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Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#81 » by Iron Mantis » Mon Sep 23, 2024 7:29 pm

Iron Mantis wrote:Mitch misses so many games he's entering the territory of not even being an actual person. He's basically just an idea or a concept.

Sims is the ONLY center on the roster. :lol:


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Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#82 » by aggo » Mon Sep 23, 2024 7:35 pm

literally the best thing for Mitch's career is to lose weight and be limited next year to 20mpg
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Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#83 » by Jeffrey » Mon Sep 23, 2024 7:35 pm

If this isn't news and they knew about it... I don't know what they were thinking. There were some capable centers that signed at a decent price.
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Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#84 » by spree8 » Mon Sep 23, 2024 7:46 pm

Shoulda signed Bruno :nod:
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Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#85 » by TheGreenArrow » Mon Sep 23, 2024 7:47 pm

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Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#86 » by Guano » Mon Sep 23, 2024 7:56 pm

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DaGawd wrote:i honestly feel like sims might surprise us and be more than adequate


:lol:
stop it - you're better than this

you're trying to talk yourself into some bullchit

he sucks and we all know it.

Maybe if we all think Sims positively it'll work lol


never work - we're knicks fans we don't know how to be positive
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Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#87 » by aq_ua » Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:01 pm

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We'd also struggle to match salary with Williams and we're over the apron (2nd now?). Reath, we could match pretty easily.

That said, I only pretend to understand the new cap restrictions.


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I mean, I was thinking something like KBD or Payne and a 2nd for Reath and those seem to work once Payne is eligible to move.

I'm not bothering with Williams because Donte is the matching piece and we're not trading him and POR is loaded at SG anyway.

After mid-December, you can combine a few minimum contracts. Assuming Portland clears a few end of the bench players, you could trade Deuce, KBD, Okeke and Shamet in a 4 for 1 for Williams. Outside of a few picks, I don't see the basketball reason for Portland making that sort of move, but the numbers should at least work.
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Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#88 » by Richard4444 » Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:01 pm

We can not get more salary than we are giving in any trade. Thus, we have 4 options to get a quality center via trade:

1) Trade Randle or a Nova guy (Hart or Donte). Randle has very low trade value and we will miss a ofense creator. I can not see the Front Office getting rid of a Nova guy right now (it would be awfull for morale). Its the only way to get a expensive center like Ayton.

2) Trade Deuce (4,7M) plus Sims/Pacome/Kolek (1,8 or 2M) and picks. We can get a player earning at most 6,5/6,7M because I heard we can not attach multiple min players in a trade. We could get only Richards or Kessler.

3) We can use Mitch as a trade filler. He has negative value right now and if we are trading him for another center, we will be still with only one good center on the roster. Attaching Deuce and a Min guy, we could get up to 21M. We could bring Vuc, Allen (I am not sure our picks are enough for him) or Poetl. I dont think its enough to land Capela or Lopez.

4) We can wait for Precious to be trade eligible (December 15th) and use him as a filler. Precious + Deuce + Min Guy + Picks could net us a 12,7M player at most. We could get Adams, Timelord, Holmes, JV, Carter, Jalen Smith and Goga.
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Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#89 » by Guano » Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:03 pm

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Iron Mantis wrote:Mitch misses so many games he's entering the territory of not even being an actual person. He's basically just an idea or a concept.

Sims is the ONLY center on the roster. :lol:


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Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#90 » by Richard4444 » Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:05 pm

We cant trade right now Precious, Payne, Morris, Okeke, Shamet.

Besides, we only may keep one of Shamet, Morris and Okeke by the begin of the season assuming we are not getting rid of any of the others 14 guaranteed players we have on the roster right now.
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Post#91 » by Guano » Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:06 pm

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damn the sham curse killed deeeeeeeeez's fav knicks tenure. :D
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Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#92 » by Wildcat » Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:16 pm

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Since I-Shatter split, I came to this conclusion myself.
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Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#93 » by Wildcat » Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:19 pm

Richard4444 wrote:We can not get more salary than we are giving in any trade. Thus, we have 4 options to get a quality center via trade:

1) Trade Randle or a Nova guy (Hart or Donte). Randle has very low trade value and we will miss a ofense creator. I can not see the Front Office getting rid of a Nova guy right now (it would be awfull for morale). Its the only way to get a expensive center like Ayton.

2) Trade Deuce (4,7M) plus Sims/Pacome/Kolek (1,8 or 2M) and picks. We can get a player earning at most 6,5/6,7M because I heard we can not attach multiple min players in a trade. We could get only Richards or Kessler.

3) We can use Mitch as a trade filler. He has negative value right now and if we are trading him for another center, we will be still with only one good center on the roster. Attaching Deuce and a Min guy, we could get up to 21M. We could bring Vuc, Allen (I am not sure our picks are enough for him) or Poetl. I dont think its enough to land Capela or Lopez.

