KAT To The Knicks Part 2

[NYKinMIA]

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oy vey.

I love his shtick.

[NiceLikeChrist]

Blows my mind that people are still ignoring the fact that we very likely take the celtics 6 or 7 if we just have OG out there. Bottom line is that we traded away all our depth and picks for pieces we didn't really NEED. All we NEEDED was a center replacement for iHart after he left us for OKC and a secondary PG to facilitate things while Brunson rests

We didn't NEED mikal and we definitely didn't NEED kat. We were already a top 3 team in the league as is.

If you applied this logic to the Boston Celtics they likely don't win a title last year because they wouldn't have traded for Jrue and KP because they didn't "need' either of them. They gave up useful depth pieces and assets to get them and were clearly a top 3-5 team when healthy already.

Not saying this is the exact same situation but, you shouldn't avoid improving your talent level just because you may lose some depth in the process.

I would argue we didn't improve our talent at all. We lost more talent than we gained this offseason. iHart, Randle, DDV, Bojan, picks > Towns and Mikal

If we keep Randle and DDV and focus on getting a reliable big, not a star, and a reliable backup PG, not a star, we would still be ahead in talent over KAT and Mikal. We gave up way too much to get those 2.

[thebuzzardman]

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[Wildcat]

OG doesn’t sound too thrilled about the trade

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OG never sounds thrilled anyway lol. But I think he thought he was going to be a legit 3rd option on the team, especially given who was traded for him (the two guys who were the 3rd options on most nights). Then they brought in Mikal.

Circling back, doing the Bridges trade first instead of the KAT trade may have ruined the good vibes. I hope not but theres a chance of that now as opposed to what we probably all thought at the beginning of the offseason when the Bridges trade first happened.

I think he wanted to be here with Mikal. He resigned with us after we traded for Mikal. But he definitely sounds different about losing Randle and Donte imo.

He's feeling what the pro-Randle squad is feeling. We wanted to see what that January team could do.

[3toheadmelo]

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Blows my mind that people are still ignoring the fact that we very likely take the celtics 6 or 7 if we just have OG out there. Bottom line is that we traded away all our depth and picks for pieces we didn't really NEED. All we NEEDED was a center replacement for iHart after he left us for OKC and a secondary PG to facilitate things while Brunson rests

We didn't NEED mikal and we definitely didn't NEED kat. We were already a top 3 team in the league as is.

If you applied this logic to the Boston Celtics they likely don't win a title last year because they wouldn't have traded for Jrue and KP because they didn't "need' either of them. They gave up useful depth pieces and assets to get them and were clearly a top 3-5 team when healthy already.

Not saying this is the exact same situation but, you shouldn't avoid improving your talent level just because you may lose some depth in the process.

I would argue we didn't improve our talent at all. We lost more talent than we gained this offseason. iHart, Randle, DDV, Bojan, picks > Towns and Mikal

If we keep Randle and DDV and focus on getting a reliable big, not a star, and a reliable backup PG, not a star, we would still be ahead in talent over KAT and Mikal. We gave up way too much to get those 2.

Stars get u championships. Not role players

[Juco24]

Knicks trade Robinson yet?

[E-Balla]

Oh no I havent! check my post history...I've always called him soft...Not to mention,
if I was a Kat guy - I had plenty of times to trade for him in BAF and I didnt...

I love the Kat trade for us "in context". I saw some of the guys you wanted us to take instead- they dont give us a chance to win it all..
And even if you hate Kat and think he will flop you cant argue that if he fits in and plays to his potential that we DO NO T have a chance bro...
I'll give you the health concerns but disagree with almost everything else

Since you wanted to throw me in nothing but love for you though...

I will. He's not that guy. 19ppg on mediocre shooting percentages isn't taking us over the edge. The Pacers scored 124 points per 100 against us. The Sixers scored 118 points per 100 against us. He don't fix the reason we lost last year (lack of depth and defense). If OG and Mitch out again I don't see how he improves us even a little bit unless we trying to outgun Indiana and Philly with less offensive talent than they have.

