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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1381 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Sep 29, 2024 9:35 am

robillionaire wrote:TOWNS GANG

my whole town has been underwater and I haven’t had internet I just escaped to Charlotte but I’m alive my house is good

And we got towns

I’ll miss Randle I hope he wins the chip but…. Hell yeah

I miss Donte too


Lots of people here got flooded. Have friends on the beach who had four feet of gulf water inside their house. They had just completed building a moat wall around their house and the water just went right over it. American coastlines are a real gamble these days.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1382 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Sep 29, 2024 9:35 am

will34 wrote:I think it's a net positive for NYK. They need to find some toughness though. A lot of that left with ihart, JR, and Dvo.

Side note, is NYKmentality1985 on Twitter the old poster from here?


Yes. Grew up and is the same maniac they were as a child poster.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1383 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Sep 29, 2024 9:58 am

coachEmily wrote:Hello, my team has Donte DiVincenzo!
So just curious Knicks fans what type of ceiling does he have?
He's got such a magically quick release, so maybe he will be Klay Thompson?


Similar enough style on offense and can produce upwards to 20 PPG if he's featured in the offense, but certainly not as good a defender as Klay was in his prime though he can play defense at a competent enough level.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1384 » by Fat Kat » Sun Sep 29, 2024 10:39 am

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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1385 » by robillionaire » Sun Sep 29, 2024 10:44 am

Reign23 wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
aggo wrote:ihart leaving really did all this, crazy


We lost the best Knicks center since Patrick Ewing and then traded for the best Knicks center since Patrick Ewing.

The 2015 NBA draft has finally been corrected.

Ihart better than peak Tyson Chandler is a little wild :D


I was kinda just joking but you’re probably right. I liked Tyson.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1386 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:11 am

aggo wrote:herb jones would be insane


I'd rather have Tre Murphy but I wouldn't complain either way
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1387 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:22 am

stuporman wrote:I wasn't convinced KAT was better than Randle anyway but a deal sending out Divo to get it done makes this so much less appealing...

If I didn't have trust in the FO from their track record I'd be calling this a loser deal and I will reserve my right to still say it in the future.

Wut...and a first...even an owed one, I like this deal even less and I didn't like it before I heard about the pick. KAT better not be a pussy or he'll get reamed by Knicks fans, I'll say that much.


It's a first that won't convey, most likely, but it does turn into 2 2nd rounders if it doesn't, and those seem to be more valuable than in the past under new CBA rules.

I like Donte a LOT and I think fans or FO should never underestimate the impact of a knockdown 3 point shooter, but I also think he's being somewhat overrated on here, same way we do with our rookies.

KAT vs Randle is close but I have edge Towns. This is on pure ability.
Towns is a much better fit for the Knicks, and he fixes the C depth to some degree by truly being able to play both 4 and 5.

And like Aggo and others have covered, Randle should close the gap in salary with Towns in the next year. Might night make the same, but the value would be close. Not that that really matters with the Knicks hard capped anyway.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1388 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:24 am

SelbyCobra wrote:New Orleans being in such dire straits for a starting center is the rationale behind them giving up a valuable player to acquire a guy who is missing the first 30 games of the season?


The Knicks overpaid somewhat to solve center and fit to get Towns.

Good centers don't grown on trees and Mitch is one.

Also, doesn't Mitch expire after this season? There might be a financial angle. I don't know. But we are in new CBA territory.

Hell, it made the Twolves trade Towns after they nearly had a championship run.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1389 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:26 am

coachEmily wrote:Hello, my team has Donte DiVincenzo!
So just curious Knicks fans what type of ceiling does he have?
He's got such a magically quick release, so maybe he will be Klay Thompson?


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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1390 » by god shammgod » Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:27 am

if they trade mitch, they gotta get a defensive center back. otherwise this goes from "i don't know about this" to really bad. you can't expect to compete for a title with no rim protection and karl as your only real center. that's a disaster.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1391 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:29 am

Reign23 wrote:I am curious to find out what draft compensation we are sending to Charlotte for taking on salary.


That Detroit #1 that may or may not convey. It's either that or the Washington one. Yes, I know that makes a difference but I caught myself as maybe the Detroit one went to the Nets.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1392 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:32 am

god shammgod wrote:if they trade mitch, they gotta get a defensive center back. otherwise this goes from "i don't know about this" to really bad. you can't expect to compete for a title with no rim protection and karl as your only real center. that's a disaster.


Correct. They might have their reasons to trade Mitch, and I get they could have an urge to add (based on our fan based rumors) of an elite 3 point shooter with good defense in Tre Murphy or an elite defender with good 3 point shooting in Herb Jones.

But then the C rotation is.....20 mpg of semi soft KAT and a choice of poo-poo platter of Precious, Sims or Hawkpootie?

That would be some made scientist roster building as Leon Rose attempts to build first championship roster with zero interior presence.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1393 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:33 am

So, question.


Can the Knicks, after all the trading dust settles, go back and resign Morris and/or Shamet, or is that CBA illegal?
And if they don't quickly sign with someone else
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1394 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:47 am

Thinking out loud.

Only reasons Knicks are thinking of moving Mitch is that they feel they are in a chip window and would rather get a more reliable C to share the rotation with KAT OR they want another stretch 5/more versatile 5 to pair with KAT in the rotation.

