The Joe Ingles Thread

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I see the Ingles signing as a safety net to provide stability while some combination of Minott/Miller/Shannon transition to rotation roles. Hopefully, at least one of the prospects steps up to claim the Anderson minutes, but it's good to have Ingles available to fill any gaps during the learning process.

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I see the Ingles signing as a safety net to provide stability while some combination of Minott/Miller/Shannon transition to rotation roles. Hopefully, at least one of the prospects steps up to claim the Anderson minutes, but it's good to have Ingles available to fill any gaps during the learning process.

Excellent point. TSJ is ready IMO but we really need at least one of Miller or Minott to take that next step this season. Miller is more naturally talented so my money would be on him.

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This was written early in the season last year, but still speaks to the kind of impact he had in Orlando.

To Mosley’s point, while Ingles’ individual numbers haven’t been overly impressive, the Magic have outscored opponents 12.3 points per 100 possessions this season with Ingles on the floor. Ingles has capably run the second unit offensively, freeing Cole Anthony to be more of a scorer off the bench, and helped communicate the realities of the NBA to a roster headlined by 21-year-old Paolo Banchero and 22-year-old Franz Wagner and an average age of 23.6 years old, outside of Ingles.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5056841/2023/11/14/joe-ingles-orlando-magic/

[Nick K]

I see the Ingles signing as a safety net to provide stability while some combination of Minott/Miller/Shannon transition to rotation roles. Hopefully, at least one of the prospects steps up to claim the Anderson minutes, but it's good to have Ingles available to fill any gaps during the learning process.

Excellent point. TSJ is ready IMO but we really need at least one of Miller or Minott to take that next step this season. Miller is more naturally talented so my money would be on him.

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I think that's right. I haven't seen much from Minott except for athleticism. He's not a good shooter but he can get to the basket.....but has trouble finishing.

We need Miller at SF/PF to shoot and rebound. I give the nod to Miller. Big year for both of them.

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If this is true, then one or both of Minott or Miller is gonna ride the pine for much of the year. I get prioritizing winning over development at this stage of the franchise. But, if playing Jingles big minutes is how you do it, that is concerning.

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If this is true, then one or both of Minott or Miller is gonna ride the pine for much of the year. I get prioritizing winning over development at this stage of the franchise. But, if playing Jingles big minutes is how you do it, that is concerning.

Based on his last couple seasons Jingles is still effective in limited minutes. I can definitely see him getting 10 a game and as you said it would be at the expense of Minott/Miller and Shannon to lesser degree.

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If this is true, then one or both of Minott or Miller is gonna ride the pine for much of the year. I get prioritizing winning over development at this stage of the franchise. But, if playing Jingles big minutes is how you do it, that is concerning.

Based on his last couple seasons Jingles is still effective in limited minutes. I can definitely see him getting 10 a game and as you said it would be at the expense of Minott/Miller and Shannon to lesser degree.

“As heavily as his body will let him,” is more than 10. He averaged 17.2 last year. Assuming RD takes some of Mike’s minutes (play him less per game,) and all of the Monte/JMAC minutes, RD will play plenty. That leaves the Kyle minutes plus some shave on the minutes of Ant and the other starters to help them recover from the deep run/olympics. If those minutes go to Jingles that suggests Minott is a bust, and Miller is a disappointment.

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If this is true, then one or both of Minott or Miller is gonna ride the pine for much of the year. I get prioritizing winning over development at this stage of the franchise. But, if playing Jingles big minutes is how you do it, that is concerning.

I've already been expecting that to be the case.....unless they really show out in summer league and training camp.

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If this is true, then one or both of Minott or Miller is gonna ride the pine for much of the year. I get prioritizing winning over development at this stage of the franchise. But, if playing Jingles big minutes is how you do it, that is concerning.

Nah, if anything Minott and Miller wont get playing time because they are better suited as PF rather than wings. In other words, Towns and Reid playing big chunk of minutes at PF will leave only limited amount of opportunites for Minott and Miller. Watch Joe Ingles videos: he can slash, he can pass and he can shoot. Neither of Miller/Minott can do these things at NBA level. However, if Towns will miss games due to load management it open a HUGE opportunity for Miller/Minott.

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If this is true, then one or both of Minott or Miller is gonna ride the pine for much of the year. I get prioritizing winning over development at this stage of the franchise. But, if playing Jingles big minutes is how you do it, that is concerning.

Nah, if anything Minott and Miller wont get playing time because they are better suited as PF rather than wings. In other words, Towns and Reid playing big chunk of minutes at PF will leave only limited amount of opportunites for Minott and Miller. Watch Joe Ingles videos: he can slash, he can pass and he can shoot. Neither of Miller/Minott can do these things at NBA level. However, if Towns will miss games due to load management it open a HUGE opportunity for Miller/Minott.

Disagree on both. Minott has the wrong body type to be a stretch 4. If anything he is more 2/3 than a 3/4. He should be capable of backing up MCD for 10+ minutes by now. That is not to suggest on a bad team with low stakes games and a ton of playing time he could not be salvaged, but for our purposes if he hasn’t gotten there by year 3, he is unlikely to get there. Miller is more an undersized 5 than a PF.

In any case both Karl and Naz have proven they can play SF without issues. Any lineup including Minott or Miller with Karl and Naz should be fine. I wouldn’t pair Minott with Gobert, and I would be careful about pairing Miller with Gobert (again two non shooters is a problem,) but either should be fine so long as they are the worst shooter on the floor for us.