Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia

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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#261 » by Revived » Sat Aug 10, 2024 8:14 pm

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How about Anthony Edwards, Bam Adebayo, Derrick White, Jrue Holiday, and Devin Booker. He is better than all of these players so by my count he should be playing over at least 5 players right there.

He hasn’t played better in the Olympics than most of those players you mention. Maybe he’s better individually but that doesn’t mean anything, it’s about how much better he’d fit among rest of the players too.


He is the most versatile player in the NBA and can adequately defend 1 through 4. Try again.

Olympics isn’t the NBA, he’s not playing as #1 or #2 option anymore. Thats why coaches who know way more about basketball than me or you aren’t playing him. Hope this helps.
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#262 » by NyKnicks1714 » Sat Aug 10, 2024 8:27 pm

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Like who? Name names. Can't wait to shoot down these BS hot takes. The vast majority of NBA fans are straight up casuals who don't know jack about hooping.


Right back at you, who should be be playing over? Can't think of anyone can you?


How about Anthony Edwards, Bam Adebayo, Derrick White, Jrue Holiday, and Devin Booker. He is better than all of these players so by my count he should be playing over at least 5 players right there.


100%, but they all fill necessary needs and roles on this team that Tatum doesn't. You can maybe make a case for him getting minutes over Edwards.
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#263 » by mpoo_sin » Sat Aug 10, 2024 8:41 pm

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kingr wrote:It's actually weird seeing how much Tatum hate there is on this board. Tatum is one of those players that doesn't say the wrong things, doesn't ruffle feathers, supports his teammates, doesn't play like a dirty player, doesn't act selfish (publicly) etc....

I just don't get it...But I also don't get many sentiments on those board.

It doesn’t seem like true Tatum hate to me. More like a bunch of folks having fun tweaking these really insecure Celtics fans.


Maybe you clowns can use this forum to actually have real basketball discourse instead of hating on players for no reason.


Maybe you should stop insulting everyone that is not glorifying your favourite player. Maybe some of the people you are attacking personally actually have decades of basketball experience and are actually working in the field and maybe even play on a decent level.

Also, i reported you. Maybe that is the way you get reigned in.
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#264 » by NetsJets » Sat Aug 10, 2024 9:09 pm

It’s the Olympics what special matchups do you need to that extent? You can’t find 5/6 minutes for Tatum and Halliburton?
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#265 » by vulture » Sat Aug 10, 2024 9:25 pm

Celtics fans did all that crying just for Tatum to be terrible in his mins. Mediocre in the playoffs and finals who can’t shoot or finish at the rim anymore.
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#266 » by BobbyPortisEyes » Sat Aug 10, 2024 9:25 pm

Rough Olympics for Tatum but we have to remember that he's still young and developing. He'll only be 24 years of age at the 2028 Olympics, the future is bright for this kid.
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#267 » by mpoo_sin » Sat Aug 10, 2024 9:32 pm

BobbyPortisEyes wrote:Rough Olympics for Tatum but we have to remember that he's still young and developing. He'll only be 24 years of age at the 2028 Olympics, the future is bright with this kid.


They say he is a top5 player in the league! And still so young. He ll obly get better and better! Watch him going scorched earth against the bobcats and nets next season!
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#268 » by Archerbro » Sat Aug 10, 2024 9:34 pm

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BobbyPortisEyes wrote:Rough Olympics for Tatum but we have to remember that he's still young and developing. He'll only be 24 years of age at the 2028 Olympics, the future is bright with this kid.


They say he is a top5 player in the league! And still so young. He ll obly get better and better! Watch him going scorched earth against the bobcats and nets next season!



yea he's closer to 10 than he is 5. If anyone watched the nba finals or the olympics-that has never been more apparent.
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#269 » by walk with me » Sat Aug 10, 2024 9:42 pm

NetsJets wrote:It’s the Olympics what special matchups do you need to that extent? You can’t find 5/6 minutes for Tatum and Halliburton?


We found plenty of minutes for him this game and the lead shrank because he’s a bad fit with all the different units with this team.

Hes not of use for this roster… in 2028 he’ll be essential to winning gold.
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#270 » by RB34 » Sat Aug 10, 2024 9:46 pm

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NetsJets wrote:It’s the Olympics what special matchups do you need to that extent? You can’t find 5/6 minutes for Tatum and Halliburton?


We found plenty of minutes for him this game and the lead shrank because he’s a bad fit with all the different units with this team.

Hes not of use for this roster… in 2028 he’ll be essential to winning gold.


The lead shrank because Ant was a ball stopper and there were multiple really bad turnovers, none of which were from Tatum.

Some of you have an unhealthy obsession of blaming Tatum for everything.

Embiid didn’t hit a shot and flopped his way to a couple free throws. Not a peep.
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#271 » by mpoo_sin » Sat Aug 10, 2024 9:51 pm

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NetsJets wrote:It’s the Olympics what special matchups do you need to that extent? You can’t find 5/6 minutes for Tatum and Halliburton?


We found plenty of minutes for him this game and the lead shrank because he’s a bad fit with all the different units with this team.

