2024 Offseason Trades

[theBigLip]

2nd Unit - The Killer D
Sassar, Ausar, Holland, Okoro and Stewart.
I don’t think either team would score

[GreekAlex]

2nd Unit - The Killer D
Sassar, Ausar, Holland, Okoro and Stewart.
I don’t think either team would score

We can nickname that unit the “stalemates” lol

[Drwho17]

Okoro sounds like what we were hoping Grimes could be

Okoro to me sounds like Ausar or Ivey might get traded. Especially since he's still young and plays the 3. I really think Holland is going to be playing 4 spot of us.

If you believe the beat writers, in order of importance it's Cade then Ausar then the rest.

[Neptune]

2nd Unit - The Killer D
Sassar, Ausar, Holland, Okoro and Stewart.
I don’t think either team would score

Now that looks nice

[Neptune]

Okoro sounds like what we were hoping Grimes could be

Okoro to me sounds like Ausar or Ivey might get traded. Especially since he's still young and plays the 3. I really think Holland is going to be playing 4 spot of us.

If you believe the beat writers, in order of importance it's Cade then Ausar then the rest.

So if he did sign Okoro, do you see him starting or coming off the bench?

[Kilo]

Holland may mature into a 4, which is why Harris and Tek signed 2 yr deals. Holland is a wiry just turned 19 yr old.

[Invictus88]

In the article:

“If Detroit offered Okoro an annual salary north of the non-taxpayer midlevel exception, which is around $13 million per year, Cleveland would likely be iffy about that kind of financial commitment, especially with their current salary cap structure and an understanding that the roster will be even pricier moving forward,” Fedor wrote.

Why do we need yet another SF that can't shoot from the outside? We already have Holland and Ausar.

39% on 3 attempts would be great for Ausar or Holland.

I wouldn’t put Okoro in their category.

I stand corrected.

[coordinator0]

Didn't realize Ingram makes 36mil. So Ivey and Stew for him leaves us $13.
Sign Tyus. Add Sasser in sign and trade if tyus wants his 16mil.
Then we would need to talk Reed into taking 2mil that's leftover from8mil exemption(Beasley). If u can break that up. Not sure.
Then would we only have vet minimums?

Duren Reed
Tobias Fontecchio
Ingram Ausar Holland
Beasley THJr Cade
Cade Tyus Sasser

That looks glorious to me

After claiming Reed and his contract off waivers the Pistons would only have around $6 million in cap space after that trade. With a waiver claim a team gets the player and the contract as it was with the former team.

It will be interesting to see what kind of contract Tyus is looking at after still be available in free agency. I think I read somewhere that Washington is looking into sign-and-trades with him so his market isn't just limited to cap-space teams.

Not sure Detroit has enough maneuverable contracts left - moving Sasser only opens up a bit under $2.8 million more. And I don't think the team should want to do that. Hardaway Jr. or Moore Jr. can be moved in deals by themselves but the Pistons would likely be sending assets out to dump them... just like how they got those two already.

[Drwho17]

Yes, hopefully this stops the moves, keep the roster the way it is, let it play out this year with all of their youth and see how it goes. Don't be shipping out Duren or Ivey, or picking up guys like Brandon Ingram that their own teams don't want, especially to send out cheap young players. A move for a guy like Ingram at this time, is improper, Pistons fans could look back and see Middleton trade 2, maybe even worse. I just keep hoping something happens with Ingram and it isn't the Pistons who will be stuck with him and his max contract demands.

[coordinator0]

Yes, hopefully this stops the moves, keep the roster the way it is, let it play out this year with all of their youth and see how it goes. Don't be shipping out Duren or Ivey, or picking up guys like Brandon Ingram that their own teams don't want, especially to send out cheap young players. A move for a guy like Ingram at this time, is improper, Pistons fans could look back and see Middleton trade 2, maybe even worse. I just keep hoping something happens with Ingram and it isn't the Pistons who will be stuck with him and his max contract demands.

Eh. Without trading for Ingram the Pistons are sitting at almost $20 million in cap space still (i/when Taj Gibson's cap hold gets renounced). Something is going to happen - I highly doubt Langdon sits on that space even though they've reach the salary floor by claiming Reed.

Signing Fontecchio and Beasley to their deals officially takes away about $8.5 million of that space. But with that room to play around with I would be shocked if that's all they do.

Just signing Tyus with cap space would be fine with me though. Not sure he wants to come to Detroit but that addition would be great.

[bstein14]

Just a bit under $20 million remains if we use the room exception on Beasley or just a bit under $14 million remain if we want to keep our $8 million room exception for someone else.

[GreekAlex]

Just a bit under $20 million remains if we use the room exception on Beasley or just a bit under $14 million remain if we want to keep our $8 million room exception for someone else.

I wonder what the market actually is for Tyus.

