What are the argument for Stephen curry as the G.O.A.T

[Myth]

I am a die hard Curry fan, but no way I can put him as GOAT conversation right now.

1st tier: Jordan, Lebron, Kareem.
2-1 tier: Wilt, Russell, Duncan, Magic, Bird, Shaq
2-2 tier: Curry, Kobe, Hakeem

I can’t think of a time I’ve seen a top 12 players match mine so perfectly.

[Lenneth]

Why not? Did you even watch half of those guys you named play?

Saw 9 out of 12 players, so not bad?

All right so what is your basis of ranking them the way that you do?

50% career achievement, 25% as a player/stats, and 25% what they meant in their era. I don't necessarily believe that comparing stats and analyzing advanced stats in different eras makes too much sense because rules and circumstances are different, and I put more emphasis on achievements and cultural icons. As a 30+ die-hard Warriors fan, I would love to push Curry's all-time rank as high as possible. But, I don't have a good argument against those 2-1 tier players, when they achieved a bit more in their careers. Honestly, I would be fine if Curry were ranked in the 10th-12th range. Maybe Bird and Shaq within 3 years?

[triple_threat]

Two legit arguments…

First is unconventional for basketball but like boxing if we think in terms of pound for pound he’s definitely the most valuable player with the natural body and athletic gifts given.

Secondly, as the Olympics showed that whilst guys like Lebron are higher floor raisers, no one raises the ceiling more than Steph when he is on. God mode Steph is the most valuable piece to ever hit the court

This a dumb take never seen god mode steph do anything remotely close to lebron vs pistons, hell even kawhi 2019 playoff run, wade finals in his first ring, a bunch of Jordan peak moments, shaq in several finals . god mode steph isn’t in the same tier as better players’ god mode

[Rainwater]

Best player on the court was Curry. Many people don't see it though. Such people tend to see Andre or Draymond or even KD scoring freely and think that's all Andre, Draymond, or KD when it's actually highly influenced by Steph.

Everyone would tell you it’s Lebron but I know how you feel about Steph so there is no point debating.

Of course you would avoid debate. It becomes embarrassing when one recalls how players like Wade and Bosh were supposedly washed while with LeBron whereas Andre, Draymond, and KD never looked better than they did with Steph.

I avoid the debate because you are WarriorGM lol

[xinxin]

If 2016 & KD didn’t happen, he’d be higher in all time rankings


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[durden_tyler]

Already the GOAT point guard.

[Ainosterhaspie]

If this was "what is the argument he top 10", it would be interesting. GOAT is laughable. Poll should have an "outside the top 10" option since there's a good argument he's not top 10.

[Rainwater]

If this was "what is the argument he top 10", it would be interesting. GOAT is laughable. Poll should have an "outside the top 10" option since there's a good argument he's not top 10.

Yeah, I don’t know why that isn’t an option.

[dk1115]

The GSOAT (silent S)

[Rainwater]

Already the GOAT point guard.

That depends on what you think a point guard is. On paper he is a point guard but Green is the one who actually runs point for Golden State, even on the Olympic squad it was LBJ who ran point. Not saying he can’t create but he is best used when he is off the ball. He not known for being a typical point guard. How many skits have been made about people chasing him off screens and the talk about his gravity.

[CodeBreaker]

When his shots aren't falling, he's basically useless on the court. Just watch the entire Olympic run before the Semi finals game.

[Rainwater]

When his shots aren't falling, he's basically useless on the court. Just watch the entire Olympic run before the Semi finals game.

Love Curry but this true.

[AdagioPace]

since when has this forum become the "Golden State of Mind" blog?

[Message Boar]

Why is there no voting option for outside the top 10? This is kind of presumptuous. It's a borderline case, at least.

[SpreeS]

When his shots aren't falling, he's basically useless on the court. Just watch the entire Olympic run before the Semi finals game.

Just by having him on the floor is positive thing if you understand something.

TOP15 in total career REB between PG (Will finish TOP10)
TOP40 in career asists (Will finish TOP25 or TOP20)
TOP50 in career steals (Will finish TOP30)
TOP30 in career pts (Will finish TOP15 or TOP10)
TOP100 in career made FT (Will finish TOP50 or TOP60)
6/7th in career TS
13th in career BPM
35th in career WS (Will finish TOP25)
27th in career WS/48
20th in career PER
5th in career +/-
3rd in career +/- per game
TOP10 in career RAPM
2nd best career O-RAPM

This is a guy who is useless on the court w/o his shots...

[CodeBreaker]

When his shots aren't falling, he's basically useless on the court. Just watch the entire Olympic run before the Semi finals game.

Just by having him on the floor is positive thing if you understand something.

