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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - post Mikal trade 

Post#641 » by lloydj » Mon Jul 1, 2024 7:03 pm

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lloydj wrote:Timberwolves Trade: Naz Reid

Knicks Trade: Sims and Deuce.


I'm down but doubt the Jewish fans would accept him.


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Post#642 » by Jeffrey » Mon Jul 1, 2024 7:04 pm

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lloydj wrote:Timberwolves Trade: Nazi Reid

Knicks Trade: Sims, Diakite (Five 2nd rounders) and Cash



:lol:


Ask yourself, would we trade Josh for that type of package? No, so why would the Wolves do that for their 6th man that can also start.


Timberwolves is over the second apron team and need relief.


Why do they need relief? the 2nd apron is not a hard cap. If you're over it, it restricts you to do a lot of things but that doesn't mean you have to go below it.

He is a 6 MOY winner at a ridiculous cheap contract. He is a premium 3 & D guy, he is probably one of the most untouchable players in the league. He will never get traded unless it is the last year of his contract.

Minny will probably lose slo-mo but that's the business of keeping Naz Reid. I would rather have Naz then slo-mo.
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Post#643 » by BrOnXKing1 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 7:08 pm

Robin Lopez. He has that hook shot and Thibs will like his energy
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Post#644 » by Riot Randolph » Mon Jul 1, 2024 7:10 pm

wow Melton 1 year 12.8 million with the Warriors
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Post#645 » by Im Coming Home » Mon Jul 1, 2024 7:10 pm

BrOnXKing1 wrote:Robin Lopez. He has that hook shot and Thibs will like his energy

If we let go of Sims I'd take him as our 3rd big.. not our 2nd. Infact I'd let Sims go if it meant we could get him back.
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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - post Mikal trade 

Post#646 » by Riot Randolph » Mon Jul 1, 2024 7:11 pm

Jeffrey wrote:
lloydj wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:

:lol:


Ask yourself, would we trade Josh for that type of package? No, so why would the Wolves do that for their 6th man that can also start.


Timberwolves is over the second apron team and need relief.


Why do they need relief? the 2nd apron is not a hard cap. If you're over it, it restricts you to do a lot of things but that doesn't mean you have to go below it.

He is a 6 MOY winner at a ridiculous cheap contract. He is a premium 3 & D guy, he is probably one of the most untouchable players in the league. He will never get traded unless it is the last year of his contract.

Minny will probably lose slo-mo but that's the business of keeping Naz Reid. I would rather have Naz then slo-mo.
lol twolves would never consider that proposal.... props like that are what get GMs blackballed
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Post#647 » by TrueWarrior » Mon Jul 1, 2024 7:18 pm

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TrueWarrior wrote:Deuce alone would not be enough for Kessler.

Would have to include Pacome and another 1st at minimum.

We’d probably go in a cheaper direction. Just used a lot of assets on Mikal.


Who knows but why?

Duece has a great contract...even better than Kessler. He was a +10 ppg scorer in the playoffs as a 23 year old. He plays very good defense.

Kessler is stuck in a jazz rotation last year and they added 2 more guys to it.


Because Ainge knows we’re desperate now and he’s a d*ck lol.

Kessler is a starting caliber center on a rookie contract with 2 years left. That’s more valuable than an undersized SG like Deuce.

Lauri could be traded any day now, Eubanks sucks, Collins is a 4, and Filipowski is unproven.

So yeah I just think theyd want Deuce, Pacome, and another 1st at minimum.
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Post#648 » by mpharris36 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 7:22 pm

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TrueWarrior wrote:Deuce alone would not be enough for Kessler.

Would have to include Pacome and another 1st at minimum.

We’d probably go in a cheaper direction. Just used a lot of assets on Mikal.


Who knows but why?

Duece has a great contract...even better than Kessler. He was a +10 ppg scorer in the playoffs as a 23 year old. He plays very good defense.

Kessler is stuck in a jazz rotation last year and they added 2 more guys to it.


Because Ainge knows we’re desperate now and he’s a d*ck lol.

