Fake Trade Thread #6

[Braggins]

And Mitch is the shadow government that controls the deep state Hornets.

[MasterIchiro]

I don't think Ingram is a big upgrade.

Sure, he's better in a vacuum. But Miles plays 75 games, Ingram plays 55.

I'd take the draft picks and the Clippers deal instead.

Ingram literally just got benched in the playoffs too.

He's not an upgrade in vacuum. But if his medicals check out, Ingram is far more talented and versatile as a scorer/defender than Miles.

[LofJ]

I like Ingram at $30 million a year, but he's asking for $50 million and it's why the Pelicans want to move him. And they're right, he isn't worth that much. He either doesn't want to or can't play without the ball in his hands. He's good at creating offense, but he's a ball stopper that doesn't make his teammates better. If he knew how to play without the ball he'd be a much better player. That Brandon Ingram would probably be worth $50 million, but I don't think he has that in him. He proved that with his disastrous performance in the World Cup games.

Camelo Anthony was able to do it later in his career so it's not impossible for Ingram to do it. It's a shame Carmelo didn't do it sooner though, you would think he would have figured it out when he was dominating in international basketball playing without the ball.

[Liver_Pooty]

Brandon Ingram is lazy. He was lazy at duke and has made a ton of money off ridiculous physical attributes. If he had any semblance of a heart he would be a top 10 player today. He was an utter disaster in the playoffs.

That being said if he was on a contract for another 2 or 3 years that wasn't terrible I'd absolutely make that trade. But he's not.

[MasterIchiro]

Brandon Ingram is lazy. He was lazy at duke and has made a ton of money off ridiculous physical attributes. If he had any semblance of a heart he would be a top 10 player today. He was an utter disaster in the playoffs.

That being said if he was on a contract for another 2 or 3 years that wasn't terrible I'd absolutely make that trade. But he's not.

Well he's so much better at basketball than Terry and PJ, and those guys each commanded one lightly protected 1st round pick.

Cost must be 2 firsts even if he pulls an OG Anunoby and gets overpaid at 42 per. If healthy, Ingram is as valuable as OG.

If we pull the trigger 30-35 million per year for Mjles is saved/avoided so shave that right off the top and you're left with a premium of 15 million (equal to Miles' cap hold).

[JustBuzzin]

Yall are crazy, if we can upgrade from Miles to Ingram you do it in a heartbeat.

Especially if it doesn't require multiple picks in a deal. As long as we have those future picks we can always trade Ingram + picks down the line. Ingram is just flat out better than Miles.

[MasterIchiro]

Yall are crazy, if we can upgrade from Miles to Ingram you do it in a heartbeat.

Especially if it doesn't require multiple picks in a deal. As long as we have those future picks we can always trade Ingram + picks down the line. Ingram is just flat out better than Miles.

I think the Pels easily have multiple bidders if the price is 2 firsts. Ingram is an All-Star. His owed money is not crippling like LaVine's.

Luckily he's a rental like OG so there's some type of price check. But even so, Knicks dealt Quickley & RJ Barrett. Both players would command one 1st round pick each.

[Liver_Pooty]

Yall are crazy, if we can upgrade from Miles to Ingram you do it in a heartbeat.

Especially if it doesn't require multiple picks in a deal. As long as we have those future picks we can always trade Ingram + picks down the line. Ingram is just flat out better than Miles.

You okay paying 50 million for 20 5 and 5 and plays 50 games?

[JustBuzzin]

Yall are crazy, if we can upgrade from Miles to Ingram you do it in a heartbeat.

Especially if it doesn't require multiple picks in a deal. As long as we have those future picks we can always trade Ingram + picks down the line. Ingram is just flat out better than Miles.

You okay paying 50 million for 20 5 and 5 and plays 50 games?

We did it for Melo who plays less lol

If the cost isn't that much sure why not?

[GiggitySmalls]

I'd take him at 40ish mil. He definitely a better player than Miles. No question about that.

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[Liver_Pooty]

Yall are crazy, if we can upgrade from Miles to Ingram you do it in a heartbeat.

Especially if it doesn't require multiple picks in a deal. As long as we have those future picks we can always trade Ingram + picks down the line. Ingram is just flat out better than Miles.

You okay paying 50 million for 20 5 and 5 and plays 50 games?

We did it for Melo who plays less lol

If the cost isn't that much sure why not?

Because you gave to factor in Millers eventual deal and Mark if he pans out. Melo definitely isn't a 20 5 5 player when healthy.

[JustBuzzin]

You okay paying 50 million for 20 5 and 5 and plays 50 games?

We did it for Melo who plays less lol

If the cost isn't that much sure why not?

Because you gave to factor in Millers eventual deal and Mark if he pans out. Melo definitely isn't a 20 5 5 player when healthy.

Somehow Ingram has made an all-star team being a 20/5/5 player...