TOP15 in total career REB between PG (Will finish TOP10)
TOP40 in career asists (Will finish TOP25 or TOP20)
TOP50 in career steals (Will finish TOP30)
TOP30 in career pts (Will finish TOP15 or TOP10)
TOP100 in career made FT (Will finish TOP50 or TOP60)
6/7th in career TS
13th in career BPM
35th in career WS (Will finish TOP25)
27th in career WS/48
20th in career PER
5th in career +/-
3rd in career +/- per game
TOP10 in career RAPM
2nd best career O-RAPM

This is a guy who is useless on the court w/o his shots...

We are talking about GOAT standards here. Again when his shots ain't falling, he's just a liability out there.

But when he's on rhythm, he is arguably the best ceiling raiser ever imo.

[SpreeS]

When his shots aren't falling, he's basically useless on the court. Just watch the entire Olympic run before the Semi finals game.

Just by having him on the floor is positive thing if you understand something.

TOP15 in total career REB between PG (Will finish TOP10)
TOP40 in career asists (Will finish TOP25 or TOP20)
TOP50 in career steals (Will finish TOP30)
TOP30 in career pts (Will finish TOP15 or TOP10)
TOP100 in career made FT (Will finish TOP50 or TOP60)
6/7th in career TS
13th in career BPM
35th in career WS (Will finish TOP25)
27th in career WS/48
20th in career PER
5th in career +/-
3rd in career +/- per game
TOP10 in career RAPM
2nd best career O-RAPM

This is a guy who is useless on the court w/o his shots...

We are talking about GOAT standards here. Again when his shots ain't falling, he's just a liability out there.

But when he's on rhythm, he is arguably the best ceiling raiser ever imo.

1. We dont talk about GOAT standart here
2. Again when his shots ain't falling, he isnt a liability.

[CodeBreaker]

Just by having him on the floor is positive thing if you understand something.

TOP15 in total career REB between PG (Will finish TOP10)
TOP40 in career asists (Will finish TOP25 or TOP20)
TOP50 in career steals (Will finish TOP30)
TOP30 in career pts (Will finish TOP15 or TOP10)
TOP100 in career made FT (Will finish TOP50 or TOP60)
6/7th in career TS
13th in career BPM
35th in career WS (Will finish TOP25)
27th in career WS/48
20th in career PER
5th in career +/-
3rd in career +/- per game
TOP10 in career RAPM
2nd best career O-RAPM

This is a guy who is useless on the court w/o his shots...

We are talking about GOAT standards here. Again when his shots ain't falling, he's just a liability out there.

But when he's on rhythm, he is arguably the best ceiling raiser ever imo.

1. We dont talk about GOAT standart here

then you're in the wrong thread.

[Rainwater]

Just by having him on the floor is positive thing if you understand something.

TOP15 in total career REB between PG (Will finish TOP10)
TOP40 in career asists (Will finish TOP25 or TOP20)
TOP50 in career steals (Will finish TOP30)
TOP30 in career pts (Will finish TOP15 or TOP10)
TOP100 in career made FT (Will finish TOP50 or TOP60)
6/7th in career TS
13th in career BPM
35th in career WS (Will finish TOP25)
27th in career WS/48
20th in career PER
5th in career +/-
3rd in career +/- per game
TOP10 in career RAPM
2nd best career O-RAPM

This is a guy who is useless on the court w/o his shots...

We are talking about GOAT standards here. Again when his shots ain't falling, he's just a liability out there.

But when he's on rhythm, he is arguably the best ceiling raiser ever imo.

1. We dont talk about GOAT standart here
2. Again when his shots ain't falling, he isnt a liability.

This whole thread is about him being the GOAT, lol.

And honest question here, if Curry shot is not falling what else is he doing? He isn’t a lead defender. Dude has career rebounds and assists numbers of 4.7 and 6.3. Only one season where he averaged 8 assists. So he ain’t really passing or rebounding it either.

Curry is arguably a top 15 player. Him being the greatest shooter of all time is what makes him great. Let’s not pretend it’s other attributes.

[Rainwater]

Two legit arguments…

First is unconventional for basketball but like boxing if we think in terms of pound for pound he’s definitely the most valuable player with the natural body and athletic gifts given.

Secondly, as the Olympics showed that whilst guys like Lebron are higher floor raisers, no one raises the ceiling more than Steph when he is on. God mode Steph is the most valuable piece to ever hit the court

This a dumb take never seen god mode steph do anything remotely close to lebron vs pistons, hell even kawhi 2019 playoff run, wade finals in his first ring, a bunch of Jordan peak moments, shaq in several finals . god mode steph isn’t in the same tier as better players’ god mode

Steph in the final game in the Olympics was quite impressive and definitely God mode. There are plenty of other games where dude could not miss.