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Post#2121 » by Wildcat » Tue Jul 23, 2024 12:00 am

moocow007 wrote:Was watching some YouTube vids of Sengun and this particular vid immediately brought up an interesting fact about Sengun and his numbers (includes our frenemy Julius Randle). That pic they used of Randle lol. But this is an interesting take on Sengun.



I like him, but not at Randle's expense. To me, he's like an upgraded I-Hart. I'm not worried about his D, either. His D would be solid with people like Bridges and OG out there. This video has been my thought process regarding his D and overall outlook in Houston when it was mentioned a few weeks ago that he might be moved.
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Post#2122 » by Knick4Real » Tue Jul 23, 2024 12:08 am

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3toheadmelo wrote:Some people just hate Randle so much they would want to make the Knicks worse just so Randle isn’t here.


Can’t help but wonder why that is. I don’t think they’re genuinely mad about the thumbs down or the slapping laptop thing, both from years ago now. Could be because their favorite kid(many examples) got moved instead of him. But I think more than anything they just don’t want to be wrong after everything they’ve said about him over the years. If we ever did win the championship with him on the roster, I’m quitting work and taking an entire summer off to pull receipts. So they can’t even root for us to win. Sad!


Eh, truth be told, I feel like the same could be said about Randle fans too. Don't you guys want to be right about everything you've said about Randle, after all that time? Now that we're a team gunning for a championship, there's no more washing over his mistakes or making excuses for him or whatever. It's not about the thumbs down or the Obi or whatever. It's basically this: Now that we are seeking a championship, Julius Randle is a risk.

Randle has been here since 2019. This is more than enough time to establish who he is as a player, that he can contribute to a championship team. Jalen Brunson came for 2 years and settled all doubts. By this time, the truth of the matter is, Julius Randle should be more celebrated than Jalen Brunson, who showed up two seasons ago. He really should be the franchise guy by now. He had an awesome 2020-2021 season and brought us to the playoffs, when we were down. He really was the first one to take a discounted contract, before Brunson did it. At the end of the 2020-2021 season, Julius Randle basically had the path laid out for him to be the MAN.

We can blame a lot of factors for why his trajectory got derailed, like injury, mental health, him having a baby, teammates, fans booing him, or whatever, but the truth of the matter is, after five years, it's on Randle. It's always been on Randle.


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Post#2123 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Tue Jul 23, 2024 12:10 am

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moocow007 wrote:Was watching some YouTube vids of Sengun and this particular vid immediately brought up an interesting fact about Sengun and his numbers (includes our frenemy Julius Randle). That pic they used of Randle lol. But this is an interesting take on Sengun.



I like him, but not at Randle's expense. To me, he's like an upgraded I-Hart. I'm not worried about his D, either. His D would be solid with people like Bridges and OG out there. This video has been my thought process regarding his D and overall outlook in Houston when it was mentioned a few weeks ago that he might be moved.


He's not available according to the Rocket's GM, so really nothing to worry about regarding Randle.
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Post#2124 » by robillionaire » Tue Jul 23, 2024 12:43 am

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3toheadmelo wrote:Some people just hate Randle so much they would want to make the Knicks worse just so Randle isn’t here.


Can’t help but wonder why that is. I don’t think they’re genuinely mad about the thumbs down or the slapping laptop thing, both from years ago now. Could be because their favorite kid(many examples) got moved instead of him. But I think more than anything they just don’t want to be wrong after everything they’ve said about him over the years. If we ever did win the championship with him on the roster, I’m quitting work and taking an entire summer off to pull receipts. So they can’t even root for us to win. Sad!


Eh, truth be told, I feel like the same could be said about Randle fans too. Don't you guys want to be right about everything you've said about Randle, after all that time? Now that we're a team gunning for a championship, there's no more washing over his mistakes or making excuses for him or whatever. It's not about the thumbs down or the Obi or whatever. It's basically this: Now that we are seeking a championship, Julius Randle is a risk.

Randle has been here since 2019. This is more than enough time to establish who he is as a player, that he can contribute to a championship team. Jalen Brunson came for 2 years and settled all doubts. By this time, the truth of the matter is, Julius Randle should be more celebrated than Jalen Brunson, who showed up two seasons ago. He really should be the franchise guy by now. He had an awesome 2020-2021 season and brought us to the playoffs, when we were down. He really was the first one to take a discounted contract, before Brunson did it. At the end of the 2020-2021 season, Julius Randle basically had the path laid out for him to be the MAN.

