The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2

[bigfoot]

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It’s crazy that there are still such ignorant people in the world today.

[Saberestar]

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I think he needs to do about the same next season for the Suns.

He is a much better player IMO when he stops trying to score on every possession. I know that he is a relentless scorer and he is primary an scorer but when he defends hard and plays team basketball on offense he goes to another level.

With KD and Beal on the team he can spend energy on defense and he needs to believe in his teammates on offense. It's a must for him to share the ball more than last year.

[Frank Lee]

Anyone catching some of this women’s olympic handball ? Crazy tough game

[garrick]

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I think he needs to do about the same next season for the Suns.

He is a much better player IMO when he stops trying to score on every possession. I know that he is a relentless scorer and he is primary an scorer but when he defends hard and plays team basketball on offense he goes to another level.

With KD and Beal on the team he can spend energy on defense and he needs to believe in his teammates on offense. It's a must for him to share the ball more than last year.

I want him to actively hunt 3's rather than him taking a 3 as a less desirable shot.

This is realistically the part of his game he could expand since he's not an athletic finisher but he could always hunt for more 3's as part of his offense and give up some of his middy game.

[DirtyDez]

Who plays the less minutes if everyone is healthy; Monte or Royce?

[dremill24]

Who plays the less minutes if everyone is healthy; Monte or Royce?

Gotta be Monte right? He has pretty limited roles/spots he can play, whereas Royce can shift around with a lot of different lineup combinations. I also think there could still be some lineups without a traditional point guard, to get guys like Allen and O'Neale on the floor more.

[Bogyo]

Who plays the less minutes if everyone is healthy; Monte or Royce?

Gotta be Monte right? He has pretty limited roles/spots he can play, whereas Royce can shift around with a lot of different lineup combinations. I also think there could still be some lineups without a traditional point guard, to get guys like Allen and O'Neale on the floor more.

For sure. If it was up to me, Royce would be starting with Tyus, Book, KD and Nurk. He could D up on the best opposing wing in the first 5-6 minutes to set the tone, pick up a foul (or two) if need be. But I don't think Beal is willing to come off the bench - nor the Suns would want to do that with his 50 mill contract.

[Puff]

Who plays the less minutes if everyone is healthy; Monte or Royce?

Gotta be Monte right? He has pretty limited roles/spots he can play, whereas Royce can shift around with a lot of different lineup combinations. I also think there could still be some lineups without a traditional point guard, to get guys like Allen and O'Neale on the floor more.

For sure. If it was up to me, Royce would be starting with Tyus, Book, KD and Nurk. He could D up on the best opposing wing in the first 5-6 minutes to set the tone, pick up a foul (or two) if need be. But I don't think Beal is willing to come off the bench - nor the Suns would want to do that with his 50 mill contract.

I am not a fan of Royce. I think he most likely will be moved at the trade deadline or sooner.

If and I know it is a big if, Dunn is able to shoot 30% + from three while providing the defense as advertised Royce will not be needed. Maybe Little will show a heartbeat with the new coach. I just am not a fan of Royce. He does not belong in the starting line up.

[lilfishi22]

Who plays the less minutes if everyone is healthy; Monte or Royce?

Monte

There's a redundancy of ball handlers with Jonee, Book and Beal whereas we're a bit shallow when it comes to wings, especially 3&D ones so Royce will play plenty

[Bogyo]

Gotta be Monte right? He has pretty limited roles/spots he can play, whereas Royce can shift around with a lot of different lineup combinations. I also think there could still be some lineups without a traditional point guard, to get guys like Allen and O'Neale on the floor more.

For sure. If it was up to me, Royce would be starting with Tyus, Book, KD and Nurk. He could D up on the best opposing wing in the first 5-6 minutes to set the tone, pick up a foul (or two) if need be. But I don't think Beal is willing to come off the bench - nor the Suns would want to do that with his 50 mill contract.

I am not a fan of Royce. I think he most likely will be moved at the trade deadline or sooner.

If and I know it is a big if, Dunn is able to shoot 30% + from three while providing the defense as advertised Royce will not be needed. Maybe Little will show a heartbeat with the new coach. I just am not a fan of Royce. He does not belong in the starting line up.

Wow, thats intresting to say the least. I mean its not like he is any favourite of mine, but I see what he brings to the table, and that he plays 3/4, which is a position sorely lacking on our team.
Also, not to be a debbiedowner, but there is no way in hell Dunn shoots 30% from 3 this season (on meaningful attempt numbers). Little is a known commodity by now, he is very unlikely to come in and do meaningfully better too... And while I get the idea of trading Royce, the problem with that is the same as with trading Nurk, ie: you have to bring in a guy who plays the same position, and is better and makes less money - those do not exists neither in the starting C nor the starting/first sub off the bench bigwing market, even if we attach the 31 first.

[Saberestar]

Who plays the less minutes if everyone is healthy; Monte or Royce?

