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Post#101 » by Celticlifer » Thu Jul 11, 2024 12:17 pm

The joke is that the one player in the NBA most like kawhii is Jaylen. Their games are practically identical. So they lose Kawhii and suddenly they need another guard who fits in, lol.
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Post#102 » by 31to6 » Thu Jul 11, 2024 12:46 pm

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I’d bet a lot of team USA would appreciate a Horford for Embiid swap :)
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Post#103 » by BK_2020 » Thu Jul 11, 2024 12:48 pm

Celticlifer wrote:The joke is that the one player in the NBA most like kawhii is Jaylen. Their games are practically identical. So they lose Kawhii and suddenly they need another guard who fits in, lol.

Kawhi is bigger, stronger, and better. Significantly, in every area of the game. You can't just plug Jaylen Brown into Kawhi's role and expect the same results. It's like thinking Dario Saric should replace Jokic because Saric can shoot some and pass some. If a player like Kawhi is out, the coach should adjust the gameplan, not plug in a Dollar General Kawhi and ask him to deliver like Kawhi.
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Post#104 » by cloverleaf » Thu Jul 11, 2024 12:54 pm

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I’d bet a lot of team USA would appreciate a Horford for Embiid swap :)


Horford's not American, but I think it is KD who most likely needs to be replaced. With 2 of the C's top 6 players being international, to avoid JB they'd next have to dip down to Sammy Parade Buckets--and that's not happening. (Though if it did, it would be hysterical.)
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Post#105 » by Sweet Serenity » Thu Jul 11, 2024 1:16 pm

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Celticlifer wrote:The joke is that the one player in the NBA most like kawhii is Jaylen. Their games are practically identical. So they lose Kawhii and suddenly they need another guard who fits in, lol.

Kawhi is bigger, stronger, and better. Significantly, in every area of the game. You can't just plug Jaylen Brown into Kawhi's role and expect the same results. It's like thinking Dario Saric should replace Jokic because Saric can shoot some and pass some. If a player like Kawhi is out, the coach should adjust the gameplan, not plug in a Dollar General Kawhi and ask him to deliver like Kawhi.


Comparing the gap between Jokic & Saric as the same as Kawhi & Brown just earns you dumbest comment of the year, congrats !

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Post#106 » by shackles10 » Thu Jul 11, 2024 1:58 pm

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Curmudgeon wrote:Derrick White is a better player, just not as athletic.
White is a better player than JB? Really?

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I get the snub angle for JB, but at this point so close to the games it's probably more about fit than who's the better player. They're trying to win gold, not pick an all-star team. Normally we try to do both, but the gap has shrunk in talent internationally. White can also come in and play his normal role with no adjustment.
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Post#107 » by BK_2020 » Thu Jul 11, 2024 2:03 pm

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I’d bet a lot of team USA would appreciate a Horford for Embiid swap :)

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Post#108 » by Fencer reregistered » Thu Jul 11, 2024 3:50 pm

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I’d bet a lot of team USA would appreciate a Horford for Embiid swap :)


Horford's not American, but I think it is KD who most likely needs to be replaced. With 2 of the C's top 6 players being international, to avoid JB they'd next have to dip down to Sammy Parade Buckets--and that's not happening. (Though if it did, it would be hysterical.)


Yeah. I think Horford represented the DR at some point, making him ineligible for Team USA.
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Post#109 » by Fencer reregistered » Thu Jul 11, 2024 3:51 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:It's been only one game, but Embiid looks more like a situational player. The situation being team is leading by 40+ heading into the 4th.


How about the situation being Jokic is on the other team?
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Post#110 » by shackles10 » Thu Jul 11, 2024 3:57 pm

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ConstableGeneva wrote:It's been only one game, but Embiid looks more like a situational player. The situation being team is leading by 40+ heading into the 4th.


How about the situation being Jokic is on the other team?


Still think I'd rather have AD and Bam. Embiid on offense was just standing around. On defense he was just fouling like crazy. Bam and AD both more active on defense and picking up guys at the 3 point line and Bam was cutting a lot on offense and getting easy dump offs that would put Jokic into action and tire him out as well. AD much quicker decision making than Embiid and more active as well. Of course this is all just a one game sample size though.
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Post#111 » by Fierce1 » Thu Jul 11, 2024 4:08 pm

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ConstableGeneva wrote:It's been only one game, but Embiid looks more like a situational player. The situation being team is leading by 40+ heading into the 4th.


How about the situation being Jokic is on the other team?


Still think I'd rather have AD and Bam. Embiid on offense was just standing around. On defense he was just fouling like crazy. Bam and AD both more active on defense and picking up guys at the 3 point line and Bam was cutting a lot on offense and getting easy dump offs that would put Jokic into action and tire him out as well. AD much quicker decision making than Embiid and more active as well. Of course this is all just a one game sample size though.

Just remember AD rejected the Celtics in 2019.
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Post#112 » by shackles10 » Thu Jul 11, 2024 4:19 pm

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How about the situation being Jokic is on the other team?


Still think I'd rather have AD and Bam. Embiid on offense was just standing around. On defense he was just fouling like crazy. Bam and AD both more active on defense and picking up guys at the 3 point line and Bam was cutting a lot on offense and getting easy dump offs that would put Jokic into action and tire him out as well. AD much quicker decision making than Embiid and more active as well. Of course this is all just a one game sample size though.

Just remember AD rejected the Celtics in 2019.