We can blame a lot of factors for why his trajectory got derailed, like injury, mental health, him having a baby, teammates, fans booing him, or whatever, but the truth of the matter is, after five years, it's on Randle. It's always been on Randle.


I wouldn’t even say his trajectory got derailed, it’s still a good trajectory, he was an all star last year and certainly would have been all-nba again until he got injured. I wish he didn’t get injured but what are you gonna do? I am very much hoping that he can finally get to the playoffs healthy next year unlike the past two seasons and bury some demons

Of course I’d like to be right about Randle but that actually coincides with a good outcome for the team which is my top priority. Which seeing as he’s made 3 all star teams I already feel vindicated and just ready for the final payoff when he plays well in the playoffs and we get a ring
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Post#2126 » by RHODEY » Tue Jul 23, 2024 12:47 am

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robillionaire wrote:
Can’t help but wonder why that is. I don’t think they’re genuinely mad about the thumbs down or the slapping laptop thing, both from years ago now. Could be because their favorite kid(many examples) got moved instead of him. But I think more than anything they just don’t want to be wrong after everything they’ve said about him over the years. If we ever did win the championship with him on the roster, I’m quitting work and taking an entire summer off to pull receipts. So they can’t even root for us to win. Sad!


Eh, truth be told, I feel like the same could be said about Randle fans too. Don't you guys want to be right about everything you've said about Randle, after all that time? Now that we're a team gunning for a championship, there's no more washing over his mistakes or making excuses for him or whatever. It's not about the thumbs down or the Obi or whatever. It's basically this: Now that we are seeking a championship, Julius Randle is a risk.

Randle has been here since 2019. This is more than enough time to establish who he is as a player, that he can contribute to a championship team. Jalen Brunson came for 2 years and settled all doubts. By this time, the truth of the matter is, Julius Randle should be more celebrated than Jalen Brunson, who showed up two seasons ago. He really should be the franchise guy by now. He had an awesome 2020-2021 season and brought us to the playoffs, when we were down. He really was the first one to take a discounted contract, before Brunson did it. At the end of the 2020-2021 season, Julius Randle basically had the path laid out for him to be the MAN.

We can blame a lot of factors for why his trajectory got derailed, like injury, mental health, him having a baby, teammates, fans booing him, or whatever, but the truth of the matter is, after five years, it's on Randle. It's always been on Randle.


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Post#2127 » by Jalen Bluntson » Tue Jul 23, 2024 12:55 am

robillionaire wrote:
KnicksGadfly wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
Can’t help but wonder why that is. I don’t think they’re genuinely mad about the thumbs down or the slapping laptop thing, both from years ago now. Could be because their favorite kid(many examples) got moved instead of him. But I think more than anything they just don’t want to be wrong after everything they’ve said about him over the years. If we ever did win the championship with him on the roster, I’m quitting work and taking an entire summer off to pull receipts. So they can’t even root for us to win. Sad!


Eh, truth be told, I feel like the same could be said about Randle fans too. Don't you guys want to be right about everything you've said about Randle, after all that time? Now that we're a team gunning for a championship, there's no more washing over his mistakes or making excuses for him or whatever. It's not about the thumbs down or the Obi or whatever. It's basically this: Now that we are seeking a championship, Julius Randle is a risk.

Randle has been here since 2019. This is more than enough time to establish who he is as a player, that he can contribute to a championship team. Jalen Brunson came for 2 years and settled all doubts. By this time, the truth of the matter is, Julius Randle should be more celebrated than Jalen Brunson, who showed up two seasons ago. He really should be the franchise guy by now. He had an awesome 2020-2021 season and brought us to the playoffs, when we were down. He really was the first one to take a discounted contract, before Brunson did it. At the end of the 2020-2021 season, Julius Randle basically had the path laid out for him to be the MAN.

We can blame a lot of factors for why his trajectory got derailed, like injury, mental health, him having a baby, teammates, fans booing him, or whatever, but the truth of the matter is, after five years, it's on Randle. It's always been on Randle.