Kessler is a starting caliber center on a rookie contract with 2 years left. That’s more valuable than an undersized SG like Deuce.

Lauri could be traded any day now, Eubanks sucks, Collins is a 4, and Filipowski is unproven.

So yeah I just think theyd want Deuce, Pacome, and another 1st at minimum.


and if Ainge keeps Kessler with the log jam at center and his numbers go down he will lose a lot of trade value for him with only one year left. So its not like Ainge is in some kind of drivers seat. They had a chance to showcase Kessler big time and they opted to playing John Collins and Olynyk bigger mins...and now they added to the frontcourt with Filipowski and Eubanks.

You think Eubanks signed there to get no minutes?
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Post#649 » by TrueWarrior » Mon Jul 1, 2024 7:31 pm

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TrueWarrior wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
Who knows but why?

Duece has a great contract...even better than Kessler. He was a +10 ppg scorer in the playoffs as a 23 year old. He plays very good defense.

Kessler is stuck in a jazz rotation last year and they added 2 more guys to it.


Because Ainge knows we’re desperate now and he’s a d*ck lol.

Kessler is a starting caliber center on a rookie contract with 2 years left. That’s more valuable than an undersized SG like Deuce.

Lauri could be traded any day now, Eubanks sucks, Collins is a 4, and Filipowski is unproven.

So yeah I just think theyd want Deuce, Pacome, and another 1st at minimum.


and if Ainge keeps Kessler with the log jam at center and his numbers go down he will lose a lot of trade value for him with only one year left. So its not like Ainge is in some kind of drivers seat. They had a chance to showcase Kessler big time and they opted to playing John Collins and Olynyk bigger mins...and now they added to the frontcourt with Filipowski and Eubanks.

You think Eubanks signed there to get no minutes?


We both know Ainge is stubborn and will just let Kessler rot if he cant get 2+ picks for him. He’s let assets expire before.

I’d offer Deuce and either Pacome or a future protected 1st. Take it or leave it.

Chances are we are rolling with Mitch and will probably only bring back Precious. Even Goga seems like a pipedream now.
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Post#650 » by Richard4444 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 7:33 pm

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TrueWarrior wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
Who knows but why?

Duece has a great contract...even better than Kessler. He was a +10 ppg scorer in the playoffs as a 23 year old. He plays very good defense.

Kessler is stuck in a jazz rotation last year and they added 2 more guys to it.


Because Ainge knows we’re desperate now and he’s a d*ck lol.

Kessler is a starting caliber center on a rookie contract with 2 years left. That’s more valuable than an undersized SG like Deuce.

Lauri could be traded any day now, Eubanks sucks, Collins is a 4, and Filipowski is unproven.

So yeah I just think theyd want Deuce, Pacome, and another 1st at minimum.


and if Ainge keeps Kessler with the log jam at center and his numbers go down he will lose a lot of trade value for him with only one year left. So its not like Ainge is in some kind of drivers seat. They had a chance to showcase Kessler big time and they opted to playing John Collins and Olynyk bigger mins...and now they added to the frontcourt with Filipowski and Eubanks.

You think Eubanks signed there to get no minutes?


Kessler's number already went down last season. He even lost the starting spot to John Collins. He was very disappointing in fantasy last season.
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Post#651 » by mpharris36 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 7:35 pm

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mpharris36 wrote:
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Because Ainge knows we’re desperate now and he’s a d*ck lol.

Kessler is a starting caliber center on a rookie contract with 2 years left. That’s more valuable than an undersized SG like Deuce.

Lauri could be traded any day now, Eubanks sucks, Collins is a 4, and Filipowski is unproven.

So yeah I just think theyd want Deuce, Pacome, and another 1st at minimum.


and if Ainge keeps Kessler with the log jam at center and his numbers go down he will lose a lot of trade value for him with only one year left. So its not like Ainge is in some kind of drivers seat. They had a chance to showcase Kessler big time and they opted to playing John Collins and Olynyk bigger mins...and now they added to the frontcourt with Filipowski and Eubanks.

You think Eubanks signed there to get no minutes?


