Who's the most overrated player in the NBA?

[mpoo_sin]

Not most overrated but Wembanyama has Williamson like hype and people already think he is a top20 player in the league (some even say top10?!).

He has to grow his offensive game before he gets there.

He's had far more than Zion hype, but he kind of deserves it. He legitimately had some games last year where he looked like an adult playing against kids in a driveway and he may as well have been 8 feet tall.

As he starts to have more and more of those games, that's going to start becoming the norm and he'll be the most dominant player in the league. That's probably going to happen sooner rather than later. For the life of me, I can't remember the last rookie (never mind 19/20 year old rookie) who was 1st team all defense.

IMO, it's not going to be long before most people talk about how unfair the guy (already talked plenty about how unfair the Spurs lotto luck has been) is and that he's basically ruined basketball.

But i know a rookie who looked better overall than him in his first season: Doncic.

Again: i think his offense still needs a few more seasons (1 or 2) before he enters the top20. Maybe and quite possibly after next season i will put him there. But you are not a top20 player on defense alone. Gobert is the best example for that.

[UcanUwill]

Austin Reaves: In 2024-25, Reaves will earn a base salary of $12,976,362, while carrying a cap hit of $12,976,362


Brunson:

$24,960,001

Both guys are underpaid, but Brunson still more underpaid. Kid should be making over 40 mil easily by now. I understand the skepticism of 6'0 Superstar, but Brunson doesn't even have to be best player and is not paid in a way it shackles a team, he is best Knicks player now simply because he is that good.

Brunson a good player most people might think I'm a hater but just imagine this.

Reaves, Hart, OG, Randle, Robinson

You have a extra 12 million to get another helpful player give you depth.

I understand Brunson has more talent than Reaves.
But I feel and think Reaves would thrive in that type of team where he can run the offense and have non superstar players but great players to play team ball.

You will also have extra money to get a player to backup Randle or Robinson

Personally, I think you overrate Lakers players. Knicks with Brunson is just a far better team that what you proposing, this is a league where the team with best guy usually wins, and Brunson is top 10 guy in the league, not many teams have a betterguy than that. What is Knicks with Reaves, Hart, OG, Randle, Robinson and 12 mil? Its just a treadmill team, just a bunch of nothing.

[LaLover11]

Both guys are underpaid, but Brunson still more underpaid. Kid should be making over 40 mil easily by now. I understand the skepticism of 6'0 Superstar, but Brunson doesn't even have to be best player and is not paid in a way it shackles a team, he is best Knicks player now simply because he is that good.

Brunson a good player most people might think I'm a hater but just imagine this.

Reaves, Hart, OG, Randle, Robinson

You have a extra 12 million to get another helpful player give you depth.

I understand Brunson has more talent than Reaves.
But I feel and think Reaves would thrive in that type of team where he can run the offense and have non superstar players but great players to play team ball.

You will also have extra money to get a player to backup Randle or Robinson

Personally, I think you overrate Lakers players. Knicks with Brunson is just a far better team that what you proposing, this is a league where the team with best guy usually wins, and Brunson is top 10 guy in the league, not many teams have a betterguy than that. What is Knicks with Reaves, Hart, OG, Randle, Robinson and 12 mil? Its just a treadmill team, just a bunch of nothing.

You can disagree but Reaves and Vando would actually help give rest to all players.

They can play small or big with a smart IQ player that will play team ball and get the whole team going.

New York is known for hustle basketball playing with teamwork

Reaves, Hart, OG, Randle, Robinson, McBride, Donte, Vando is Better than just having Brunson.

You can even throw in Gabe to Backup Reaves/Hart


Hart literally broke apart because he was playing 48 minutes a game, c'mon let's be honest now

[UcanUwill]

Brunson a good player most people might think I'm a hater but just imagine this.

Reaves, Hart, OG, Randle, Robinson

You have a extra 12 million to get another helpful player give you depth.

I understand Brunson has more talent than Reaves.
But I feel and think Reaves would thrive in that type of team where he can run the offense and have non superstar players but great players to play team ball.