I wouldn’t even say his trajectory got derailed, it’s still a good trajectory, he was an all star last year and certainly would have been all-nba again until he got injured. I wish he didn’t get injured but what are you gonna do? I am very much hoping that he can finally get to the playoffs healthy next year unlike the past two seasons and bury some demons

Of course I’d like to be right about Randle but that actually coincides with a good outcome for the team which is my top priority. Which seeing as he’s made 3 all star teams I already feel vindicated and just ready for the final payoff when he plays well in the playoffs and we get a ring


I hated his face for 3 years!! The last two seasons he has changed my stance. Last January I actually became a fan of his. That injury really killed what could have been a great season for him and the team. I want to see the team healthy with the added talent we have.

That said, I am not giving him 5/310 ever. Not at his point on his career. If he wants that deal, trade him and move on.
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Post#2128 » by robillionaire » Tue Jul 23, 2024 1:10 am

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KnicksGadfly wrote:
Eh, truth be told, I feel like the same could be said about Randle fans too. Don't you guys want to be right about everything you've said about Randle, after all that time? Now that we're a team gunning for a championship, there's no more washing over his mistakes or making excuses for him or whatever. It's not about the thumbs down or the Obi or whatever. It's basically this: Now that we are seeking a championship, Julius Randle is a risk.

Randle has been here since 2019. This is more than enough time to establish who he is as a player, that he can contribute to a championship team. Jalen Brunson came for 2 years and settled all doubts. By this time, the truth of the matter is, Julius Randle should be more celebrated than Jalen Brunson, who showed up two seasons ago. He really should be the franchise guy by now. He had an awesome 2020-2021 season and brought us to the playoffs, when we were down. He really was the first one to take a discounted contract, before Brunson did it. At the end of the 2020-2021 season, Julius Randle basically had the path laid out for him to be the MAN.

We can blame a lot of factors for why his trajectory got derailed, like injury, mental health, him having a baby, teammates, fans booing him, or whatever, but the truth of the matter is, after five years, it's on Randle. It's always been on Randle.


I wouldn’t even say his trajectory got derailed, it’s still a good trajectory, he was an all star last year and certainly would have been all-nba again until he got injured. I wish he didn’t get injured but what are you gonna do? I am very much hoping that he can finally get to the playoffs healthy next year unlike the past two seasons and bury some demons

Of course I’d like to be right about Randle but that actually coincides with a good outcome for the team which is my top priority. Which seeing as he’s made 3 all star teams I already feel vindicated and just ready for the final payoff when he plays well in the playoffs and we get a ring


I hated his face for 3 years!! The last two seasons he has changed my stance. Last January I actually became a fan of his. That injury really killed what could have been a great season for him and the team. I want to see the team healthy with the added talent we have.

That said, I am not giving him 5/310 ever. Not at his point on his career. If he wants that deal, trade him and move on.


I agree but seriously doubt he’d even ask for that

I am still worried about his shoulder injury as well and hope he can come back from that and is still able to train at full strength in the offseason and is ready for the start of the season. Last year he was still recovering from the ankle surgery for the first couple weeks and people lost their minds.
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Post#2129 » by KnixinSix » Tue Jul 23, 2024 1:12 am

RHODEY wrote:
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KnicksGadfly wrote:
Eh, truth be told, I feel like the same could be said about Randle fans too. Don't you guys want to be right about everything you've said about Randle, after all that time? Now that we're a team gunning for a championship, there's no more washing over his mistakes or making excuses for him or whatever. It's not about the thumbs down or the Obi or whatever. It's basically this: Now that we are seeking a championship, Julius Randle is a risk.

Randle has been here since 2019. This is more than enough time to establish who he is as a player, that he can contribute to a championship team. Jalen Brunson came for 2 years and settled all doubts. By this time, the truth of the matter is, Julius Randle should be more celebrated than Jalen Brunson, who showed up two seasons ago. He really should be the franchise guy by now. He had an awesome 2020-2021 season and brought us to the playoffs, when we were down. He really was the first one to take a discounted contract, before Brunson did it. At the end of the 2020-2021 season, Julius Randle basically had the path laid out for him to be the MAN.