We both know Ainge is stubborn and will just let Kessler rot if he cant get 2+ picks for him. He’s let assets expire before.

I’d offer Deuce and either Pacome or a future protected 1st. Take it or leave it.

Chances are we are rolling with Mitch and will probably only bring back Precious. Even Goga seems like a pipedream now.


Thats fine as well...maybe Utah has interest in Rokas...he seems like he would be a fit there as well.

Duece I see as one of the best contracts in the game...it would be a super valuable piece for Utah to get.
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Post#652 » by KnixinSix » Mon Jul 1, 2024 7:36 pm

TrueWarrior wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
TrueWarrior wrote:Deuce alone would not be enough for Kessler.

Would have to include Pacome and another 1st at minimum.

We’d probably go in a cheaper direction. Just used a lot of assets on Mikal.


Who knows but why?

Duece has a great contract...even better than Kessler. He was a +10 ppg scorer in the playoffs as a 23 year old. He plays very good defense.

Kessler is stuck in a jazz rotation last year and they added 2 more guys to it.


Because Ainge knows we’re desperate now and he’s a d*ck lol.

Kessler is a starting caliber center on a rookie contract with 2 years left. That’s more valuable than an undersized SG like Deuce.

Lauri could be traded any day now, Eubanks sucks, Collins is a 4, and Filipowski is unproven.

So yeah I just think theyd want Deuce, Pacome, and another 1st at minimum.


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Post#653 » by mpharris36 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 7:39 pm

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mpharris36 wrote:
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Because Ainge knows we’re desperate now and he’s a d*ck lol.

Kessler is a starting caliber center on a rookie contract with 2 years left. That’s more valuable than an undersized SG like Deuce.

Lauri could be traded any day now, Eubanks sucks, Collins is a 4, and Filipowski is unproven.

So yeah I just think theyd want Deuce, Pacome, and another 1st at minimum.


and if Ainge keeps Kessler with the log jam at center and his numbers go down he will lose a lot of trade value for him with only one year left. So its not like Ainge is in some kind of drivers seat. They had a chance to showcase Kessler big time and they opted to playing John Collins and Olynyk bigger mins...and now they added to the frontcourt with Filipowski and Eubanks.

You think Eubanks signed there to get no minutes?


Kessler's number already went down last season. He even lost the starting spot to John Collins. He was very disappointing in fantasy last season.


I think because Will Hardy (coming from BOS) prefers 5 out. They even tried to get Kessler to shoot 3's which is sort of ridiculous.

I feel like Duece instantly becomes a starter or a key 30 minute a night piece for them who fits alongside a higher usage guard like Sexton

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they don't have any 3pt guards that can also shoot. I think the fit there is great tbh. Couple that with Kessler falling a bit out of favor...seems like a good match.
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Post#654 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Jul 1, 2024 7:42 pm

I am surprised there are no rumors we are looking to replace him or any news at all about our reaction to losing Shart.

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Post#655 » by KnixinSix » Mon Jul 1, 2024 7:45 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
and if Ainge keeps Kessler with the log jam at center and his numbers go down he will lose a lot of trade value for him with only one year left. So its not like Ainge is in some kind of drivers seat. They had a chance to showcase Kessler big time and they opted to playing John Collins and Olynyk bigger mins...and now they added to the frontcourt with Filipowski and Eubanks.

You think Eubanks signed there to get no minutes?


Kessler's number already went down last season. He even lost the starting spot to John Collins. He was very disappointing in fantasy last season.


I think because Will Hardy (coming from BOS) prefers 5 out. They even tried to get Kessler to shoot 3's which is sort of ridiculous.

I feel like Duece instantly becomes a starter or a key 30 minute a night piece for them who fits alongside a higher usage guard like Sexton

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they don't have any 3pt guards that can also shoot. I think the fit there is great tbh. Couple that with Kessler falling a bit out of favor...seems like a good match.


Duece is probably our best pure 1 stopper.

I don't know if I want to give that up. Give them 2 firsts and Rokas
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Post#656 » by robillionaire » Mon Jul 1, 2024 7:47 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
Kessler's number already went down last season. He even lost the starting spot to John Collins. He was very disappointing in fantasy last season.