Right, but I'm ok with it. #1 him coming would mean Kyrie would still be here. I'm more than ok with moving on from Kyrie even if it was ugly at the time. #2 it's not like Embiid is our best friend and I slighted our homie by saying I'd rather have AD or Bam getting the majority of the center minutes. Put Lebron, KD (if/when healthy) and Tatum at the 4. They're plenty big enough to play there in the Olympics especially. #3 Bam, himself, literally rejected us in 2020 on their way to the bubble Finals so why just bring up AD?
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Post#113 » by Fierce1 » Thu Jul 11, 2024 4:23 pm

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Still think I'd rather have AD and Bam. Embiid on offense was just standing around. On defense he was just fouling like crazy. Bam and AD both more active on defense and picking up guys at the 3 point line and Bam was cutting a lot on offense and getting easy dump offs that would put Jokic into action and tire him out as well. AD much quicker decision making than Embiid and more active as well. Of course this is all just a one game sample size though.

Just remember AD rejected the Celtics in 2019.


Right, but I'm ok with it. #1 him coming would mean Kyrie would still be here. I'm more than ok with moving on from Kyrie even if it was ugly at the time. #2 it's not like Embiid is our best friend and I slighted our homie by saying I'd rather have AD or Bam getting the majority of the center minutes. Put Lebron, KD (if/when healthy) and Tatum at the 4. They're plenty big enough to play there in the Olympics especially. #3 Bam, himself, literally rejected us in 2020 on their way to the bubble Finals so why just bring up AD?

Bam and JT are friends.

I think there's a real chance Bam ends up playing for the Cs at some point in his career.
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Post#114 » by shackles10 » Thu Jul 11, 2024 4:36 pm

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Fierce1 wrote:Just remember AD rejected the Celtics in 2019.


Right, but I'm ok with it. #1 him coming would mean Kyrie would still be here. I'm more than ok with moving on from Kyrie even if it was ugly at the time. #2 it's not like Embiid is our best friend and I slighted our homie by saying I'd rather have AD or Bam getting the majority of the center minutes. Put Lebron, KD (if/when healthy) and Tatum at the 4. They're plenty big enough to play there in the Olympics especially. #3 Bam, himself, literally rejected us in 2020 on their way to the bubble Finals so why just bring up AD?

Bam and JT are friends.

I think there's a real chance Bam ends up playing for the Cs at some point in his career.


He's probably the best Al replacement out there. Not the shooter Al is, but defensively for sure and does other things on offense Al doesn't do as well. I think Miami will just keep resigning him for more than anyone can offer and we'll never have cap space to do anything about it. Unless the Heat tank, he wants out, and we're even allowed to make the trade (i.e. we're out of the 2nd apron and can aggregate salaries) I don't see it happening. Also Riley and Spo would both have to be deceased beforehand because they'd never trade him to Boston lol.
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Post#115 » by Fierce1 » Thu Jul 11, 2024 4:44 pm

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Right, but I'm ok with it. #1 him coming would mean Kyrie would still be here. I'm more than ok with moving on from Kyrie even if it was ugly at the time. #2 it's not like Embiid is our best friend and I slighted our homie by saying I'd rather have AD or Bam getting the majority of the center minutes. Put Lebron, KD (if/when healthy) and Tatum at the 4. They're plenty big enough to play there in the Olympics especially. #3 Bam, himself, literally rejected us in 2020 on their way to the bubble Finals so why just bring up AD?

Bam and JT are friends.

I think there's a real chance Bam ends up playing for the Cs at some point in his career.


He's probably the best Al replacement out there. Not the shooter Al is, but defensively for sure and does other things on offense Al doesn't do as well. I think Miami will just keep resigning him for more than anyone can offer and we'll never have cap space to do anything about it. Unless the Heat tank, he wants out, and we're even allowed to make the trade (i.e. we're out of the 2nd apron and can aggregate salaries) I don't see it happening. Also Riley and Spo would both have to be deceased beforehand because they'd never trade him to Boston lol.

No trade, just sign with Boston.

But this will be in the 2030s.
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Post#116 » by Fencer reregistered » Thu Jul 11, 2024 4:48 pm

Fierce1 wrote:
shackles10 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:Just remember AD rejected the Celtics in 2019.


Right, but I'm ok with it. #1 him coming would mean Kyrie would still be here. I'm more than ok with moving on from Kyrie even if it was ugly at the time. #2 it's not like Embiid is our best friend and I slighted our homie by saying I'd rather have AD or Bam getting the majority of the center minutes. Put Lebron, KD (if/when healthy) and Tatum at the 4. They're plenty big enough to play there in the Olympics especially. #3 Bam, himself, literally rejected us in 2020 on their way to the bubble Finals so why just bring up AD?

Bam and JT are friends.

I think there's a real chance Bam ends up playing for the Cs at some point in his career.


JT seems at least as friendly with Embiid.

Embiid could easily wind up here at some point if he ages more slowly than Porzingis.
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Post#117 » by Fierce1 » Thu Jul 11, 2024 4:49 pm

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Right, but I'm ok with it. #1 him coming would mean Kyrie would still be here. I'm more than ok with moving on from Kyrie even if it was ugly at the time. #2 it's not like Embiid is our best friend and I slighted our homie by saying I'd rather have AD or Bam getting the majority of the center minutes. Put Lebron, KD (if/when healthy) and Tatum at the 4. They're plenty big enough to play there in the Olympics especially. #3 Bam, himself, literally rejected us in 2020 on their way to the bubble Finals so why just bring up AD?

Bam and JT are friends.

I think there's a real chance Bam ends up playing for the Cs at some point in his career.


JT seems at least as friendly with Embiid.

Embiid could easily wind up here at some point if he ages more slowly than Porzingis.

That would be so unfair. :lol:
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