We can blame a lot of factors for why his trajectory got derailed, like injury, mental health, him having a baby, teammates, fans booing him, or whatever, but the truth of the matter is, after five years, it's on Randle. It's always been on Randle.


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I would love to keep Randle but if his contract demands are too high give me 4 years of a 40% 3pt shooting 7 footer vs 1 more year of Randle than losing him for nothing.
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Post#2130 » by KnixinSix » Tue Jul 23, 2024 1:14 am

RHODEY wrote:
Knick4Real wrote:
KnicksGadfly wrote:
Eh, truth be told, I feel like the same could be said about Randle fans too. Don't you guys want to be right about everything you've said about Randle, after all that time? Now that we're a team gunning for a championship, there's no more washing over his mistakes or making excuses for him or whatever. It's not about the thumbs down or the Obi or whatever. It's basically this: Now that we are seeking a championship, Julius Randle is a risk.

Randle has been here since 2019. This is more than enough time to establish who he is as a player, that he can contribute to a championship team. Jalen Brunson came for 2 years and settled all doubts. By this time, the truth of the matter is, Julius Randle should be more celebrated than Jalen Brunson, who showed up two seasons ago. He really should be the franchise guy by now. He had an awesome 2020-2021 season and brought us to the playoffs, when we were down. He really was the first one to take a discounted contract, before Brunson did it. At the end of the 2020-2021 season, Julius Randle basically had the path laid out for him to be the MAN.

We can blame a lot of factors for why his trajectory got derailed, like injury, mental health, him having a baby, teammates, fans booing him, or whatever, but the truth of the matter is, after five years, it's on Randle. It's always been on Randle.


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I think Knicks can absolutely win with a team oriented Randle like he showed big time post OG before his injury. However that might not be he main issue, the main issue could very well be his contract demands.
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Post#2131 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Tue Jul 23, 2024 1:22 am

KnixinSix wrote:
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Knick4Real wrote:
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Right before he went down we were celebrating him because he was playing his best ball . Now we've added even more talent to the mix. More players that will spread the floor even more for him. It only gets better from here


I would love to keep Randle but if his contract demands are too high give me 4 years of a 40% 3pt shooting 7 footer vs 1 more year of Randle than losing him for nothing.


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Post#2132 » by Davis18 » Tue Jul 23, 2024 1:27 am

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robillionaire wrote:
KnicksGadfly wrote:
Eh, truth be told, I feel like the same could be said about Randle fans too. Don't you guys want to be right about everything you've said about Randle, after all that time? Now that we're a team gunning for a championship, there's no more washing over his mistakes or making excuses for him or whatever. It's not about the thumbs down or the Obi or whatever. It's basically this: Now that we are seeking a championship, Julius Randle is a risk.

Randle has been here since 2019. This is more than enough time to establish who he is as a player, that he can contribute to a championship team. Jalen Brunson came for 2 years and settled all doubts. By this time, the truth of the matter is, Julius Randle should be more celebrated than Jalen Brunson, who showed up two seasons ago. He really should be the franchise guy by now. He had an awesome 2020-2021 season and brought us to the playoffs, when we were down. He really was the first one to take a discounted contract, before Brunson did it. At the end of the 2020-2021 season, Julius Randle basically had the path laid out for him to be the MAN.

We can blame a lot of factors for why his trajectory got derailed, like injury, mental health, him having a baby, teammates, fans booing him, or whatever, but the truth of the matter is, after five years, it's on Randle. It's always been on Randle.


I wouldn’t even say his trajectory got derailed, it’s still a good trajectory, he was an all star last year and certainly would have been all-nba again until he got injured. I wish he didn’t get injured but what are you gonna do? I am very much hoping that he can finally get to the playoffs healthy next year unlike the past two seasons and bury some demons

Of course I’d like to be right about Randle but that actually coincides with a good outcome for the team which is my top priority. Which seeing as he’s made 3 all star teams I already feel vindicated and just ready for the final payoff when he plays well in the playoffs and we get a ring


I hated his face for 3 years!! The last two seasons he has changed my stance. Last January I actually became a fan of his. That injury really killed what could have been a great season for him and the team. I want to see the team healthy with the added talent we have.

That said, I am not giving him 5/310 ever. Not at his point on his career. If he wants that deal, trade him and move on.



