2024 Olympic BASKETBALL Thread (Pt.3)

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Re: 2024 Olympic BASKETBALL Thread (Pt.3) 

Post#481 » by JasonStern » Wed Jul 31, 2024 12:27 am

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bisme37 wrote:The USA women's 3x3 team is pro WNBA players and they lost their first game today too, to Germany.

If the Germany team is a dedicated 3X3 team then that makes all the difference in that sport
It requires a different type of teamwork, you can't expect to blitz it based on skill alone


Facts. Even if the NBA sent their guys to the 3x3 comp, they'd have to choose wisely. Of course, LBJ, KD, AD, and Ant would destroy the comp, but if they send random dudes, they have to know what they're doing.


The 5x5 team members would be off limits for load reasons. But there is no logical reason why Brunson, Brown, etc. couldn't play in the 3x3 league. A let down for not making the A-squad? Sure. But you're still representing your country and competing for a medal in basketball. Instead, we just get "what the hell am I watching?" TV material.
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Post#484 » by bb22 » Wed Jul 31, 2024 1:16 am

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Pachinko_ wrote:If the Germany team is a dedicated 3X3 team then that makes all the difference in that sport
It requires a different type of teamwork, you can't expect to blitz it based on skill alone


Facts. Even if the NBA sent their guys to the 3x3 comp, they'd have to choose wisely. Of course, LBJ, KD, AD, and Ant would destroy the comp, but if they send random dudes, they have to know what they're doing.


The 5x5 team members would be off limits for load reasons. But there is no logical reason why Brunson, Brown, etc. couldn't play in the 3x3 league. A let down for not making the A-squad? Sure. But you're still representing your country and competing for a medal in basketball. Instead, we just get "what the hell am I watching?" TV material.


That’s a good point. Go get a gold and play more of a pickup type of game. I think it gains popularity with the pros. 2028 in LA seems like a great opportunity. Would be even better if they picked 3 guys that already play together. Since you mentioned Brunson: Brunson, Hart, Anunoby, Randle
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Post#485 » by Pachinko_ » Wed Jul 31, 2024 1:26 am

3Χ3 is an awesome game if they take it seriously
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Post#486 » by Shock Defeat » Wed Jul 31, 2024 1:31 am

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JasonStern wrote:Okay. What the hell is with USA's 3x3 team? No disrespect to Jimmer Fredette, but when he's the team's best player, you're going to get smoked by teams like Serbia.
I get it's not the main stage. But you could do a team like DeRozan/Ingram/McCollum/Grant and blow teams out. They end their careers with Olympic gold medals.


It doesn't work out like that. You need to participate in 3x3 events to be eligible.
Pro players would need to take a sabbatical,just for this competition, and that is not going to happen.


Well, that's a dumb rule that should be revoked. The 5x5 team consists of players that didn't play on the FIBA team. I've never heard of 3 of the players. Nobody wants to watch this team. But DeRozan/Ingram/McCollum/Grant playing street ball would be bad ass to watch. And if some swimmer can get 10 medals, they deserve the right to compete for one.
NBA should replace the All Star game with a 3x3 tournament. It would be a way to get these guys familiar with competitor 3x3 as a precursor to the Olympics.
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Post#487 » by knicksfan974 » Wed Jul 31, 2024 2:21 am

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Demagoog wrote:In 4 years Wembanyama might be the best player on the planet. If Risacher and Sarr can develop into nice complementary pieces and they get a half decent PG, they might pose a threat. I believe the projected #2 pick behind Cooper Flagg is a French point guard, maybe that'll be the answer. But right now, this team isn't frightening anybody.


They have the potential #1 of next year (yes potentially above Flagg) in Nolan Traore. And he is a PG. He'd probably be their best PG already but coaches have to reward the vets I guess thats why he isnt on the roster.

Look at what he's doing at 17 years old against a Euroleague team


He had completely dominated the best US prospects at the Nike Hoop Summit game too.


EDIT: Oh damn I answered after only reading your first sentence. Didnt see that you mentioned him yourself lol


Such an intriguing prospect, and everyone can see him play for Team France today as the U18 Eurobasket knockout round games begin: https://www.fiba.basketball/en/events/fiba-u18-eurobasket-2024. Also check out France's Noa Essengue, he's another french player currently ranked as a lottery pick in the next year's draft.
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Post#488 » by Pachinko_ » Wed Jul 31, 2024 2:57 am

Yeah in next 3-4 Olympics France will be a major force with peak Wemby, Traore, Risacher and Sarr, and I'm sure more will come in the future.
Maybe France is the new Spain.
Spain is actually having problems lately as their young talent are having trouble finding PT in their national league because it's super competitive and all coaches want to win now. France doesn't have that problem yet, their league is one tier below which is just perfect for young guys like Traore.
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Post#489 » by Wammy Giveaway » Wed Jul 31, 2024 3:39 am

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Jay 20 wrote:Based on what I'm seeing so far, Japan will beat Brazil pretty easily.