I’m not sure why he’d sign here without a defined role considering there is so much evaluation with the young backcourt players.

I’d love to get him for a slightly above MLE 1+1 as an insurance policy. Seems like a very trade-able deal.

[Canadafan]

Just a bit under $20 million remains if we use the room exception on Beasley or just a bit under $14 million remain if we want to keep our $8 million room exception for someone else.

I wonder what the market actually is for Tyus.

I’m not sure why he’d sign here without a defined role considering there is so much evaluation with the young backcourt players.

I’d love to get him for a slightly above MLE 1+1 as an insurance policy. Seems like a very trade-able deal.

Ya, seems like the coach loves him some Ivey. Soooo, I'd still toss tyus that $14mil in capspace. And we'd even have the exemption leftover. We definitely have a ton of depth this year

[chrbal]

Just a bit under $20 million remains if we use the room exception on Beasley or just a bit under $14 million remain if we want to keep our $8 million room exception for someone else.

I wonder what the market actually is for Tyus.

He’s a starter on a bad team, bench guy on a good one. He seems like one of those guys who needed to convince the right team right away. I’d still give him an above mid level two year contract (second year a player option) and have him be a bridge guy. A glue guy until we can get a better long term fit.

[GreekAlex]

Just a bit under $20 million remains if we use the room exception on Beasley or just a bit under $14 million remain if we want to keep our $8 million room exception for someone else.

I wonder what the market actually is for Tyus.

He’s a starter on a bad team, bench guy on a good one. He seems like one of those guys who needed to convince the right team right away. I’d still give him an above mid level two year contract (second year a player option) and have him be a bridge guy. A glue guy until we can get a better long term fit.

I agree as far as role goes.

I just wonder what teams are considering him, who’s made him an offer (and at what price/term) and what he’s waiting for?

[bstein14]

Just a bit under $20 million remains if we use the room exception on Beasley or just a bit under $14 million remain if we want to keep our $8 million room exception for someone else.

I wonder what the market actually is for Tyus.

I’m not sure why he’d sign here without a defined role considering there is so much evaluation with the young backcourt players.

I’d love to get him for a slightly above MLE 1+1 as an insurance policy. Seems like a very trade-able deal.

Ya, seems like the coach loves him some Ivey. Soooo, I'd still toss tyus that $14mil in capspace. And we'd even have the exemption leftover. We definitely have a ton of depth this year

I'm starting to think it is indeed possible that Tyus takes a smaller deal money for one year somewhere (perhaps with a player option for year two) so he can re-enter the FA market in 12 months. With only Detroit and Utah having money left to spend and Washington seemingly not having much interest either it seems like his market has dried up.

One concern for sure is that on many of the advanced stats when I look at the lowest ranked defenders near the bottom with Ivey is often Tyus as well.

[theBigLip]

I’m curious what’s going on behind the scenes.
- what is Tyus thinking?
- what is Okoro thinking?
- what is the Pelicans front office thinking?
- did the Lakes/Bucks just give up?

[chrbal]

I wonder what the market actually is for Tyus.

He’s a starter on a bad team, bench guy on a good one. He seems like one of those guys who needed to convince the right team right away. I’d still give him an above mid level two year contract (second year a player option) and have him be a bridge guy. A glue guy until we can get a better long term fit.

I agree as far as role goes.

I just wonder what teams are considering him, who’s made him an offer (and at what price/term) and what he’s waiting for?

That’s fair. I basically want the Pistons to add a decent point guard who can play a bigger role randomly. I just don’t want to see Detroit add someone like Fultz or Dinwiddie. If those are my options, I’d just try to make it work with what we have.

I’m curious what’s going on behind the scenes.
- what is Tyus thinking?
- what is Okoro thinking?
- what is the Pelicans front office thinking?
- did the Lakes/Bucks just give up?

1- don’t think he has the market he thought he had.

2- feels like the Cavs are waiting to see if anyone makes an offer or just sign him the Q.O this year.

3- not a clue

4- Lakers struck out hard. Feels like they’re about to sell their fans on Trent Jr and a series of bargain bin players. A press conference introducing Osman, Marcus Morris and Trent Jr to their fans feels like it’s on the way.

[bstein14]

I’m curious what’s going on behind the scenes.
- what is Tyus thinking?
- what is Okoro thinking?
- what is the Pelicans front office thinking?
- did the Lakes/Bucks just give up?

Pelicans are in a similar situation as the Raptors were with OG... they ended up not wanting to pay OG the max and instead traded for a few young guys from the Knicks. Knicks were forced to max OG.

Pelicans can wait until as long as the trade deadline, but if they aren't willing to max him some team with cap space will max him for sure next summer. I'm not sure his value goes up much unless a team at the deadline feels like they are a BI away from winning a chmpionship and goes all-in. Several teams in that position really don't have the room to max BI without going deep into the tax/aprons.