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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#321 » by jpatrick » Mon Jul 1, 2024 6:52 pm

Neeva wrote:For a older vet i much prefer Nic Batum, he can still be useful in playoff(kind of)


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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#322 » by minimus » Mon Jul 1, 2024 7:10 pm

Neeva wrote:Why did Dallas want Klay? He’s so washed, and for three years…GS was better when he didn’t play.

They want defenders to stay close to Klay to open things for Luka's pick n roll game. Even a bad shooter such as DJJ was good at hitting wide open shots. If Klay can revive his career as C&S big shooter this will be a huge win for DAL.

P.S. I hope Edwards, Towns, Reid, McDaniels, TSJ and Dillingham will study this year playoff and attack Luka, Klay and Kyrie aggressively and relentlessly.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#323 » by NebWolvesFan » Mon Jul 1, 2024 7:12 pm

I liked Batum on this team, but I've read that he loved living in LA. I would still be on board with McDermott, TBJ, Prince, Ingles. This team really needs some type of Kyle replacement. Slowly, teams with cap space and non-MLEs are filling up. I doubt Kyle leaves for a tax-payer MLE (5.2 mil) when he can get 3.3 vet min from Minnesota.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#324 » by minimus » Mon Jul 1, 2024 7:22 pm

Guys, our bench unit for start of regular season is already known:

Reid-NAW-TSJ-Dillingham (Miller-Minott-Garza-Clarke)

I wouldn't look for talent for those 10th, 11th spot in rotation, but rather veteran presence, leadership, mentorship. Joe Ingles fits here as 5-10 mpg guy who's role will be:

- keep speaking, explaining nuances of the game while sitting next to young guys

- get 5 minutes of playing time when Finch needs him on the floor

- run one pick n roll with Rudy

- hit open three, walk back in defense

- deliver hard, smart foul

- troll opponent

- go back to the bench

That's it. If MIN want to develop young players, they should give them more playing time.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#325 » by Mattya » Mon Jul 1, 2024 7:58 pm

If we can get some proven players to play for the minimum next year I would still make the move. It is good to have that insurance in case the rookies struggle.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#326 » by winforlose » Mon Jul 1, 2024 8:03 pm

minimus wrote:Guys, our bench unit for start of regular season is already known:

Reid-NAW-TSJ-Dillingham (Miller-Minott-Garza-Clarke)

I wouldn't look for talent for those 10th, 11th spot in rotation, but rather veteran presence, leadership, mentorship. Joe Ingles fits here as 5-10 mpg guy who's role will be:

- keep speaking, explaining nuances of the game while sitting next to young guys

- get 5 minutes of playing time when Finch needs him on the floor

- run one pick n roll with Rudy

- hit open three, walk back in defense

- deliver hard, smart foul

- troll opponent

- go back to the bench

That's it. If MIN want to develop young players, they should give them more playing time.


Disagree somewhere between mildly and strongly.

The backup SG and PF are settled without doubt. NAW and Naz will play. Beyond that, Karl will continue to split time with Rudy at the 5. In the event of foul trouble questions remain which depend on who else we sign. The backup PG being RD is an assumption which could quickly fall apart if he struggles to start the season. He is also going to be a massive defensive liability to the point where I firmly expect him to be in an Iowa for the year. If we handcuff ourselves to him by not bringing in a legit PG2 we are punting on the year.

Minott, Miller, TSJ, and possibly any free agents we sign will compete for the backup SF minutes vacated by Kyle.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#327 » by TimberKat » Mon Jul 1, 2024 8:15 pm

minimus wrote:
Neeva wrote:Why did Dallas want Klay? He’s so washed, and for three years…GS was better when he didn’t play.

They want defenders to stay close to Klay to open things for Luka's pick n roll game. Even a bad shooter such as DJJ was good at hitting wide open shots. If Klay can revive his career as C&S big shooter this will be a huge win for DAL.

P.S. I hope Edwards, Towns, Reid, McDaniels, TSJ and Dillingham will study this year playoff and attack Luka, Klay and Kyrie aggressively and relentlessly.

I think it's a great move by DAL and makes them a very dangerous.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#328 » by minimus » Mon Jul 1, 2024 8:16 pm

winforlose wrote:
minimus wrote:Guys, our bench unit for start of regular season is already known:

Reid-NAW-TSJ-Dillingham (Miller-Minott-Garza-Clarke)

I wouldn't look for talent for those 10th, 11th spot in rotation, but rather veteran presence, leadership, mentorship. Joe Ingles fits here as 5-10 mpg guy who's role will be:

- keep speaking, explaining nuances of the game while sitting next to young guys

- get 5 minutes of playing time when Finch needs him on the floor

- run one pick n roll with Rudy

- hit open three, walk back in defense

- deliver hard, smart foul

- troll opponent

- go back to the bench

That's it. If MIN want to develop young players, they should give them more playing time.


Disagree somewhere between mildly and strongly.