Hes not of use for this roster… in 2028 he’ll be essential to winning gold.



The lead shrank because Ant was a ball stopper and there were multiple really bad turnovers, none of which were from Tatum.

Some of you have an unhealthy obsession of blaming Tatum for everything.

Embiid didn’t hit a shot and flopped his way to a couple free throws. Not a peep.


They actually hit a jumpshot in the tournament. Like at least one. Tatum was so checked out that he resembled Wayoff P in his purest form.
If he had played more his reputation would habe suffered even more. Kerr actually protected him. Tatum can recharge his mind and be back to being a top15 player in the nba next season. That might still be enough to win another chip.
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#272 » by walk with me » Sat Aug 10, 2024 10:00 pm

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walk with me wrote:Tatum SHOULDNT have played in that game because you needed to max Lebrons minutes as soon as we got down double digits. Lebron played 32 minutes, we needed his physicality on both ends and play making on offense. Tatum has shot horribly in this tournament and for Bron to be most effective he needs to be surrounded by shooters (Booker-Steph-KD)

Antman wasn’t ready for Serbias intensity so he looked bad but he’s shot well (in the tournament) and defended well in the tournament which is why he’ll never get a DNP.

If we had a comfortable lead throughout the game Tatum would have got some minutes but his offense is far too inconsistent to be trusted in a single elimination scenario. What he brings on defense doesn’t compensate for what he lacks on offense with most groups we put out yesterday.

As soon as we got down by 10 Kerr tightened the rotation. At that point we only subbed guys in to give the 5 that finished a rest.

I’m fascinated by people who think Tatum should play and that he would make the team better. His static offensive and lack of physicality at the rim vs Serbia in a game with maximum roughness allowed (on both sides) would surely be a negative. Yeah he’d help on defense but on the other end we’re basically playing 4-5. In a 1 and done you can’t risk that.

Tatum fans just need to realize the perception of Tatum isn’t the reality…

What perceptoion?

He isn’t a three-team all nba first team player, two times in the finals and one time champion?

In what reality do you liver in that booker and Edwards are better than Tatum? I get it, LeBron and KD are there at the 4. But they can play Tatum, LeBron and KD on the floor.

Kerr is just fascinated with Booker and doesn’t know how to coach position less basketball.


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This is the Olympics not nba 2k or pick up basketball… Tatum isn’t better than Devin Booker or Antman at what THIS TEAM “NEEDED” TO WIN GOLD.
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#273 » by RB34 » Sat Aug 10, 2024 10:00 pm

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walk with me wrote:
We found plenty of minutes for him this game and the lead shrank because he’s a bad fit with all the different units with this team.

Hes not of use for this roster… in 2028 he’ll be essential to winning gold.



The lead shrank because Ant was a ball stopper and there were multiple really bad turnovers, none of which were from Tatum.

Some of you have an unhealthy obsession of blaming Tatum for everything.

Embiid didn’t hit a shot and flopped his way to a couple free throws. Not a peep.


They actually hit a jumpshot in the tournament. Like at least one. Tatum was so checked out that he resembled Wayoff P in his purest form.
If he had played more his reputation would habe suffered even more. Kerr actually protected him. Tatum can recharge his mind and be back to being a top15 player in the nba next season. That might still be enough to win another chip.


Ants never seen a shot he doesn’t like and was actively killing the flow of the offence for stretches throughout the tournament.

Being a top 15 player isn’t insult like you’re trying to make it out to be. Especially when you’ve accomplished more and won more than players in the top 5.
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#274 » by mpoo_sin » Sat Aug 10, 2024 10:16 pm

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The lead shrank because Ant was a ball stopper and there were multiple really bad turnovers, none of which were from Tatum.

Some of you have an unhealthy obsession of blaming Tatum for everything.

Embiid didn’t hit a shot and flopped his way to a couple free throws. Not a peep.


They actually hit a jumpshot in the tournament. Like at least one. Tatum was so checked out that he resembled Wayoff P in his purest form.
If he had played more his reputation would habe suffered even more. Kerr actually protected him. Tatum can recharge his mind and be back to being a top15 player in the nba next season. That might still be enough to win another chip.


Ants never seen a shot he doesn’t like and was actively killing the flow of the offence for stretches throughout the tournament.

Being a top 15 player isn’t insult like you’re trying to make it out to be. Especially when you’ve accomplished more and won more than players in the top 5.


It really was not meant to be an insult. I just like pointing out that Tatum is not one of the best players in the league and for my taste too many Celtics fans try to push this agenda of him being on the same level as the best of the best in the NBA.
It is not enough for them to have one of the best teams (and the best las season). They desperately want to also have a true superstar on their team and get really antsy and aggressive when people point out the obvious that Tatum is not that kind of player.

I called him the most decorated waterboy of all time in context of these Olympics. And objectively that might really be true.
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#275 » by Bourne85 » Sat Aug 10, 2024 10:19 pm

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mpoo_sin wrote:
BobbyPortisEyes wrote:Rough Olympics for Tatum but we have to remember that he's still young and developing. He'll only be 24 years of age at the 2028 Olympics, the future is bright with this kid.