Monte

There's a redundancy of ball handlers with Jonee, Book and Beal whereas we're a bit shallow when it comes to wings, especially 3&D ones so Royce will play plenty

Yeah, I think that Monte Morris and his agent didn't expect Tyus signing for the Suns.

With Tyus Jones on board Monte isn't needed for more than 15 mpg. Obviously he is a nice insurance for injuries and other stuff.

I think O'Neale will play less minutes than last year but he will surpass 20 mpg, probably between 20 and 25.

[sunsbg]

Royce will certainly get minutes. Dunn will probably continue the 3PT shooting trend - 20% in college, 10% in SL, 0% in RS(not play meaningful minutes). Monte may suddenly find playing time during preseason too.

[Saberestar]

Royce will certainly get minutes. Dunn will probably continue the 3PT shooting trend - 20% in college, 10% in SL, 0% in RS(not play meaningful minutes). Monte may suddenly find playing time during preseason too.

Step by step with Dunn.

Dunn has to earn his minutes and he will need to overplay Jalen Bridges, Little and Okogie to be on the court.

With Tyus on the roster every perimeter player will have fewer minutes available and that indirectly will affect Dunn at 3/4 positions...but that's a good thing for the team.

[dremill24]

Gotta be Monte right? He has pretty limited roles/spots he can play, whereas Royce can shift around with a lot of different lineup combinations. I also think there could still be some lineups without a traditional point guard, to get guys like Allen and O'Neale on the floor more.

For sure. If it was up to me, Royce would be starting with Tyus, Book, KD and Nurk. He could D up on the best opposing wing in the first 5-6 minutes to set the tone, pick up a foul (or two) if need be. But I don't think Beal is willing to come off the bench - nor the Suns would want to do that with his 50 mill contract.

I am not a fan of Royce. I think he most likely will be moved at the trade deadline or sooner.

If and I know it is a big if, Dunn is able to shoot 30% + from three while providing the defense as advertised Royce will not be needed. Maybe Little will show a heartbeat with the new coach. I just am not a fan of Royce. He does not belong in the starting line up.

I just dont think Dunn is getting any minutes this year...offense is too horrible.

[garrick]

Gotta be Monte right? He has pretty limited roles/spots he can play, whereas Royce can shift around with a lot of different lineup combinations. I also think there could still be some lineups without a traditional point guard, to get guys like Allen and O'Neale on the floor more.

For sure. If it was up to me, Royce would be starting with Tyus, Book, KD and Nurk. He could D up on the best opposing wing in the first 5-6 minutes to set the tone, pick up a foul (or two) if need be. But I don't think Beal is willing to come off the bench - nor the Suns would want to do that with his 50 mill contract.

I am not a fan of Royce. I think he most likely will be moved at the trade deadline or sooner.

If and I know it is a big if, Dunn is able to shoot 30% + from three while providing the defense as advertised Royce will not be needed. Maybe Little will show a heartbeat with the new coach. I just am not a fan of Royce. He does not belong in the starting line up.

Royce is pretty much Jae Crowder pt.2 for us, offense is purely from 3pt land and he struggles to score anywhere besides the 3pt line.

Can't really finish near the rim either so if we can find a way to ship him out and improve the front line I think we have to do it. Not really a fan of how small we are despite upgrading at the PG spot and teams will continue to punish us by playing big and physical.

[Saberestar]

Budenholzer and Nurkic together in Split.

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[sunsbg]

Coach and Nurk share time in the gym and Croatian beaches. KD and Book winning gold while playing in the City of love. Some special culture building this offseason.

[Qwigglez]

If Nurkic can get his 3PT % back up to 36% like he did in the 22-23 season with the Blazers, that would be such a game changer for the offense. Brook Lopez took about 40% of his FGs beyond the 3PT line, so it would be huge in terms of floor spacing for Book and KD if Nurkic could play a similar role.

[Qwigglez]

For sure. If it was up to me, Royce would be starting with Tyus, Book, KD and Nurk. He could D up on the best opposing wing in the first 5-6 minutes to set the tone, pick up a foul (or two) if need be. But I don't think Beal is willing to come off the bench - nor the Suns would want to do that with his 50 mill contract.

I am not a fan of Royce. I think he most likely will be moved at the trade deadline or sooner.

If and I know it is a big if, Dunn is able to shoot 30% + from three while providing the defense as advertised Royce will not be needed. Maybe Little will show a heartbeat with the new coach. I just am not a fan of Royce. He does not belong in the starting line up.

Royce is pretty much Jae Crowder pt.2 for us, offense is purely from 3pt land and he struggles to score anywhere besides the 3pt line.

Can't really finish near the rim either so if we can find a way to ship him out and improve the front line I think we have to do it. Not really a fan of how small we are despite upgrading at the PG spot and teams will continue to punish us by playing big and physical.

I'm not seeing anyone who makes less than or equal money to Royce O'Neal that would be an upgrade. I think Royce O'Neal is about the best bang for your buck as the Suns can hope for with his given salary.