done, but because of how our season ended - teams are just trying to rip us off. Jarrett Allen would look nice on the Pelicans, but they want to move Ingram and Ingram wants a max which is problematic for us. Not to mention, the hole moving Allen would create in our front court.

So, unless Koby can find just the right deal our best bet may be to let Atkinson show what he can do with the roster. It's a big ask, but if Garland simply manages to stay healthy his value will shoot up. Atkinson playing a deeper bench should help.

JBB has managed something really profound in his tenure, somehow he's won a lot of games, built a pretty decent offense and defense, and yet nobody values the players who've helped make that happen.

Even when people talk about Mitchell, they're like he's a fine scorer, but he's going to burn out soon, and he's too ball dominant, too small, can't win with him, blah blah. Meanwhile Don recorded his 3rd playoff 50+ pt game playing on a bum knee which just so happens to be 3rd all time. When only Jordan and Wilt are ahead of you in a playoff scoring statistic ... that's pretty special.

Sure but it also needs to be parlayed into a deeper playoff run than the 2nd round.

[Niko23]

I would be willing to take a run at Zach LaVine at this point!!

[JujitsuFlip]

I would be willing to take a run at Zach LaVine at this point!!

Heck no, that guy has an awful contract and just had foot surgery. In 10 years he has played in exactly 4 playoff games, guy is the definition of a losing player.

[JujitsuFlip]

Less than 24 hours into free agency and Koby thinks the best use of time is introducing the new head coach lmao

How about extending your own players and maybe signing an external free agent? lol

[JonFromVA]

All these moves happening and we are just sitting on the sidelines. Someone make me feel better because if we run it back with the same group we are getting smoked in the first round

I'm not sure I can make you feel better considering we just saw how the Spurs and the Pels addressed their respective PG problems by giving up way less what we'd want for Darius Garland. Maybe the Spurs aren't done, but because of how our season ended - teams are just trying to rip us off. Jarrett Allen would look nice on the Pelicans, but they want to move Ingram and Ingram wants a max which is problematic for us. Not to mention, the hole moving Allen would create in our front court.

So, unless Koby can find just the right deal our best bet may be to let Atkinson show what he can do with the roster. It's a big ask, but if Garland simply manages to stay healthy his value will shoot up. Atkinson playing a deeper bench should help.

JBB has managed something really profound in his tenure, somehow he's won a lot of games, built a pretty decent offense and defense, and yet nobody values the players who've helped make that happen.

Even when people talk about Mitchell, they're like he's a fine scorer, but he's going to burn out soon, and he's too ball dominant, too small, can't win with him, blah blah. Meanwhile Don recorded his 3rd playoff 50+ pt game playing on a bum knee which just so happens to be 3rd all time. When only Jordan and Wilt are ahead of you in a playoff scoring statistic ... that's pretty special.

Sure but it also needs to be parlayed into a deeper playoff run than the 2nd round.

Mitchell would have to stay healthy too for that to happen. Like I keep pointing out, he's up to 4 years straight dealing with significant injuries in the playoffs.

Consider, we don't hear this sort of crap about Jalen Brunson even though he couldn't drag the Knicks past the Pacers. People understand he was hurt and his team was decimated. Can we pin that on JBB too and his desire to leak as little about his player's condition as possible? People want Jarrett Allen traded because he wouldn't play with bruised ribs, but not a peep about OG Anunoby resting a hamstring injury?

Don suffered a hamstring injury in game 5 of the 2022 playoffs and then turned around and played 39 minutes in the elimination game 6.

[JujitsuFlip]

Kenny said a lot of good stuff in the presser.

Quicker pace, more space, going 5 out. Need to have the ball in Mobley's hands more. He used Dray and Looney in Golden State who neither are really shooters so he thinks Allen and Mobley can work. He sees lots of growth for Mobley and Mitchell. He loves Garland's game and can grow. Believes in developing the bench, playing a lot of guys.

He said all the right things.

I didn't realize he is currently help coach team France.

