Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5

[HotelVitale]

Dowtin given our 3rd and final 2-way deal.

I don’t like Dowtin’s game but I get the move. He’s a two way who could conceivably play backup pg for a few weeks at a time and not kill us, if things get dicey this year with injuries etc. Two ways usually aren’t going to be able to do that and I like it fine as insurance. Less about development than having a backup to the bench.

I really really wish he could see more of the floor than what comes across his view as he hunts shots, though.

[Ben]

Would really like us to sign a big wing that could play the 4 soon.

I feel the opposite. I feel like there aren't a lot of great options at the minimum right now. I'd rather they go for the big wing at the deadline using KJ's salary and draft capital.

For now, I hope they sign the best guys they can at the minimum, regardless of position.

I'm with you for sure: go for the big forward at the deadline.

I won't be upset if we bring back Marcus Morris, only b/c he's a crafty vet, brings experience, can nettle other teams' bigs, etc.

That said, I bristled every time he was on the court last season. With the exception of a very few "hot hand" games-- most of which the Sixers lost, or won in blowouts, so that Morris's contributions didn't really matter-- he justified my dislike. He hasn't helped good teams win close games.

Cedi Osman is vaguely OK, but mostly has had a negative impact.

JT Thor has had terrible regular AND advanced stats during his relatively few minutes. He might be a decent development project, but he seems very unlikely to make a positive impact soon on a contending team.

I might be interested in Gallinari for the vet minimum, if he's adjusted to his post-torn-ACL body, or to Gordon Hayward if he's willing to take the minimum. Would probably be most OK with RoCo if the team doctors feel that he can play any kind of minutes, because he's now a crafty vet as well as a tough SOB who-- if he's healthy enough to play-- can at least defend the 4 and hit open 3s.

But what I'm getting at, and what's implicit in your post, is that the big forwards available now are almost certain NOT to move the needle.

We'll get who we get to finish out the roster, but getting someone who's gonna positively impact a title push is going to require a deadline trade or possibly a post-deadline buyout guy.

[Kolkmania]

It would probably be Marcus Morris, and while he shot well last season (and even had decent rebounding numbers), but I am certainly not his biggest fan...

Feels like we're still a little light on playmaking/passing, so Hayward could certainly have a defined role here to stabilize groups when one or both of Maxey and George are on the bench. There's an easy 20-25 MPG to grab for him, I don't see a lot of other contenders being able to offer him that kind of role?

Cedi Osman and Oshae Brissett are probably my two favorite remaining players. Osman a hard-nosed big wing with a quick trigger, while Brissett is a relatively young rebouding forward with a decent handle. Perhaps a bit too similar to KJ Martin, but he's a bit bigger and I'd reckon that we're planning to trade him anyway.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

So Dowtin, Edwards, and David Jones get the 2-ways.
I understand it I guess. I would have rather seen Mintz over Dowtin, but it makes sense. David Jones is the one I'm really rooting for. He's a long shot for the league, but the guy can score in his sleep. I hope he gets an opportunity. In fact, I hope we find another gem.

[mjkvol]

Of the players we might realistically be able to get on a vet min, the only one who really interests me is Hayward, but that might just be that I''ve always liked him as a player and hope we get a semblance of what he was. If he can give us 15 and occasionally 20 minutes a night, he is the best bench big option out there. I wouldn't object at all to bringing Osman in as well.

[PhillyNj]

Morey has had a fantastic off season.
I’m happy Dowtin signed, He’s a great third string point guard.
Still two more guys, to come.
Marcus Morris would be my first choice.
Precious Achiuwa a close second.
Lonnie WalkerIV as the last guard would be a good choice
Hayward would be my last option.(he was a good player, a long time ago)

[LeonJordanJr24]

Morris Sr and David Nwora 6'8 wing with offensive skill .

[ivysixer2000]

I see alot of people mentioning trading KJ Martin, what would we expect to be able to get for him plus a pick or 2? The picks would be worth more than him IMO, unless he learns how to shoot this summer (doubtful, but then we would probably want to keep him).

[PhillyFan11]

I see alot of people mentioning trading KJ Martin, what would we expect to be able to get for him plus a pick or 2? The picks would be worth more than him IMO, unless he learns how to shoot this summer (doubtful, but then we would probably want to keep him).

KJ will be pure salary filler with little to no added value. Unless he drastically improves he’ll be a free agent again next off season looking for another team. No one is looking to pay him $8M the following year.

[zaz102]

I see alot of people mentioning trading KJ Martin, what would we expect to be able to get for him plus a pick or 2? The picks would be worth more than him IMO, unless he learns how to shoot this summer (doubtful, but then we would probably want to keep him).