I wouldn't be so sure of that. Brazil has some good players and I think it's highly unlikely that Japan shoots like that again. I don't have the numbers, but it felt like their jumpers never missed.


I actually think Japan will be the odd team out. Despite having a one point lead in the differential, Brazil has a very good Olympics record:

Appearances (inc. current): 16 (Brazil) to 8 (Japan)
Furthest: Bronze match (Brazil) to Quarterfinals (Japan)
Medals: 3 Bronze (Brazil) to none (Japan)
Ranking: 3rd/Bronze or Average 6th in 15 visits (Brazil) to 9th place or Average 11th in 7 visits (Japan)
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Post#490 » by Lalouie » Wed Jul 31, 2024 6:46 am

phantom foul on the 3 shot strips a victory from japan

what a joke
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Post#491 » by lambchop » Wed Jul 31, 2024 7:37 am

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Facts. Even if the NBA sent their guys to the 3x3 comp, they'd have to choose wisely. Of course, LBJ, KD, AD, and Ant would destroy the comp, but if they send random dudes, they have to know what they're doing.


The 5x5 team members would be off limits for load reasons. But there is no logical reason why Brunson, Brown, etc. couldn't play in the 3x3 league. A let down for not making the A-squad? Sure. But you're still representing your country and competing for a medal in basketball. Instead, we just get "what the hell am I watching?" TV material.


That’s a good point. Go get a gold and play more of a pickup type of game. I think it gains popularity with the pros. 2028 in LA seems like a great opportunity. Would be even better if they picked 3 guys that already play together. Since you mentioned Brunson: Brunson, Hart, Anunoby, Randle


Anunoby is British, but, of course, the US could naturalize him like they did Embiid, if they really don't have any other competent players.

As for the "What the hell am I watching" TV, well, that's just the opinion of those who don't follow the game. Those who follow 3x3 are extremely happy for those players who have been working for years now to promote the game. They are essentially pros. Though they don't have fixed salaries, they earn all of their cash via prize money from the various tournaments they play in. Furthermore, they don't really have an off season. They just practice on week days and then participate in tournaments every other weekend for cash, similar to poker players.

Thus, it's awesome that they're getting rewarded for their year long commitment. That said, FIBA and bigger companies will see the financial potential when bringing in 5x5 pros. From merchandising to commercials, overall media coverage etc. It has to happen at some point imo.
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Post#492 » by garrick » Wed Jul 31, 2024 7:52 am



Japan was robbed!

Some blatant home cooking here to get the And 1 on zero contact by the defense.

This is why you foul if you're up by 4 although there was a little too much time on the clock here for my liking.
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Post#493 » by KyRo23 » Wed Jul 31, 2024 8:24 am

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Wait why do the exact points matter? How do the rules work that they would have to win by between 3-9? Like if they win by 10+, that wouldn't do it?
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Post#494 » by djw » Wed Jul 31, 2024 8:40 am

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Wait why do the exact points matter? How do the rules work that they would have to win by between 3-9? Like if they win by 10+, that wouldn't do it?

It would. The difference would be in the standings as Greece would finish 3rd if they win by 3 - 9 and 2nd if they win by 10+. Read the tweet again to the very end.
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Post#495 » by KyRo23 » Wed Jul 31, 2024 8:44 am

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Wait why do the exact points matter? How do the rules work that they would have to win by between 3-9? Like if they win by 10+, that wouldn't do it?

It would. The difference would be in the standings as Greece would finish 3rd if they win by 3 - 9 and 2nd if they win by 10+. Read the tweet again to the very end.


Yep I’m dumb, I hopped in at a random spot at that tweet and skimmed :lol:
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Post#496 » by Mamba81p » Wed Jul 31, 2024 9:17 am

bisme37 wrote:The USA women's 3x3 team is pro WNBA players and they lost their first game today too, to Germany.


They won gold the last time with wnba players.
This year's team seems to be weaker
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Post#497 » by durden_tyler » Wed Jul 31, 2024 10:46 am

Puerto Rican women’s team’s turn to whine about these FIBA refs— another soft bad foul called late in the game to give the win to Spain. LOL


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Post#498 » by Movics » Wed Jul 31, 2024 12:54 pm

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Post#500 » by Lakers In 5 » Wed Jul 31, 2024 3:23 pm

Jokic having a field day against Puerto Rico thus far.

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