Randle is one of the best offensive PF in the game.
We definitely need more offense to ease the burden of Brunson.

The problem is he shrinks as going gets tough.
It was Derrick Rose who laid his body on the court vs. Atlanta.
Once Rose was done we were back in the lottery again.
Then comes the Miami series.. for me this series showed true color of player.
Please don't tell me about injury, seat your azz down if you can't even guard a traffic cone in playoffs.

We already have a lead guard who needs the ball.
We need ball movement with shot makers and defenders a la Golden State hey days.
I would not mind checking out the fit until trade deadline.
But this summer could be his highest value as asset.
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Post#2133 » by RHODEY » Tue Jul 23, 2024 2:32 am

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I wouldn’t even say his trajectory got derailed, it’s still a good trajectory, he was an all star last year and certainly would have been all-nba again until he got injured. I wish he didn’t get injured but what are you gonna do? I am very much hoping that he can finally get to the playoffs healthy next year unlike the past two seasons and bury some demons

Of course I’d like to be right about Randle but that actually coincides with a good outcome for the team which is my top priority. Which seeing as he’s made 3 all star teams I already feel vindicated and just ready for the final payoff when he plays well in the playoffs and we get a ring


I hated his face for 3 years!! The last two seasons he has changed my stance. Last January I actually became a fan of his. That injury really killed what could have been a great season for him and the team. I want to see the team healthy with the added talent we have.

That said, I am not giving him 5/310 ever. Not at his point on his career. If he wants that deal, trade him and move on.



Randle is one of the best offensive PF in the game.
We definitely need more offense to ease the burden of Brunson.

The problem is he shrinks as going gets tough.
It was Derrick Rose who laid his body on the court vs. Atlanta.
Once Rose was done we were back in the lottery again.
Then comes the Miami series.. for me this series showed true color of player.
Please don't tell me about injury, seat your azz down if you can't even guard a traffic cone in playoffs.

We already have a lead guard who needs the ball.
We need ball movement with shot makers and defenders a la Golden State hey days.
I would not mind checking out the fit until trade deadline.
But this summer could be his highest value as asset.


You wont get a better player than him. When it mattered Towns wilted like a rose in the Mohave desert. January Julius was a terror. At that time OG only just joined but his impact was tremendous. What to you think happens when we add Bridges to that? We will be unguardable. Julius will be unguardable.. L
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Post#2134 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Jul 23, 2024 7:13 am

RHODEY wrote:
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Jalen Bluntson wrote:
I hated his face for 3 years!! The last two seasons he has changed my stance. Last January I actually became a fan of his. That injury really killed what could have been a great season for him and the team. I want to see the team healthy with the added talent we have.

That said, I am not giving him 5/310 ever. Not at his point on his career. If he wants that deal, trade him and move on.



Randle is one of the best offensive PF in the game.
We definitely need more offense to ease the burden of Brunson.

The problem is he shrinks as going gets tough.
It was Derrick Rose who laid his body on the court vs. Atlanta.
Once Rose was done we were back in the lottery again.
Then comes the Miami series.. for me this series showed true color of player.
Please don't tell me about injury, seat your azz down if you can't even guard a traffic cone in playoffs.

We already have a lead guard who needs the ball.
We need ball movement with shot makers and defenders a la Golden State hey days.
I would not mind checking out the fit until trade deadline.
But this summer could be his highest value as asset.


You wont get a better player than him. When it mattered Towns wilted like a rose in the Mohave desert. January Julius was a terror. At that time OG only just joined but his impact was tremendous. What to you think happens when we add Bridges to that? We will be unguardable. Julius will be unguardable.. L


We have so many more pieces to go along with Randle now, it's crazy. Julius doesn't have to carry this team anymore. He just has to fit in and he'll be spectacular. The pressure if off him now. He can play free and easy. Forget about trading him. He would've been a 3-time All-NBA player had he not suffered the shoulder injury. We need to give this a rest.
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Post#2135 » by Context » Tue Jul 23, 2024 7:39 am

this Randle situation is something...especially for me because I haven't seen him play enough to really have a fair opinion of him.
With that said --I think that makes me the most objective. I can look at the team from a fit and need stand point and unfortunately-
Randle is the only asset that makes sense moving. If we are going to win it all we must strengthen our center position. Randle
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Post#2136 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Jul 23, 2024 7:51 am

Context wrote:this Randle situation is something...especially for me because I haven't seen him play enough to really have a fair opinion of him.
With that said --I think that makes me the most objective. I can look at the team from a fit and need stand point and unfortunately-
Randle is the only asset that makes sense moving. If we are going to win it all we must strengthen our center position. Randle
is a luxury from the big picture point of view.