The backup SG and PF are settled without doubt. NAW and Naz will play. Beyond that, Karl will continue to split time with Rudy at the 5. In the event of foul trouble questions remain which depend on who else we sign. The backup PG being RD is an assumption which could quickly fall apart if he struggles to start the season. He is also going to be a massive defensive liability to the point where I firmly expect him to be in an Iowa for the year. If we handcuff ourselves to him by not bringing in a legit PG2 we are punting on the year.

Minott, Miller, TSJ, and possibly any free agents we sign will compete for the backup SF minutes vacated by Kyle.


Well, I wrote "our bench unit for start of regular season" and almost every season it is story of experimenting new things at the beginning of the regular season, then factors such as injuries, individual progress or struggle change trajectory and hopefully team have a working solution around trade deadline. We have seen many questionable experiments such as:

- Nowell as backup PG
- Milton as backup PG
- NAW as backup PG
- JMac as backup PG
- Anderson as point forward
- two PG lineups (both below 6.2")
- three guard lineups
- three big lineups Gobert-Towns-Reid

That said, I find Reid-NAW-TSJ-Dillingham-Ingles bench unit at least worth to try.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#329 » by Neeva » Mon Jul 1, 2024 8:28 pm

TimberKat wrote:
minimus wrote:
Neeva wrote:Why did Dallas want Klay? He’s so washed, and for three years…GS was better when he didn’t play.

They want defenders to stay close to Klay to open things for Luka's pick n roll game. Even a bad shooter such as DJJ was good at hitting wide open shots. If Klay can revive his career as C&S big shooter this will be a huge win for DAL.

P.S. I hope Edwards, Towns, Reid, McDaniels, TSJ and Dillingham will study this year playoff and attack Luka, Klay and Kyrie aggressively and relentlessly.

I think it's a great move by DAL and makes them a very dangerous.


Nope Klay is over the hill, some of you are impressed by points per game and overlook the horrible defense, bad turnovers and the bad attitude, etc , there is a reason golden state cut the cord. Dallas will regret this, but that’s fine with me.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#330 » by KGdaBom » Mon Jul 1, 2024 8:37 pm

jpatrick wrote:
Neeva wrote:For a older vet i much prefer Nic Batum, he can still be useful in playoff(kind of)


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He didn't retire. Wow.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#331 » by KGdaBom » Mon Jul 1, 2024 8:38 pm

Neeva wrote:
TimberKat wrote:
minimus wrote:They want defenders to stay close to Klay to open things for Luka's pick n roll game. Even a bad shooter such as DJJ was good at hitting wide open shots. If Klay can revive his career as C&S big shooter this will be a huge win for DAL.

P.S. I hope Edwards, Towns, Reid, McDaniels, TSJ and Dillingham will study this year playoff and attack Luka, Klay and Kyrie aggressively and relentlessly.

I think it's a great move by DAL and makes them a very dangerous.


Nope Klay is over the hill, some of you are impressed by points per game and overlook the horrible defense, bad turnovers and the bad attitude, etc , there is a reason golden state cut the cord. Dallas will regret this, but that’s fine with me.

100% agreement.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#332 » by KGdaBom » Mon Jul 1, 2024 8:41 pm

winforlose wrote:
minimus wrote:Guys, our bench unit for start of regular season is already known:

Reid-NAW-TSJ-Dillingham (Miller-Minott-Garza-Clarke)

I wouldn't look for talent for those 10th, 11th spot in rotation, but rather veteran presence, leadership, mentorship. Joe Ingles fits here as 5-10 mpg guy who's role will be:

- keep speaking, explaining nuances of the game while sitting next to young guys

- get 5 minutes of playing time when Finch needs him on the floor

- run one pick n roll with Rudy

- hit open three, walk back in defense

- deliver hard, smart foul

- troll opponent

- go back to the bench

That's it. If MIN want to develop young players, they should give them more playing time.


Disagree somewhere between mildly and strongly.

The backup SG and PF are settled without doubt. NAW and Naz will play. Beyond that, Karl will continue to split time with Rudy at the 5. In the event of foul trouble questions remain which depend on who else we sign. The backup PG being RD is an assumption which could quickly fall apart if he struggles to start the season. He is also going to be a massive defensive liability to the point where [b]I firmly expect him to be in an Iowa for the year[/b]. If we handcuff ourselves to him by not bringing in a legit PG2 we are punting on the year.

Minott, Miller, TSJ, and possibly any free agents we sign will compete for the backup SF minutes vacated by Kyle.

If he struggles we will stick with him while he works it out. Once again I say stop the nonsense about Dilly in Iowa. It's not going to happen. We will sign a PG, but for the PG3 not 2. Maybe Morris if he would take the vet Minimum.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#333 » by BlacJacMac » Mon Jul 1, 2024 8:42 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
jpatrick wrote:
Neeva wrote:For a older vet i much prefer Nic Batum, he can still be useful in playoff(kind of)


Read on Twitter
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He didn't retire. Wow.


I don't think anyone expected him to.

