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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#661 » by youngcrev » Wed Aug 21, 2024 12:00 pm

M2J wrote:I agree they should've been looking at a young athletic defensive guard to play next to Maxey or replace him in case he needs time out. Fultz or Dennis Smith Jr. Would've been great. Maxey, George and even Joel are able to space the floor and hit contested jumpers, but having a guy that could push the ball and setup offense like a real PG and defend could've been valuable. Clearly not likely at this point, so they're going the old head route, which is fine honestly... but makes so much sense to get a guy like dsj or fultz if you can, but playing time can't be guaranteed as the shooting of Eric and Kyle is more important in the playoffs. Especially since they actually have gotten quality prospects at forward, which was a bigger need.

I'll reiterate, Morey has written a masterclass on how to build a full roster and a big 3 in the most restrictive league/cba in many fans life times. Never thought it was possible, but he's highlighted some loopholes that are new


I think DSJ is too small. Good defender, but he's pretty much a one position defender at his height, no? I don't think that works particularly well next to Maxey. Like him in general, just don't see the fit here.

I'm intrigued by Fultz due to his size, athleticism and playmaking. The shot is a pretty big issue in terms of fit though, and it's not like there's a ton of on ball usage to go around. Still, feels like an obvious yes for the minimum on our end as a 15th roster spot... But there's gotta be a bigger role available elsewhere for him, no? Is he coming here to compete with Lowry, Gordon and Jackson for bench minutes?
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#662 » by ProcessDoctor » Wed Aug 21, 2024 12:11 pm

LeonJordanJr24 wrote:Why do I feel a Ben Simmons return coming?


A young healthy Simmons with this big 3 would’ve been awesome. Too bad he’s not that guy anymore. Hated how he left with the blame game but feel bad for him with his injuries.

That being said, if he was bought out and only cost the min right now, I wouldn’t be against it. Worst case scenario he rides the bench. We know Maxey and Embiid like the idea of playing with him based on their podcast together last season.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#663 » by youngcrev » Wed Aug 21, 2024 12:19 pm

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LeonJordanJr24 wrote:Why do I feel a Ben Simmons return coming?


A young healthy Simmons with this big 3 would’ve been awesome. Too bad he’s not that guy anymore. Hated how he left with the blame game but feel bad for him with his injuries.

That being said, if he was bought out and only cost the min right now, I wouldn’t be against it. Worst case scenario he rides the bench. We know Maxey and Embiid like the idea of playing with him based on their podcast together last season.


I don't think worst case scenario would be him simply riding the bench. There's obvious potential for him to be a massive distraction. That said... You could always just cut him if he was on a minimum, and the requisite skill set is there to be an impactful player based on team needs.

...I just can't see it happening. Too much drama.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#664 » by youngcrev » Wed Aug 21, 2024 12:33 pm

If Lonzo Ball somehow manages to finally make it back from injury and looks like his old self (seems pretty unlikely at this stage), he'd be a pretty great target for this team as the 4th guy.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#665 » by zaz102 » Wed Aug 21, 2024 4:15 pm

I thoughtthe Sixers couldn't sign bought out players that were making more than the MLE ($12M). Is that right?
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#666 » by NearingZero » Wed Aug 21, 2024 4:57 pm

zaz102 wrote:I thoughtthe Sixers couldn't sign bought out players that were making more than the MLE ($12M). Is that right?

That is correct.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#667 » by M2J » Wed Aug 21, 2024 6:50 pm

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M2J wrote:I agree they should've been looking at a young athletic defensive guard to play next to Maxey or replace him in case he needs time out. Fultz or Dennis Smith Jr. Would've been great. Maxey, George and even Joel are able to space the floor and hit contested jumpers, but having a guy that could push the ball and setup offense like a real PG and defend could've been valuable. Clearly not likely at this point, so they're going the old head route, which is fine honestly... but makes so much sense to get a guy like dsj or fultz if you can, but playing time can't be guaranteed as the shooting of Eric and Kyle is more important in the playoffs. Especially since they actually have gotten quality prospects at forward, which was a bigger need.