12-2 in the first 14 games he, OG, and Brunson played together. Instant success. Now, we just picked up another player, Mikal, who makes Randle's life even easier. I like the fit. No other team in the EC has a PF who can handle Randle. He gives us a dimension that other teams don't have.
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Post#2137 » by Context » Tue Jul 23, 2024 9:14 am

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Context wrote:this Randle situation is something...especially for me because I haven't seen him play enough to really have a fair opinion of him.
With that said --I think that makes me the most objective. I can look at the team from a fit and need stand point and unfortunately-
Randle is the only asset that makes sense moving. If we are going to win it all we must strengthen our center position. Randle
is a luxury from the big picture point of view.


12-2 in the first 14 games he, OG, and Brunson played together. Instant success. Now, we just picked up another player, Mikal, who makes Randle's life even easier. I like the fit. No other team in the EC has a PF who can handle Randle. He gives us a dimension that other teams don't have.

We had a center we could count on during that stretch...Wingo...you didnt mention anything about center there...We have to have the center position filled - its a weakness we cant ignore IF we want to win it all. Can Randle guard Embiid?
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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#2138 » by Juco24 » Tue Jul 23, 2024 10:33 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Context wrote:this Randle situation is something...especially for me because I haven't seen him play enough to really have a fair opinion of him.
With that said --I think that makes me the most objective. I can look at the team from a fit and need stand point and unfortunately-
Randle is the only asset that makes sense moving. If we are going to win it all we must strengthen our center position. Randle
is a luxury from the big picture point of view.


12-2 in the first 14 games he, OG, and Brunson played together. Instant success. Now, we just picked up another player, Mikal, who makes Randle's life even easier. I like the fit. No other team in the EC has a PF who can handle Randle. He gives us a dimension that other teams don't have.


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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#2139 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Jul 23, 2024 10:35 am

Context wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Context wrote:this Randle situation is something...especially for me because I haven't seen him play enough to really have a fair opinion of him.
With that said --I think that makes me the most objective. I can look at the team from a fit and need stand point and unfortunately-
Randle is the only asset that makes sense moving. If we are going to win it all we must strengthen our center position. Randle
is a luxury from the big picture point of view.


12-2 in the first 14 games he, OG, and Brunson played together. Instant success. Now, we just picked up another player, Mikal, who makes Randle's life even easier. I like the fit. No other team in the EC has a PF who can handle Randle. He gives us a dimension that other teams don't have.

We had a center we could count on during that stretch...Wingo...you didnt mention anything about center there...We have to have the center position filled - its a weakness we cant ignore IF we want to win it all. Can Randle guard Embiid?

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Re: Trades and Transactions thread cont - we still need a center 

Post#2140 » by KnicksGadfly » Tue Jul 23, 2024 11:32 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Context wrote:this Randle situation is something...especially for me because I haven't seen him play enough to really have a fair opinion of him.
With that said --I think that makes me the most objective. I can look at the team from a fit and need stand point and unfortunately-
Randle is the only asset that makes sense moving. If we are going to win it all we must strengthen our center position. Randle
is a luxury from the big picture point of view.


12-2 in the first 14 games he, OG, and Brunson played together. Instant success. Now, we just picked up another player, Mikal, who makes Randle's life even easier. I like the fit. No other team in the EC has a PF who can handle Randle. He gives us a dimension that other teams don't have.


I think if you’re gonna use a 14 game sample size then you should acknowledge all the doubts that have accumulated from the previous years.

As in, you know, Julius Randle showed a lot of issues with defense, leadership, effort, playoff failures, clutch play and selfishness with the Knicks these past few years, but based upon a 14 game sample size last year after OG was traded to our team, all my doubts have been dispelled and I choose to believe that he has magically turned the corner.

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