[JujitsuFlip]

I'm not sure I can make you feel better considering we just saw how the Spurs and the Pels addressed their respective PG problems by giving up way less what we'd want for Darius Garland. Maybe the Spurs aren't done, but because of how our season ended - teams are just trying to rip us off. Jarrett Allen would look nice on the Pelicans, but they want to move Ingram and Ingram wants a max which is problematic for us. Not to mention, the hole moving Allen would create in our front court.

So, unless Koby can find just the right deal our best bet may be to let Atkinson show what he can do with the roster. It's a big ask, but if Garland simply manages to stay healthy his value will shoot up. Atkinson playing a deeper bench should help.

JBB has managed something really profound in his tenure, somehow he's won a lot of games, built a pretty decent offense and defense, and yet nobody values the players who've helped make that happen.

Even when people talk about Mitchell, they're like he's a fine scorer, but he's going to burn out soon, and he's too ball dominant, too small, can't win with him, blah blah. Meanwhile Don recorded his 3rd playoff 50+ pt game playing on a bum knee which just so happens to be 3rd all time. When only Jordan and Wilt are ahead of you in a playoff scoring statistic ... that's pretty special.

Sure but it also needs to be parlayed into a deeper playoff run than the 2nd round.

Mitchell would have to stay healthy too for that to happen. Like I keep pointing out, he's up to 4 years straight dealing with significant injuries in the playoffs.

Consider, we don't hear this sort of crap about Jalen Brunson even though he couldn't drag the Knicks past the Pacers. People understand he was hurt and his team was decimated. Can we pin that on JBB too and his desire to leak as little about his player's condition as possible? People want Jarrett Allen traded because he wouldn't play with bruised ribs, but not a peep about OG Anunoby resting a hamstring injury?

Don suffered a hamstring injury in game 5 of the 2022 playoffs and then turned around and played 39 minutes in the elimination game 6.

Brunson has been to a conference finals though, Mitchell has never been able to get over that hump.

And if he continues to refuse to extend, which seems to be the case for the 2nd summer in a row, i am not sure he shouldn't look in the mirror.

[KuruptedCav]

I would be willing to take a run at Zach LaVine at this point!!

Who goes out in that deal that isn’t more valuable than LaVine?


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[jbk1234]

I would be willing to take a run at Zach LaVine at this point!!

Absolutely not. I'll turn this car around and no one will get any ice cream.

[ijspeelman]

I’d love Damion Lee on the vet min

Just to throw that out there lol

Gross, why? lol

You're a numbers guy, so i assume something about his advanced stats but on the surface, no way.

Its basically off-ball movement, shooting, and respectable defense. He's a very cheap contract and fills a niche if we allow Okoro to go. We've wanted Royce O'Neale for awhile as an Okoro replacement and he's basically cheaper Royce

Shoots at Dean Wade volume. 43% corner three point shooter last three years he played (~43% career as well). 42% wide open three point shooter last threes years he played.

[jbk1234]

Sure but it also needs to be parlayed into a deeper playoff run than the 2nd round.

Mitchell would have to stay healthy too for that to happen. Like I keep pointing out, he's up to 4 years straight dealing with significant injuries in the playoffs.

Consider, we don't hear this sort of crap about Jalen Brunson even though he couldn't drag the Knicks past the Pacers. People understand he was hurt and his team was decimated. Can we pin that on JBB too and his desire to leak as little about his player's condition as possible? People want Jarrett Allen traded because he wouldn't play with bruised ribs, but not a peep about OG Anunoby resting a hamstring injury?

Don suffered a hamstring injury in game 5 of the 2022 playoffs and then turned around and played 39 minutes in the elimination game 6.

Brunson has been to a conference finals though, Mitchell has never been able to get over that hump.

And if he continues to refuse to extend, which seems to be the case for the 2nd summer in a row, i am not sure he shouldn't look in the mirror.

Pretty sure that Luka guy that Brunson played with had more to do with the Mavs getting to the Conference Finals.