I think because Will Hardy (coming from BOS) prefers 5 out. They even tried to get Kessler to shoot 3's which is sort of ridiculous.

I feel like Duece instantly becomes a starter or a key 30 minute a night piece for them who fits alongside a higher usage guard like Sexton

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they don't have any 3pt guards that can also shoot. I think the fit there is great tbh. Couple that with Kessler falling a bit out of favor...seems like a good match.


Duece is probably our best pure 1 stopper.

I don't know if I want to give that up. Give them 2 firsts and Rokas


We don’t have our own firsts we have the wizards and pistons protected picks that don’t have a lot of value and Rokas might as well be nobody. And Ainge is going to give us the best rim protector in the NBA
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Post#657 » by mpharris36 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 7:48 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
Kessler's number already went down last season. He even lost the starting spot to John Collins. He was very disappointing in fantasy last season.


I think because Will Hardy (coming from BOS) prefers 5 out. They even tried to get Kessler to shoot 3's which is sort of ridiculous.

I feel like Duece instantly becomes a starter or a key 30 minute a night piece for them who fits alongside a higher usage guard like Sexton

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they don't have any 3pt guards that can also shoot. I think the fit there is great tbh. Couple that with Kessler falling a bit out of favor...seems like a good match.


Duece is probably our best pure 1 stopper.

I don't know if I want to give that up. Give them 2 firsts and Rokas



we don't have firsts to trade and you aren't getting Kessler for protected picks that might not convey.

Mikal can guard 1's...and if we are being realistic. A playoff rotation with Donte now coming off the bench. How many minutes is Duece realistically playing on this team? 10?

I think its way more important to get insurance at center because mitch is going to miss games...he always does and then we will be left with Sims? Or a smaller Precious?

And we also drafted Kolek who should be able to give us some bench minutes right away since he is advanced for being a rookie.
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Post#658 » by TrueWarrior » Mon Jul 1, 2024 7:56 pm

Whether it is Kessler or somebody else we’re not thinking of, Deuce has to be on the market.

I like the kid, but it’s business. He’s a 10-15 mpg player here now. Mikal replaces a lot of what he brings. Plus we have Donte, Josh, and now Kolek off the bench to give playmaking. Rokas too if he ever comes.

Deuce, rights to Pacome and Rokas, plus one or both of the crappy protected firsts we have for Kessler is about the best we can do, unless we throw some swaps in too. That would be pretty much all the assets we have left outside of our top 8 guys. Not sure we’d do it, but if we’re going for it now we’d have to think about it.

Most likely we will remain patient and go for cheaper options.
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Post#659 » by mpharris36 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 8:03 pm

TrueWarrior wrote:Whether it is Kessler or somebody else we’re not thinking of, Deuce has to be on the market.

I like the kid, but it’s business. He’s a 10-15 mpg player here now. Mikal replaces a lot of what he brings. Plus we have Donte, Josh, and now Kolek off the bench to give playmaking. Rokas too if he ever comes.

Deuce, rights to Pacome and Rokas, plus one or both of the crappy protected firsts we have for Kessler is about the best we can do, unless we throw some swaps in too. That would be pretty all the assets we have left outside of our top 8 guys. Not sure we’d do it, but if we’re going for it now we’d have to think about it.

Most likely we will remain patient and go for cheaper options.



and i feel like its easier to find a vet guard....if we someone can expand the mikal trade an become a 2nd apron team we can probably realistically bring in a Kyle Lowry for one year if we don't think Kolek is ready just yet to bridge the gap.

Delon Wright just signed for like 3.3 MM and he is a servicable backup. We really only need someone to spell Brunson...which isn't that many minutes especially in the playoffs. I love duece but he's not a PG more off ball but we have DD locked up to play that off guard shooting role....not the defender duece is but we also got Mikal and OG for a reason as well
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Post#660 » by WargamesX » Mon Jul 1, 2024 8:04 pm

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I really want to wrap this off season up already. :lol:


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