I'll reiterate, Morey has written a masterclass on how to build a full roster and a big 3 in the most restrictive league/cba in many fans life times. Never thought it was possible, but he's highlighted some loopholes that are new


I think DSJ is too small. Good defender, but he's pretty much a one position defender at his height, no? I don't think that works particularly well next to Maxey. Like him in general, just don't see the fit here.

I'm intrigued by Fultz due to his size, athleticism and playmaking. The shot is a pretty big issue in terms of fit though, and it's not like there's a ton of on ball usage to go around. Still, feels like an obvious yes for the minimum on our end as a 15th roster spot... But there's gotta be a bigger role available elsewhere for him, no? Is he coming here to compete with Lowry, Gordon and Jackson for bench minutes?


I think of this signing as a situational signing for Fultz or dsj due to their shooting. Which is probably why they wouldn't do it. I think the fit even without the shooting could be useful in keeping pace up, pressure on the rim and improving defense in the case of Maxey needing time off. Also valuable vs certain quick guards like Fox or the current Cleveland setup of it's back when you need to get after quick guards.

Maybe they feel they can fill that role with one of those 2 way youngsters on the roster whose names I don't bother to remember
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#668 » by Zumramania » Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:29 pm

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LeonJordanJr24 wrote:Why do I feel a Ben Simmons return coming?


A young healthy Simmons with this big 3 would’ve been awesome. Too bad he’s not that guy anymore. Hated how he left with the blame game but feel bad for him with his injuries.

That being said, if he was bought out and only cost the min right now, I wouldn’t be against it. Worst case scenario he rides the bench. We know Maxey and Embiid like the idea of playing with him based on their podcast together last season.


No, he would not. He would want to be a playmaker and in playoffs it would be 4 vs. 5 basketball. Also, they would hack him and he would have to shoot free throws, which he was abysmal at under pressure.

Who knows if it is true that they would like to play with him, or maybe they would like to do it because he covers for them in defense, grabs rebounds and dishes out assists - but this is not conductive to playoff success due to factors mentioned above + this season we have acquired some new playoff caliber players.

For me, Simmons is a hard no in any shape or form. He is a loser and is bad for team culture IMO.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#669 » by Zumramania » Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:33 pm

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ProcessDoctor wrote:
LeonJordanJr24 wrote:Why do I feel a Ben Simmons return coming?


A young healthy Simmons with this big 3 would’ve been awesome. Too bad he’s not that guy anymore. Hated how he left with the blame game but feel bad for him with his injuries.

That being said, if he was bought out and only cost the min right now, I wouldn’t be against it. Worst case scenario he rides the bench. We know Maxey and Embiid like the idea of playing with him based on their podcast together last season.


No, he would not. He would want to be a playmaker and in playoffs it would be 4 vs. 5 basketball. Show me a team that achieved playoff success starting a player with below zero shooting ability. They would also hack him and he would have to shoot free throws, which he was abysmal at under pressure.

Who knows if it is true that they would like to play with him, or maybe they would like to do it because he covers for them in defense, grabs rebounds and dishes out assists - but this is not conductive to playoff success due to factors mentioned above + this season we have acquired some new playoff caliber players.

For me, Simmons is a hard no in any shape or form. He is a loser and is bad for team culture IMO.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#670 » by Zumramania » Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:33 pm

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Zumramania wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:
A young healthy Simmons with this big 3 would’ve been awesome. Too bad he’s not that guy anymore. Hated how he left with the blame game but feel bad for him with his injuries.

That being said, if he was bought out and only cost the min right now, I wouldn’t be against it. Worst case scenario he rides the bench. We know Maxey and Embiid like the idea of playing with him based on their podcast together last season.