[jbk1234]

Unlike Westbrook, I would be interested in CP3 as a backup PG. Batum is the guy I'd want the most. Neither player will be back with their former team.

The rumor last season was Batum was retiring after the Olympics but it does seem like he has 1 more season in him.

Him or CP3 should be cheap, in theory.

Edit: CP3 to the Spurs

National pundits are already speculating that CP3 could be ideal filler in a Garland trade later this season.

[JujitsuFlip]

Unlike Westbrook, I would be interested in CP3 as a backup PG. Batum is the guy I'd want the most. Neither player will be back with their former team.

The rumor last season was Batum was retiring after the Olympics but it does seem like he has 1 more season in him.

Him or CP3 should be cheap, in theory.

Edit: CP3 to the Spurs

National pundits are already speculating that CP3 could be ideal filler in a Garland trade later this season.

Isn't he like 40?

[jbk1234]

The rumor last season was Batum was retiring after the Olympics but it does seem like he has 1 more season in him.

Him or CP3 should be cheap, in theory.

Edit: CP3 to the Spurs

National pundits are already speculating that CP3 could be ideal filler in a Garland trade later this season.

Isn't he like 40?

39, but they mean as an expiring add on to another player. No one is starting him in the playoffs, but I'm not making that trade without Vassell coming back, and if Atkinson manages to get more synergy out of Mitchell and Garland, I'm not making it at all.

[JujitsuFlip]

Mitchell would have to stay healthy too for that to happen. Like I keep pointing out, he's up to 4 years straight dealing with significant injuries in the playoffs.

Consider, we don't hear this sort of crap about Jalen Brunson even though he couldn't drag the Knicks past the Pacers. People understand he was hurt and his team was decimated. Can we pin that on JBB too and his desire to leak as little about his player's condition as possible? People want Jarrett Allen traded because he wouldn't play with bruised ribs, but not a peep about OG Anunoby resting a hamstring injury?

Don suffered a hamstring injury in game 5 of the 2022 playoffs and then turned around and played 39 minutes in the elimination game 6.

Brunson has been to a conference finals though, Mitchell has never been able to get over that hump.

And if he continues to refuse to extend, which seems to be the case for the 2nd summer in a row, i am not sure he shouldn't look in the mirror.

Pretty sure that Luka guy that Brunson played with had more to do with the Mavs getting to the Conference Finals.

Luka missed the first 3 games in round 1.

In the 2nd round it was a Luka carry job for sure.

Either way, Mitchell needs to clear that hurdle, he's had 7 stabs at it.

[jbk1234]

Best case scenario for Ingram at this point, is a trade to the Kings right now and it's anyone's guess as to whether they'll offer him a max extension.

Maybe he comes around to the idea of agreeing to an extend and trade to Cleveland in the $35-40M range.

Also, there's still no word on a Murphy extension.

[JujitsuFlip]

National pundits are already speculating that CP3 could be ideal filler in a Garland trade later this season.

Isn't he like 40?

39, but they mean as an expiring add on to another player. No one is starting him in the playoffs, but I'm not making that trade without Vassell coming back, and if Atkinson manages to get more synergy out of Mitchell and Garland, I'm not making it at all.

Yeah, from the presser, Kenny seems sold on the core 4 and that is why Koby was sold on him.

[jbk1234]

Less than 24 hours into free agency and Koby thinks the best use of time is introducing the new head coach lmao

How about extending your own players and maybe signing an external free agent? lol

We won't know how much, if any, cap space we have until the Okoro situation is resolved.

[jbk1234]

Isn't he like 40?

39, but they mean as an expiring add on to another player. No one is starting him in the playoffs, but I'm not making that trade without Vassell coming back, and if Atkinson manages to get more synergy out of Mitchell and Garland, I'm not making it at all.

Yeah, from the presser, Kenny seems sold on the core 4 and that is why Koby was sold on him.

I'm hopeful. If you think JB struggled in certain areas and another coach could get more offensively out of that core, and I do, then it makes sense to let him try after you let JB go. If you're just going to break up the core, no matter what, then why let JB go?