The real shocker will be the year he eventually follows through with it...
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#334 » by winforlose » Mon Jul 1, 2024 8:52 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
winforlose wrote:
minimus wrote:Guys, our bench unit for start of regular season is already known:

Reid-NAW-TSJ-Dillingham (Miller-Minott-Garza-Clarke)

I wouldn't look for talent for those 10th, 11th spot in rotation, but rather veteran presence, leadership, mentorship. Joe Ingles fits here as 5-10 mpg guy who's role will be:

- keep speaking, explaining nuances of the game while sitting next to young guys

- get 5 minutes of playing time when Finch needs him on the floor

- run one pick n roll with Rudy

- hit open three, walk back in defense

- deliver hard, smart foul

- troll opponent

- go back to the bench

That's it. If MIN want to develop young players, they should give them more playing time.


Disagree somewhere between mildly and strongly.

The backup SG and PF are settled without doubt. NAW and Naz will play. Beyond that, Karl will continue to split time with Rudy at the 5. In the event of foul trouble questions remain which depend on who else we sign. The backup PG being RD is an assumption which could quickly fall apart if he struggles to start the season. He is also going to be a massive defensive liability to the point where [b]I firmly expect him to be in an Iowa for the year[/b]. If we handcuff ourselves to him by not bringing in a legit PG2 we are punting on the year.

Minott, Miller, TSJ, and possibly any free agents we sign will compete for the backup SF minutes vacated by Kyle.

If he struggles we will stick with him while he works it out. Once again I say stop the nonsense about Dilly in Iowa. It's not going to happen. We will sign a PG, but for the PG3 not 2. Maybe Morris if he would take the vet Minimum.


Dude we have two years at most and then **** hits the fan. You don’t waste one trying to bring along a rookie who isn’t ready. That is how you murder his confidence and turn him into Jarrett Culver. If RD hits the ground running and looks like a stud, then you let him out of the barn. If not, you fatten him up with the G league competition and see if he cannot do better next year.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#335 » by KGdaBom » Mon Jul 1, 2024 9:04 pm

winforlose wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
winforlose wrote:
Disagree somewhere between mildly and strongly.

The backup SG and PF are settled without doubt. NAW and Naz will play. Beyond that, Karl will continue to split time with Rudy at the 5. In the event of foul trouble questions remain which depend on who else we sign. The backup PG being RD is an assumption which could quickly fall apart if he struggles to start the season. He is also going to be a massive defensive liability to the point where [b]I firmly expect him to be in an Iowa for the year[/b]. If we handcuff ourselves to him by not bringing in a legit PG2 we are punting on the year.

Minott, Miller, TSJ, and possibly any free agents we sign will compete for the backup SF minutes vacated by Kyle.

If he struggles we will stick with him while he works it out. Once again I say stop the nonsense about Dilly in Iowa. It's not going to happen. We will sign a PG, but for the PG3 not 2. Maybe Morris if he would take the vet Minimum.


Dude we have two years at most and then **** hits the fan. You don’t waste one trying to bring along a rookie who isn’t ready. That is how you murder his confidence and turn him into Jarrett Culver. If RD hits the ground running and looks like a stud, then you let him out of the barn. If not, you fatten him up with the G league competition and see if he cannot do better next year.

I doubt he even spends a single day in Iowa. Certainly not more than a week or two. At the end of the season we will see who is more correct.
Sending him to the G League is far more likely to murder his confidence than help it. Finch needs to show he believes in him and won't demote him the first time something goes wrong.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#336 » by TimberKat » Tue Jul 2, 2024 3:56 am

KGdaBom wrote:
Neeva wrote:
TimberKat wrote:I think it's a great move by DAL and makes them a very dangerous.


Nope Klay is over the hill, some of you are impressed by points per game and overlook the horrible defense, bad turnovers and the bad attitude, etc , there is a reason golden state cut the cord. Dallas will regret this, but that’s fine with me.

100% agreement.

He is not the 1st or 2nd option, just need to stand around and be Kyle Korver, wait for the open shoot. Better than all the shooters DAL had last year.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#337 » by TimberKat » Tue Jul 2, 2024 3:59 am

PG going to 76er will drop Clippers down to play-in.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#338 » by Neeva » Tue Jul 2, 2024 4:17 am

That George/SGA trade by the clippers turned out to be a complete and total failure.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#339 » by KGdaBom » Tue Jul 2, 2024 4:49 am

TimberKat wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Neeva wrote:
Nope Klay is over the hill, some of you are impressed by points per game and overlook the horrible defense, bad turnovers and the bad attitude, etc , there is a reason golden state cut the cord. Dallas will regret this, but that’s fine with me.

100% agreement.

He is not the 1st or 2nd option, just need to stand around and be Kyle Korver, wait for the open shoot. Better than all the shooters DAL had last year.[/quote]
Maybe. He's a year older and IMO fading fast.
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Re: 2024 Free Agency 

Post#340 » by winforlose » Tue Jul 2, 2024 4:56 am

TimberKat wrote:PG going to 76er will drop Clippers down to play-in.


Only if KL stays healthy. If he doesn’t I can seem them easily falling to 11 or 12. Remember that both Memphis and Houston will be looking to occupy at least a play in spot. Heck, even the Spurs might give the Clippers a run for their money if KL is out for any length of time (something that happens most years if not every year.)

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