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Post#1301 » by fansinceforever » Wed Jul 3, 2024 11:37 pm

Maybe this signals a Bobby or Pat trade...idk. it's ok.
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Post#1302 » by bucksfansince88 » Wed Jul 3, 2024 11:41 pm

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bucksfansince88 wrote:When is the PC trade going to happen



What's the rumor.. I missed it


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Post#1303 » by machu46 » Wed Jul 3, 2024 11:46 pm

Frank Nova wrote:Are we all overlooking the potential rise of Andre Jackson Jr.? If he’s dedicated to working on his shot and slowing the game down, he’s the ideal starting wing between Dame and Khris right? We’re looking for a wing with length, mobility, high energy and up in your face 94’ defense at the point of attack right? In theory, that should be him. Andre seems tailor made for the role we have a massive opening at.


If Andre randomly learns to shoot, no doubt he's a good fit. Wouldn't say there's much hope for that but stranger things have happened. Could end up being good enough defensively that you roll with the lack of shooting ala PJ Tucker but we'll see. Feels easier to imagine Green being passable on defense than Jackson being passable on offense to me.
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Post#1304 » by blazza18 » Wed Jul 3, 2024 11:52 pm

Ruben Quevedo wrote:Deploy him in the offense as though he were prime Klay (perhaps minus the occasional post ups), and you will see both him and the offense reach another level.


Can we see Green not be a deer in headlights when he's not wide open before we spew this kind of nonsense?
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Post#1305 » by kanyon » Thu Jul 4, 2024 12:11 am

Dame played with Gary Trent, maybe he could lure him here for that 2 spot.
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Post#1306 » by machu46 » Thu Jul 4, 2024 12:12 am

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Ruben Quevedo wrote:Deploy him in the offense as though he were prime Klay (perhaps minus the occasional post ups), and you will see both him and the offense reach another level.


Can we see Green not be a deer in headlights when he's not wide open before we spew this kind of nonsense?

He shot the lights out on contested 3’s this year. He just went ice cold in the playoffs.


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Post#1307 » by tsamo » Thu Jul 4, 2024 12:14 am

Was watching Giannis playing for the Greece national team and I just rememebered.

Wasn't at some point leaked that Bucks had considered Papagiannis for the team?
But he got injured right about then and just never happened?

He seems to play right about Brook's style, if slighlty taller and more manoeuvrable. Not to mention he's still 27 years old.

He's been a defensive player of the year before and these past two years he's added a 3pt shot that he shoots at about 48% clip, taking about 1.5 per game.

He seems like a bargain Lopez on paper. Wouldn't mind taking a flier on him.
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Post#1308 » by Frank Nova » Thu Jul 4, 2024 12:29 am

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Frank Nova wrote:Are we all overlooking the potential rise of Andre Jackson Jr.? If he’s dedicated to working on his shot and slowing the game down, he’s the ideal starting wing between Dame and Khris right? We’re looking for a wing with length, mobility, high energy and up in your face 94’ defense at the point of attack right? In theory, that should be him. Andre seems tailor made for the role we have a massive opening at.


If Andre randomly learns to shoot, no doubt he's a good fit. Wouldn't say there's much hope for that but stranger things have happened. Could end up being good enough defensively that you roll with the lack of shooting ala PJ Tucker but we'll see. Feels easier to imagine Green being passable on defense than Jackson being passable on offense to me.


How passable on offense does Jackson Jr. have to be to be serviceable? He’s not a ball stopper by any means and he does the high energy little things that create momentum. Being active setting screens and fighting for loose balls is all we really need him to do. When he’s occasionally wide open for 3 he can shoot and hopefully work his way to a mid 30% low volume shooter. It’s more so the length, mobility and energy I’m looking for than the shooting. I feel that way about any potential wing that’s gonna be the starting SG.
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Post#1309 » by drone3 » Thu Jul 4, 2024 12:36 am

tsamo wrote:Was watching Giannis playing for the Greece national team and I just rememebered.

Wasn't at some point leaked that Bucks had considered Papagiannis for the team?
But he got injured right about then and just never happened?

He seems to play right about Brook's style, if slighlty taller and more manoeuvrable. Not to mention he's still 27 years old.

He's been a defensive player of the year before and these past two years he's added a 3pt shot that he shoots at about 48% clip, taking about 1.5 per game.

He seems like a bargain Lopez on paper. Wouldn't mind taking a flier on him.
Haven't watched him but if he can defend and rebound bring him in for a trial
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Post#1310 » by machu46 » Thu Jul 4, 2024 12:45 am

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Frank Nova wrote:Are we all overlooking the potential rise of Andre Jackson Jr.? If he’s dedicated to working on his shot and slowing the game down, he’s the ideal starting wing between Dame and Khris right? We’re looking for a wing with length, mobility, high energy and up in your face 94’ defense at the point of attack right? In theory, that should be him. Andre seems tailor made for the role we have a massive opening at.