[Liver_Pooty]

We did it for Melo who plays less lol

If the cost isn't that much sure why not?

Because you gave to factor in Millers eventual deal and Mark if he pans out. Melo definitely isn't a 20 5 5 player when healthy.

Somehow Ingram has made an all-star team being a 20/5/5 player...

Somehow that's what he averaged last season. Watch basketball

[GiggitySmalls]

Assuming we signed and trades, what would it hypothetically take to johnson and Ingram? And do we have the assets? I can dream.

Mello/Mann/Micic
Miller/Green/Mann
Ingram/Green
Johnson/Grant/Tidjaun
William/Richards

That be the core roster, with the hornets other scrap fil in as needed. Some Poku, Jackson, Martin, NSJ. I think we should be aggressive and try and pull this off if it took bridges, and maybe the 2027 3rds we got and maybe a pick swap and 2nds. We still have 4 picks in 3 years in the first after this right.

Something else is both 27 firsts from the mavs and heat for whitmore if we didn't do what I said above.

Is Cam available? I've heard us talk about him within the board.

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[JDR720]

Even if you think Ingram is better than Miles and is worth trading for, he isn't a viable 3rd option here. He's not a defender, a passer or even that good a 3pt shooter.

If you want to build a "Big 3" then the 3rd guy needs to be versatile or really good at something, but Ingram projects as a worse Brandon Miller.

This is basically what the Suns did when they got Beal when they already had Booker. And Ingram, like Beal, gets hurt a bunch.

[GiggitySmalls]

Even if you think Ingram is better than Miles and is worth trading for, he isn't a viable 3rd option here. He's not a defender, a passer or even that good a 3pt shooter.

If you want to build a "Big 3" then the 3rd guy needs to be versatile or really good at something, but Ingram projects as a worse Brandon Miller.

This is basically what the Suns did when they got Beal when they already had Booker. And Ingram, like Beal, gets hurt a bunch.

Thr suns had 49 wins. Would be nice to get close to that. While being younger and a bit deeper with our own picks.

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[JDR720]

Even if you think Ingram is better than Miles and is worth trading for, he isn't a viable 3rd option here. He's not a defender, a passer or even that good a 3pt shooter.

If you want to build a "Big 3" then the 3rd guy needs to be versatile or really good at something, but Ingram projects as a worse Brandon Miller.

This is basically what the Suns did when they got Beal when they already had Booker. And Ingram, like Beal, gets hurt a bunch.

Thr suns has 49 wins. Would be nice to get close to that. While being younger and a bit deeper with our own picks.

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They also had Kevin Durant and Booker is also better than Melo/Miller are. They won 49 games by having 2 superstars, Beal didn't contribute much of anything. He missed almost half the season.

[GiggitySmalls]

They also had no room to improve while we would have our own picks. All I know a move like that or getting a player like cam whitmore with picks would be awesome, and certainly generate some buzz in buzz city.

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[bravor]

Knowing when to tank and when not would do this team a blessing. It's pure nonsense not to tank in one of the most loaded draft, esp. after the 24th one.
Being on top of the lottery means leverage, picking bpa or better fit.
Not being amont the 3 worst teams in 2025 would be dumb, there is no other word, even with Lamelo's extention starting to click

Likewise, throwing away Dallas/Heat 1st like candies is something i would not do. I 'd rather trade one of Charlotte's 1st from 27/28 before those, because you can control what you doing here but nobody knows how the heat/dallas will evolve. Dallas in particular have a limited window to perform, as Doncic despite his age has been playing heavily since he's 15. Considering how he manages his body, i highly doubt it wont take its toll sooner than later. And anyway, they will have to retool their roster sooner than later.
Heat will probably have to rebuild as well pretty soon, it would be silly to trade that pick (even if they, as usual, hit gold in the draft and in FA).

It's not sexy, but last 2nd pick was B. Miller and last 3rd pick has been Lamelo Ball. Trying to hit the jackpot in the low 10ies or in the 6 7 8 9 area is nothing but a guarantee especially here (sorry for opening an open door as we say here).

I have no problem to advocate learning to win etc from 2025.

[MasterIchiro]

Even if you think Ingram is better than Miles and is worth trading for, he isn't a viable 3rd option here. .

He's easily as accomplished as a scorer as Jrue Holiday or Kristaps Porzingis.

Championship level 3rd option.

Why pay 30 million for Miles Bridges as your third option if you can apply 30 million annually to buffer the cost of a much more competitive 3rd option who's the same age?

Medicals have to check out, but let's not downplay Ingram as a scorer. He's not a sniper but he's excellent on the ball. He's better at scoring in isolation than anyone on our roster.

LaMelo + Miller + Ingram can really stress any defense unless it's top half.

We have Green as our POA defender.

And let's not just ignore Miles is an even worse defender.

This whole conversation is about upgrading Miles.

Would you rather have Miles than Ingram?

Should be an easy, quick answer.