You will also have extra money to get a player to backup Randle or Robinson

Personally, I think you overrate Lakers players. Knicks with Brunson is just a far better team that what you proposing, this is a league where the team with best guy usually wins, and Brunson is top 10 guy in the league, not many teams have a betterguy than that. What is Knicks with Reaves, Hart, OG, Randle, Robinson and 12 mil? Its just a treadmill team, just a bunch of nothing.

You can disagree but Reaves and Vando would actually help give rest to all players.

They can play small or big with a smart IQ player that will play team ball and get the whole team going.

New York is known for hustle basketball playing with teamwork

Reaves, Hart, OG, Randle, Robinson, McBride, Donte, Vando is Better than just having Brunson.

You can even throw in Gabe to Backup Reaves/Hart


Hart literally broke apart because he was playing 48 minutes a game, c'mon let's be honest now

Hustle players are key to success but you also need a superstar to create offense. Put just hustle guys and they go nowhere, that is just reality of the league. I know Austin Reaves is talented offensively, but he is not Brunson, he is not number one guy in the NBA.

[LaLover11]

Personally, I think you overrate Lakers players. Knicks with Brunson is just a far better team that what you proposing, this is a league where the team with best guy usually wins, and Brunson is top 10 guy in the league, not many teams have a betterguy than that. What is Knicks with Reaves, Hart, OG, Randle, Robinson and 12 mil? Its just a treadmill team, just a bunch of nothing.

You can disagree but Reaves and Vando would actually help give rest to all players.

They can play small or big with a smart IQ player that will play team ball and get the whole team going.

New York is known for hustle basketball playing with teamwork

Reaves, Hart, OG, Randle, Robinson, McBride, Donte, Vando is Better than just having Brunson.

You can even throw in Gabe to Backup Reaves/Hart


Hart literally broke apart because he was playing 48 minutes a game, c'mon let's be honest now

Hustle players are key to success but you also need a superstar to create offense. Put just hustle guys and they go nowhere, that is just reality of the league. I know Austin Reaves is talented offensively, but he is not Brunson, he is not number one guy in the NBA.

He might not be #1 in your opinion but Reaves, OG, Randle, Donte, McBride can be a great offense 5 with Hart, Robinson, Gabe, Vando a great defensive 4 plus the rest of the bench.

Thibodeau is going to do the exact same thing to Brunson what he did to Rose.

Just wait and see and you will understand that a Thibodeau team needs a lot of depth because he breaks them apart with high minutes if you have a "Superstar"
Rose, Butler, Brunson

But we have our own opinion that's ok

[Rockazoids]

Yes he played terrible

Yet you talk up Austin Reaves badly, and Austin Reaves was a freaking disaster in World cup, probably the biggest defensive liability in the entire tournament, brutal liability in every game. And I am not saying Reaves is bad, I am rather high on Reaves myself, but you talking out of both sides of your mouth. You are down on Brunson for being meh in WC, but you still so high on Austin Reaves... Brunson had statistically season very reminiscent of prime Steph Curry, dude is a superstar in the NBA...

Austin Reaves: In 2024-25, Reaves will earn a base salary of $12,976,362, while carrying a cap hit of $12,976,362


Brunson:

$24,960,001

And Brunson is twice the player.
If we are looking at numbers
Lauri Markkanen cap hit $42.1 M
Mikal Bridges & Josh Hart cap hit $41.1M

[TFJava]

Tre Young / Zion Williamson

[Rockazoids]

Brunson a good player most people might think I'm a hater but just imagine this.

Reaves, Hart, OG, Randle, Robinson

You have a extra 12 million to get another helpful player give you depth.

I understand Brunson has more talent than Reaves.
But I feel and think Reaves would thrive in that type of team where he can run the offense and have non superstar players but great players to play team ball.

You will also have extra money to get a player to backup Randle or Robinson

Personally, I think you overrate Lakers players. Knicks with Brunson is just a far better team that what you proposing, this is a league where the team with best guy usually wins, and Brunson is top 10 guy in the league, not many teams have a betterguy than that. What is Knicks with Reaves, Hart, OG, Randle, Robinson and 12 mil? Its just a treadmill team, just a bunch of nothing.

You can disagree but Reaves and Vando would actually help give rest to all players.

They can play small or big with a smart IQ player that will play team ball and get the whole team going.