They say he is a top5 player in the league! And still so young. He ll obly get better and better! Watch him going scorched earth against the bobcats and nets next season!



yea he's closer to 10 than he is 5. If anyone watched the nba finals or the olympics-that has never been more apparent.


He’s closer to 15 imo. There’s just so many guys I would prefer to lead my team than him.
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#276 » by durden_tyler » Sat Aug 10, 2024 10:20 pm

Another DNP for Tatum vs France.






















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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#277 » by mpoo_sin » Sat Aug 10, 2024 10:21 pm

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The lead shrank because Ant was a ball stopper and there were multiple really bad turnovers, none of which were from Tatum.

Some of you have an unhealthy obsession of blaming Tatum for everything.

Embiid didn’t hit a shot and flopped his way to a couple free throws. Not a peep.


They actually hit a jumpshot in the tournament. Like at least one. Tatum was so checked out that he resembled Wayoff P in his purest form.
If he had played more his reputation would habe suffered even more. Kerr actually protected him. Tatum can recharge his mind and be back to being a top15 player in the nba next season. That might still be enough to win another chip.


Ants never seen a shot he doesn’t like and was actively killing the flow of the offence for stretches throughout the tournament.

Being a top 15 player isn’t insult like you’re trying to make it out to be. Especially when you’ve accomplished more and won more than players in the top 5.


Also
Edwards was bad this tournament but Tatum was atrocious whenever he saw minutes with this team. He played himself out of any relevant playing time by being incredibly bad in the preparation games.
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#278 » by LakersSoul » Sat Aug 10, 2024 10:37 pm

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LakersSoul wrote:Team USA lineup is tricky with 2 bigs and surround them with 3 combo guards in the lineup.

Understand Celtics pride gettin dented with these DNP-CD. You could have given some Booker or ANT minutes to Tatum but silly to replace Bron with Tatum at PF esp wen the team needs more play makers and distributors and Bron is the MVP.



Nobody is crazy enough to say replace Lebron he is the playmaker SF that is by far the MVP of this team at this Olympics.

Problem Kerr has bought the media hype of Ant who is the sloppy master of turnovers and not getting benched. Booker sure has taken well to a roleplayer role but since when is he, Ant and KD untouchable?
There is no logical basketball reasons for not playing Tatum with Lebron, Embiid frontcourt. KD is lightyears away from the 2021 level.


You are not paying attention as many talk about giving Bron minutes even tho he is playing like the tourney’s MVP.

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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#279 » by wegotthabeet » Sat Aug 10, 2024 10:38 pm

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wegotthabeet wrote:Tatum isn’t good enough for a thread like this.


Can you hoop? That's what I thought.


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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#280 » by RB34 » Sat Aug 10, 2024 11:19 pm

mpoo_sin wrote:
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mpoo_sin wrote:
They actually hit a jumpshot in the tournament. Like at least one. Tatum was so checked out that he resembled Wayoff P in his purest form.
If he had played more his reputation would habe suffered even more. Kerr actually protected him. Tatum can recharge his mind and be back to being a top15 player in the nba next season. That might still be enough to win another chip.


Ants never seen a shot he doesn’t like and was actively killing the flow of the offence for stretches throughout the tournament.

Being a top 15 player isn’t insult like you’re trying to make it out to be. Especially when you’ve accomplished more and won more than players in the top 5.


It really was not meant to be an insult. I just like pointing out that Tatum is not one of the best players in the league and for my taste too many Celtics fans try to push this agenda of him being on the same level as the best of the best in the NBA.
It is not enough for them to have one of the best teams (and the best las season). They desperately want to also have a true superstar on their team and get really antsy and aggressive when people point out the obvious that Tatum is not that kind of player.

I called him the most decorated waterboy of all time in context of these Olympics. And objectively that might really be true.


It wasn’t meant to be an insult, but that’s the way it was framed. Especially when you add comments like waterboy.

Most Celtics fans I speak to understand JT isn’t on the same level as guys like Joker, Giannis and Luka but he’s definitely not as bad as some people make him out to be.

Maybe some Celtics fans think he’s a top player because history has told us that you need one to be successful in this league. Like to or not the Celtics have been one of the most successful teams since Tatum entered the league.

Acting like homerism is something unique to the Celtics fanbase is incredibly disingenuous. But that’s not something new to Celtics dialogue.

I see a lot of people call for the super team title. Since when do we have superteams led by a top 15 player? There are teams in the league with multiple top 10 players that aren’t called superteams. The Celtics have some very good players that you would probably rank 15-50. There are many teams like this in the league, are they superteams?

If Tatum isn’t a top player and is closer to 15 than 10. Why is there so much pressure on him to win? Look back at the media throughout the season and the threads on here. People were calling him a failure for not winning by age 26.

There are multiple players in the consensus top 5 that have never been out of the second round. Who have also played on stacked teams with All Star and MVP teammates.

If the backlash against Tatum is because some people on the internet think he’s better than he is then I would say you’re probably going looking for it. Th

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