If Andre randomly learns to shoot, no doubt he's a good fit. Wouldn't say there's much hope for that but stranger things have happened. Could end up being good enough defensively that you roll with the lack of shooting ala PJ Tucker but we'll see. Feels easier to imagine Green being passable on defense than Jackson being passable on offense to me.


How passable on offense does Jackson Jr. have to be to be serviceable? He’s not a ball stopper by any means and he does the high energy little things that create momentum. Being active setting screens and fighting for loose balls is all we really need him to do. When he’s occasionally wide open for 3 he can shoot and hopefully work his way to a mid 30% low volume shooter. It’s more so the length, mobility and energy I’m looking for than the shooting. I feel that way about any potential wing that’s gonna be the starting SG.


If he ends up being good on defense, the bar is fairly low on offense. I just want him to be capable enough that teams actually defend him; he isn't there yet on either end of the floor but certainly has the potential to get there particularly on defense.
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Post#1311 » by tski1972 » Thu Jul 4, 2024 12:46 am

How is Dario Saric defensively? Seems offensively he’d be a good fit for a back-up 5.
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Post#1312 » by Ruben Quevedo » Thu Jul 4, 2024 12:55 am

blazza18 wrote:
Ruben Quevedo wrote:Deploy him in the offense as though he were prime Klay (perhaps minus the occasional post ups), and you will see both him and the offense reach another level.


Can we see Green not be a deer in headlights when he's not wide open before we spew this kind of nonsense?


What? He’s extremely comfortable taking tightly contested threes.

He can be a bit deer in the headlights when he’s dribbling inside the 3 point line, but that’s not uncommon for players who are pigeon-holed as shooters only. Getting comfortable with his handle is the next step, and that requires reps (and a coach who believes in him)
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Post#1313 » by Ruben Quevedo » Thu Jul 4, 2024 12:58 am

machu46 wrote:
blazza18 wrote:
Ruben Quevedo wrote:Deploy him in the offense as though he were prime Klay (perhaps minus the occasional post ups), and you will see both him and the offense reach another level.


Can we see Green not be a deer in headlights when he's not wide open before we spew this kind of nonsense?

He shot the lights out on contested 3’s this year. He just went ice cold in the playoffs.


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Not only does he shoot contested threes well, he’s not afraid to take them. Grayson Allen he is not.

He’s truly a fearless shooter (which all elite shooters must be), not just a floor spacer who shoots when he’s open.
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Post#1314 » by blazza18 » Thu Jul 4, 2024 1:14 am

Yeah, I just don't see what you guys see in him as a shooter. To my eyes he takes the easiest shots any three point shooter should be expected to take and make. Anything besides that and he's not comfortable at all. He's certainly not a floor spacer yet let alone one we should deploy like Klay
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Post#1315 » by Daver » Thu Jul 4, 2024 3:56 am

Does anyone know tbe bucks summer league roster yet.Havnt heard anything on this
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Post#1316 » by htr » Thu Jul 4, 2024 4:03 am

Hachimura, Vanderbilt, Reddish for Lopez and Connaughton…. Yay or Nay??
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Post#1317 » by ShootingtheJ » Thu Jul 4, 2024 4:28 am

htr wrote:Hachimura, Vanderbilt, Reddish for Lopez and Connaughton…. Yay or Nay??


This deal is tricky, because both teams presently are over the 2nd apron, so neither team can take on more salary in trade. Need to involve a 3rd team.

As for the players, the addition of Prince lessens the need for Reddish. Vanderbilt is coming off an injury plagued season, but is a heck of a defender. We want a more agile center, which he fits, except he's proven to be a bit small for a center. Hachimura is coming off a great shooting season, and he's always been aserious playoff riser. However he's also been a real regular season coaster.

Tough call, I'm no help here.
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Post#1318 » by htr » Thu Jul 4, 2024 4:44 am

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htr wrote:Hachimura, Vanderbilt, Reddish for Lopez and Connaughton…. Yay or Nay??


This deal is tricky, because both teams presently are over the 2nd apron, so neither team can take on more salary in trade. Need to involve a 3rd team.

As for the players, the addition of Prince lessens the need for Reddish. Vanderbilt is coming off an injury plagued season, but is a heck of a defender. We want a more agile center, which he fits, except he's proven to be a bit small for a center. Hachimura is coming off a great shooting season, and he's always been aserious playoff riser. However he's also been a real regular season coaster.

Tough call, I'm no help here.


Personally I’d rather keep Reddish out, add Knecht, and give LAL some type of future draft compensation. Bronny will need Knechts minutes anyway…
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Post#1319 » by ReasonablySober » Thu Jul 4, 2024 4:53 am

Knecht signed his deal. He’s not being traded.
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Post#1320 » by higharc » Thu Jul 4, 2024 6:15 am

Is a backup 5 really needed?
Assuming we keep Brook and Bobby, Giannis plays some minutes here and there.
In the Bobby or Giannis at center lineups Tyler Smith should be the "4". Or Livingston if you want to go small ball.
Give them a chance. If it comes to that we can always find someone in the buyout market later on.

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