New York is known for hustle basketball playing with teamwork

Reaves, Hart, OG, Randle, Robinson, McBride, Donte, Vando is Better than just having Brunson.

You can even throw in Gabe to Backup Reaves/Hart


Hart literally broke apart because he was playing 48 minutes a game, c'mon let's be honest now

So you are saying NYK would be better with Reaves & Vando than Brunson? If so, your just trolling.

[LaLover11]

Personally, I think you overrate Lakers players. Knicks with Brunson is just a far better team that what you proposing, this is a league where the team with best guy usually wins, and Brunson is top 10 guy in the league, not many teams have a betterguy than that. What is Knicks with Reaves, Hart, OG, Randle, Robinson and 12 mil? Its just a treadmill team, just a bunch of nothing.

You can disagree but Reaves and Vando would actually help give rest to all players.

They can play small or big with a smart IQ player that will play team ball and get the whole team going.

New York is known for hustle basketball playing with teamwork

Reaves, Hart, OG, Randle, Robinson, McBride, Donte, Vando is Better than just having Brunson.

You can even throw in Gabe to Backup Reaves/Hart


Hart literally broke apart because he was playing 48 minutes a game, c'mon let's be honest now

So you are saying NYK would be better with Reaves & Vando than Brunson? If so, your just trolling.

We'll see this upcoming season

Definitely would rather have Trae than Brunson for the Lakers.

[Rockazoids]

You can disagree but Reaves and Vando would actually help give rest to all players.

They can play small or big with a smart IQ player that will play team ball and get the whole team going.

New York is known for hustle basketball playing with teamwork

Reaves, Hart, OG, Randle, Robinson, McBride, Donte, Vando is Better than just having Brunson.

You can even throw in Gabe to Backup Reaves/Hart


Hart literally broke apart because he was playing 48 minutes a game, c'mon let's be honest now

So you are saying NYK would be better with Reaves & Vando than Brunson? If so, your just trolling.

We'll see this upcoming season

Definitely would rather have Trae than Brunson for the Lakers.

Brunson is the better player and makes $18.1 M less, any LAL have no way of obtaining either one of them.

[durden_tyler]

Donovan Mitchell for me.


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[mcfly1204]

Based on recent All-NBA voting, Julius Randle.

[UcanUwill]

Donovan Mitchell for me.


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I can see that, but not really. He is career 28.1 / 5 / 5 guy in the play offs, .559 TS%, and his teams always makes play offs, guy is pretty great, I would say overlooked even.

[aggo]

Jalen Brunson

[Statlanta]

Personally it's Victor(Spurs) for me. Too much speculation about what he will do in the future, and with help than his actual production.

[tsherkin]

Personally it's Victor(Spurs) for me. Too much speculation about what he will do in the future, and with help than his actual production.

His defensive value and utility as a rebounder seem immediately clear, though...

[Jabroni Lames]

The correct answer is: Draymond Green.

Put him in almost any other scenario and he could be out of the league.

You can't be serious...

Draymond would've been way better in 2024 in the Olympics for team USA vs Hali & Tatum

True Point Forward with way better defense & High IQ
I'm not even a Green fan but he's a winning player

Oh, you mean like in 2019-20, when Steph & Klay were injured, and Draymond led the Warriors to a 15-50 season and quit on the team?

[SA37]

Of current players, Draymond Green, Rudy Gobert, and OG Anunoby are the first names that come to mind.

Of retired players, Allen Iverson, Chauncey Billups, Ben Wallace, Jason Williams, and Bill Walton come to mind.

[dockingsched]

I honestly don’t understand how Rudy Gobert is still being mentioned. It feels like everyone thinks he’s very limited and better off on the bench many times.

Some like me think he wasn’t and hasn’t been the most deserving DPOY, but he’s at least a top defender during the regular season. I think that’s a common view. Not sure what else people expect for him not no longer he overrated.

[guynumber45]

For me it's Anthony Edwards. He's an exciting young talent for sure. But the media/players are treating this man like he's going to be the headline of the next generation of players like KD/Lebron/Steph were for the past one. I don't see it. I think he's a tier behind the truly generational talents of this crop of players like Luka and Wemby