Otherwise, they'd just wait for Mitch. And maybe they do and the rumors are ones that predate the KAT trade.


Other thought.

I get that teams have drafted players so they have cheap young talent to develop, to make internal gains, and that the Knicks are lacking picks going into the future, so I could be wrong with the upcoming statement:

It seems strange the Knicks are carrying TWO rookies, both eating up 15 man roster spots AND crucial salary slots, especially as they look to backfill backup PF and SG in the wake of trading Randle/Donte.

I think that IF Mitch gets traded, one of them is traded also.

I wonder if the New Orleans rumors are leaks to get Ainge moving on a Mitch/Kolek for Kessler/Clarkson deal.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1395 » by god shammgod » Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:54 am

thebuzzardman wrote:Thinking out loud.

Only reasons Knicks are thinking of moving Mitch is that they feel they are in a chip window and would rather get a more reliable C to share the rotation with KAT OR they want another stretch 5/more versatile 5 to pair with KAT in the rotation.

Otherwise, they'd just wait for Mitch. And maybe they do and the rumors are ones that predate the KAT trade.


Other thought.

I get that teams have drafted players so they have cheap young talent to develop, to make internal gains, and that the Knicks are lacking picks going into the future, so I could be wrong with the upcoming statement:

It seems strange the Knicks are carrying TWO rookies, both eating up 15 man roster spots AND crucial salary slots, especially as they look to backfill backup PF and SG in the wake of trading Randle/Donte.

I think that IF Mitch gets traded, one of them is traded also.

I wonder if the New Orleans rumors are leaks to get Ainge moving on a Mitch/Kolek for Kessler/Clarkson deal.


the rumor the kid from kftv said was that teams are calling them about mitch, not the other way around, probably because they just traded for a center so they think he might be available. but the knicks need a defensive center on the roster so if not him they gotta get someone.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1396 » by god shammgod » Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:57 am

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that's a pretty bad bench. i don't know about this. this might be one of those classic knicks big trade mistakes.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1397 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Sep 29, 2024 12:00 pm

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that's a pretty bad bench. i don't know about this. this might be one of those classic knicks big trade mistakes.


I don't think it's a bad bench. It's not a great bench, it's just ok.

Also, Bates-Diop was traded and Morris and Shamet were cut, so this guy is posting nonsense anyway.

Not sure if Knicks can go back and re-sign Morris and Shamet after cutting them.

No idea on the rules around those -9/-10 training camp contracts.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1398 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Sep 29, 2024 12:02 pm

god shammgod wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Thinking out loud.

Only reasons Knicks are thinking of moving Mitch is that they feel they are in a chip window and would rather get a more reliable C to share the rotation with KAT OR they want another stretch 5/more versatile 5 to pair with KAT in the rotation.

Otherwise, they'd just wait for Mitch. And maybe they do and the rumors are ones that predate the KAT trade.


Other thought.

I get that teams have drafted players so they have cheap young talent to develop, to make internal gains, and that the Knicks are lacking picks going into the future, so I could be wrong with the upcoming statement:

It seems strange the Knicks are carrying TWO rookies, both eating up 15 man roster spots AND crucial salary slots, especially as they look to backfill backup PF and SG in the wake of trading Randle/Donte.

I think that IF Mitch gets traded, one of them is traded also.

I wonder if the New Orleans rumors are leaks to get Ainge moving on a Mitch/Kolek for Kessler/Clarkson deal.


the rumor the kid from kftv said was that teams are calling them about mitch, not the other way around, probably because they just traded for a center so they think he might be available. but the knicks need a defensive center on the roster so if not him they gotta get someone.


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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1399 » by god shammgod » Sun Sep 29, 2024 12:09 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Thinking out loud.

Only reasons Knicks are thinking of moving Mitch is that they feel they are in a chip window and would rather get a more reliable C to share the rotation with KAT OR they want another stretch 5/more versatile 5 to pair with KAT in the rotation.

Otherwise, they'd just wait for Mitch. And maybe they do and the rumors are ones that predate the KAT trade.


Other thought.

I get that teams have drafted players so they have cheap young talent to develop, to make internal gains, and that the Knicks are lacking picks going into the future, so I could be wrong with the upcoming statement:

It seems strange the Knicks are carrying TWO rookies, both eating up 15 man roster spots AND crucial salary slots, especially as they look to backfill backup PF and SG in the wake of trading Randle/Donte.

I think that IF Mitch gets traded, one of them is traded also.

I wonder if the New Orleans rumors are leaks to get Ainge moving on a Mitch/Kolek for Kessler/Clarkson deal.


the rumor the kid from kftv said was that teams are calling them about mitch, not the other way around, probably because they just traded for a center so they think he might be available. but the knicks need a defensive center on the roster so if not him they gotta get someone.





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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1400 » by god shammgod » Sun Sep 29, 2024 12:12 pm

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that's a pretty bad bench. i don't know about this. this might be one of those classic knicks big trade mistakes.


I don't think it's a bad bench. It's not a great bench, it's just ok.

Also, Bates-Diop was traded and Morris and Shamet were cut, so this guy is posting nonsense anyway.

Not sure if Knicks can go back and re-sign Morris and Shamet after cutting them.

No idea on the rules around those -9/-10 training camp contracts.


mcbride is your top scorer off the bench. precious is kind of a fringe nba player if we're being honest. i don't know. the starters are gonna all have to play a lot.

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