They have the luxury of looking at the roster since they can't trade him until January anyway. You could combine him with vet minimum players for up to $15M. They also have some decent assets that could fetch then a high end role player.

Considering they're already paying a big three, I don't think they'll be targeting any potential big contract players (e.g. Markkanen).

So you're looking at playoff contributing players. Ideally a PF based on the team on paper right now, but that could change.

Some names to consider DFS, Eason, Kispert, Vanderbilt, Cody Martin, maybe Kuminga just for the end of the year, maybe Portis if Bucks flame out

[Arsenal]

Of the players we might realistically be able to get on a vet min, the only one who really interests me is Hayward, but that might just be that I''ve always liked him as a player and hope we get a semblance of what he was. If he can give us 15 and occasionally 20 minutes a night, he is the best bench big option out there. I wouldn't object at all to bringing Osman in as well.

Charlotte Hayward would be great. OKC Hayward not so much. He looked completely washed there, but maybe it was because he was recovering from an injury (as always).

[FireMorey]

Embiid said the best cheesesteak is a Subway cheesesteak.

I've changed my mind, he needs to be traded.

[AI_Efficiency]

Embiid said the best cheesesteak is a Subway cheesesteak.

I've changed my mind, he needs to be traded.

Yes, absolutely awful opinion. The Wawa ones are fine if we are talking like mass produced chains, but anywhere local is going to be way better than either.

[FlyingArrow]

Embiid said the best cheesesteak is a Subway cheesesteak.

I've changed my mind, he needs to be traded.

Subway has a cheesesteak?

[youngcrev]

Embiid said the best cheesesteak is a Subway cheesesteak.

I've changed my mind, he needs to be traded.

Yes, absolutely awful opinion. The Wawa ones are fine if we are talking like mass produced chains, but anywhere local is going to be way better than either.

I'm not really a big cheese steak guy anymore, but gimme a Primos cheese steak over the vast majority local spots. It's all about that roll.

I wouldn't dare order a Wawa or Subway cheese steak.

[FireMorey]

Embiid said the best cheesesteak is a Subway cheesesteak.

I've changed my mind, he needs to be traded.

Subway has a cheesesteak?

If you wanna call it that.

[PhillyFan11]

Embiid said the best cheesesteak is a Subway cheesesteak.

I've changed my mind, he needs to be traded.

Yes, absolutely awful opinion. The Wawa ones are fine if we are talking like mass produced chains, but anywhere local is going to be way better than either.

There’s no way that wasn’t a Troel comment. He must be bored and purposely trying to get a reaction

[Stanford]

Guys, he's clearly trolling there. Got your asses.

[SixthStreet]

Fultz is the best player of the slim pickings in FA left. Doesn't seem like we need another G but he could play in lineups with 4 shooters effectively, say with Maxey, Martin, George, and Embiid.

He could function as a Melton-ish replacement, with less shooting and more playmaking. His defense has been good and he's been switchable to larger players because of his wingspan.

[HotelVitale]

Fultz is the best player of the slim pickings in FA left. Doesn't seem like we need another G but he could play in lineups with 4 shooters effectively, say with Maxey, Martin, George, and Embiid.

He could function as a Melton-ish replacement, with less shooting and more playmaking. His defense has been good and he's been switchable to larger players because of his wingspan.

My impression of Fultz is that he more or less isn’t a good player when you’re not really trying to believe he is. His playmaking numbers look okay because he was literally the only PG on ORL’s roster for a few years and got to bring the ball up and play to his strengths (transition in particular), but he doesn’t have very good vision or a great pnr game or anything. He plays hard and attacks a lot but isn’t all that good at converting that into good shots for himself or his teammates, certainly not well enough that it’s a standout skill that keeps him on the floor. And his shooting isn’t just not a strength—he doesn’t shoot 3s unless he’s wide open and still isn’t good at those, and teams absolutely don’t respect his jumper one bit. If you remember how Thybulle messed up spacing and killed a lot of plays by getting passed a ball no one really wanted him to shoot, Fultz isn’t far from that. And he’s a point guard.

He’s also a nice but particularly great defender, just tries hard. Again not great enough at it to be the reason he’s out there. Altogether I think he’s just never been a real NBA rotation guy—a solid defender who can attack but not score that well, bring the ball up but not distribute that well, and also kills your spacing from the worst position to do that from. I’ve never understood him, always thought it was just people trying to be positive and wanting him to succeed (which I’ve been guilty of myself).