No, he would not. He would want to be a playmaker and in playoffs it would be 4 vs. 5 basketball. Show me a team that achieved playoff success starting a player with below zero shooting ability. They would also hack him and he would have to shoot free throws, which he was abysmal at under pressure.

Who knows if it is true that they would like to play with him, or maybe they would like to do it because he covers for them in defense, grabs rebounds and dishes out assists - but this is not conductive to playoff success due to factors mentioned above + this season we have acquired some new playoff caliber players.

For me, Simmons is a hard no in any shape or form. He is a loser and is bad for team culture IMO.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#671 » by GoSixersBro » Thu Aug 22, 2024 2:59 pm

The fantasies of Simmons are wild. This isn't 2K.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#672 » by hookshot199 » Thu Aug 22, 2024 3:47 pm

youngcrev wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:
LeonJordanJr24 wrote:Why do I feel a Ben Simmons return coming?


A young healthy Simmons with this big 3 would’ve been awesome. Too bad he’s not that guy anymore. Hated how he left with the blame game but feel bad for him with his injuries.

That being said, if he was bought out and only cost the min right now, I wouldn’t be against it. Worst case scenario he rides the bench. We know Maxey and Embiid like the idea of playing with him based on their podcast together last season.


I don't think worst case scenario would be him simply riding the bench. There's obvious potential for him to be a massive distraction. That said... You could always just cut him if he was on a minimum, and the requisite skill set is there to be an impactful player based on team needs.


...I just can't see it happening. Too much drama.


Exactly.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#673 » by 76ciology » Fri Aug 23, 2024 2:19 am

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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#674 » by sixerguy » Fri Aug 23, 2024 2:38 pm

I'd just like someone who can pass and dribble and isn't 40 years old (Lowry, C Paul). Shooting is secondary. Andre Miller would be the perfect type or a Rajon Rondo. No combo guards. Don't know of any gifted distributors at PG for the minimum though.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#675 » by davesilver » Sat Aug 24, 2024 4:21 pm

sixerguy wrote:I'd just like someone who can pass and dribble and isn't 40 years old (Lowry, C Paul). Shooting is secondary. Andre Miller would be the perfect type or a Rajon Rondo. No combo guards. Don't know of any gifted distributors at PG for the minimum though.


Fultz? Lol
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#676 » by the_process » Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:16 pm

They aren't signing anyone else. Team is set until at least December 15th.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#677 » by M2J » Sun Aug 25, 2024 6:52 am

davesilver wrote:
sixerguy wrote:I'd just like someone who can pass and dribble and isn't 40 years old (Lowry, C Paul). Shooting is secondary. Andre Miller would be the perfect type or a Rajon Rondo. No combo guards. Don't know of any gifted distributors at PG for the minimum though.


Fultz? Lol


I mean honestly, if they get the chance to get him for the minimum, gotta do it. Unlikely, because there's not guaranteed playing time. But a young guard that's just for injury or rest like Milton came in for that stretch a few years ago without Maxey or Harden and then didn't play again really.... Could be a great regular season get. Situational playoff guy if they can defend and playmake.

It's a total luxury, but could be important with 2 old guards, and I'm not trying to see point guard P
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#678 » by Negrodamus » Sun Aug 25, 2024 9:12 am

Fultz would be a hilarious pick up.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#679 » by Arsenal » Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:14 pm

Fultz is a losing player and we're trying to win. No chance.

As for Ben, he could help in a limited role but there is no way to get him. Don't have enough salary to trade and we won't be allowed to sign him if he gets waived due to the new CBA rules.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5 

Post#680 » by ankle420breaker » Sun Aug 25, 2024 2:55 pm

Someone will get waived and we'll likely pick up a decent ring chaser mid-season with that final spot (or absorb a body in a trade).

We're probably locked into this roster heading into the season. Best squad we've had in awhile.... and still have a mini war chest to add another piece.

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