4) We can wait for Precious to be trade eligible (December 15th) and use him as a filler. Precious + Deuce + Min Guy + Picks could net us a 12,7M player at most. We could get Adams, Timelord, Holmes, JV, Carter, Jalen Smith and Goga.


I kind of glance through what I'm about to say, but can't the Knicks aggregate salaries from like January something to the trade deadline?
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Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#94 » by Richard4444 » Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:26 pm

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Richard4444 wrote:We can not get more salary than we are giving in any trade. Thus, we have 4 options to get a quality center via trade:

1) Trade Randle or a Nova guy (Hart or Donte). Randle has very low trade value and we will miss a ofense creator. I can not see the Front Office getting rid of a Nova guy right now (it would be awfull for morale). Its the only way to get a expensive center like Ayton.

2) Trade Deuce (4,7M) plus Sims/Pacome/Kolek (1,8 or 2M) and picks. We can get a player earning at most 6,5/6,7M because I heard we can not attach multiple min players in a trade. We could get only Richards or Kessler.

3) We can use Mitch as a trade filler. He has negative value right now and if we are trading him for another center, we will be still with only one good center on the roster. Attaching Deuce and a Min guy, we could get up to 21M. We could bring Vuc, Allen (I am not sure our picks are enough for him) or Poetl. I dont think its enough to land Capela or Lopez.

4) We can wait for Precious to be trade eligible (December 15th) and use him as a filler. Precious + Deuce + Min Guy + Picks could net us a 12,7M player at most. We could get Adams, Timelord, Holmes, JV, Carter, Jalen Smith and Goga.


I kind of glance through what I'm about to say, but can't the Knicks aggregate salaries from like January something to the trade deadline?


Yes. we can aggregate salaries after December 15th until the trade deadline ( 4th option). But I do not think its enough to get an expensive player. I do not think we can aggregate min players.

We could use the T MLE right now and trade him before the trade deadline. However, we have 14 guaranteed players and 3 Exibitions 9/10 contracts on the roster. And I believe there is not a center worth Tax MLE in the Free Agency and we already have a logjam on the other spots.
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Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#95 » by JRoy » Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:28 pm

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This trade checker is up-to-date on everything, CBA, salaries, restrictions, etc.

https://fanspo.com/nba/trade-machine


Have fun and show us what you come up with


I mean, I was thinking something like KBD or Payne and a 2nd for Reath and those seem to work once Payne is eligible to move.

I'm not bothering with Williams because Donte is the matching piece and we're not trading him and POR is loaded at SG anyway.

After mid-December, you can combine a few minimum contracts. Assuming Portland clears a few end of the bench players, you could trade Deuce, KBD, Okeke and Shamet in a 4 for 1 for Williams. Outside of a few picks, I don't see the basketball reason for Portland making that sort of move, but the numbers should at least work.


POR doesn’t want any of those guys.

Salary and 2 SRP for Reath and call it a day.
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Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#96 » by Richard4444 » Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:29 pm

jvsimonetti0514 wrote:Spaz was pretty solid in summer league. Guess it could be his time to shine?

Wonder if mitch had some sort of setback? This has to be the front offices way of admitting that. He was basically back after 4 months after the first surgery and now he might need double that time? Maybe it’s cuz it’s the 2nd surgery in less than a year? They should call up Javale McGee or Dwight Howard to eat some innings for them.


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Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#97 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:32 pm

Not that surprised that Mitch would miss the start of the season but possibly not seeing him until January is surprising. It still be pretty reasonable to expect him back around thanksgiving but in 2025 is a long time. Didn’t KP get hurt after him with a pretty serious knee injury and is expect back around the same time? Maybe Boston is being overly optimistic about his return date? Tough to understand how less serious injury takes much longer. Unless there was some sort of setback.
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Post#98 » by JayTWill » Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:41 pm

Is Randle expected to be ready at the start of the season?
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Post#99 » by nykballa2k4 » Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:42 pm

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Re: Mitch not expected to be ready until December/January per Begley… 

Post#100 » by nykballa2k4 » Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:44 pm

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I mean, I was thinking something like KBD or Payne and a 2nd for Reath and those seem to work once Payne is eligible to move.

I'm not bothering with Williams because Donte is the matching piece and we're not trading him and POR is loaded at SG anyway.

After mid-December, you can combine a few minimum contracts. Assuming Portland clears a few end of the bench players, you could trade Deuce, KBD, Okeke and Shamet in a 4 for 1 for Williams. Outside of a few picks, I don't see the basketball reason for Portland making that sort of move, but the numbers should at least work.


POR doesn’t want any of those guys.

Salary and 2 SRP for Reath and call it a day.


I think you misread what the FO wants to do. IDK what the asking price is for Ayton, but his salary may be neutral value at best and they may very well want to clear a path.
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