Did you watch every one of our games bro in the playoffs?

I watched most of them twice even. Maxey got what he wanted. Embiid got every whistle ever. TJ, Hali, and Nembhard cooked us. Our defense was just awful. We had no control over the pace of games and our defense was swiss cheese especially without OG and Mitch. Brunson alone had our offense running smooth, that's not why we lost. Hell him, Miles, and Donte were cooking against Indy. We lost a game where they had 70 combined points.

[thebuzzardman]

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[NoDopeOnSundays]

Knicks trade Robinson yet?

Not yet, but Fila is debuting the Mitch 3s.






sham got his sneaker bot ready to buy them.

[Zenzibar]

Blows my mind that people are still ignoring the fact that we very likely take the celtics 6 or 7 if we just have OG out there. Bottom line is that we traded away all our depth and picks for pieces we didn't really NEED. All we NEEDED was a center replacement for iHart after he left us for OKC and a secondary PG to facilitate things while Brunson rests

We didn't NEED mikal and we definitely didn't NEED kat. We were already a top 3 team in the league as is.

If you applied this logic to the Boston Celtics they likely don't win a title last year because they wouldn't have traded for Jrue and KP because they didn't "need' either of them. They gave up useful depth pieces and assets to get them and were clearly a top 3-5 team when healthy already.

Not saying this is the exact same situation but, you shouldn't avoid improving your talent level just because you may lose some depth in the process.

I would argue we didn't improve our talent at all. We lost more talent than we gained this offseason. iHart, Randle, DDV, Bojan, picks > Towns and Mikal

If we keep Randle and DDV and focus on getting a reliable big, not a star, and a reliable backup PG, not a star, we would still be ahead in talent over KAT and Mikal. We gave up way too much to get those 2.

Do you think Rose and the team didn't look for these dudes, where are they exactly?


iHart was nice for us but is not on KAT's level. Divo was good for us but is not on Mikal's level. Bojan, had 1 good game and was a liability on defense. The picks are the nature of the game and we had a couple of good picks this year anyway.

[TerrenceClarke]

The Nastiest of Works....

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He got the Kevin seraphin bag in the post

People Brag about him shooting, but the mofo cant even back dudes down like that. Thats disgusting for a bigman. Randle Skillset is better, people just did not like him much as a person, so they skew the perception of his game.

All this dude will be doing is camping out in the playoffs.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Actually (Please Use More Appropriate Word) in real life.

You're a wind bag. Blow yourself away. You have been crying like a little girl about things and lying about or over exaggerating things to do so. Insulting everyone on the board. Non stop for two days.

Bye.

I'm insulting YOU and YOU keep mentioning me. I ain't say **** to you besides tell you you're beneath me and you're mad I won't engage while constantly talking about having me muted. But you unmuting to read me insult you because you want approval from daddy.

You are an insignificant dweeb. None of your posts have been insightful or factual in any way. Go play cry baby games with your and-1 boyfriend and blow away wind bag. You've been deemed obsolete.

Thanks. Bye.

[Knicksfan1992]

Blows my mind that people are still ignoring the fact that we very likely take the celtics 6 or 7 if we just have OG out there. Bottom line is that we traded away all our depth and picks for pieces we didn't really NEED. All we NEEDED was a center replacement for iHart after he left us for OKC and a secondary PG to facilitate things while Brunson rests

We didn't NEED mikal and we definitely didn't NEED kat. We were already a top 3 team in the league as is.

If you applied this logic to the Boston Celtics they likely don't win a title last year because they wouldn't have traded for Jrue and KP because they didn't "need' either of them. They gave up useful depth pieces and assets to get them and were clearly a top 3-5 team when healthy already.

Not saying this is the exact same situation but, you shouldn't avoid improving your talent level just because you may lose some depth in the process.

I would argue we didn't improve our talent at all. We lost more talent than we gained this offseason. iHart, Randle, DDV, Bojan, picks > Towns and Mikal

If we keep Randle and DDV and focus on getting a reliable big, not a star, and a reliable backup PG, not a star, we would still be ahead in talent over KAT and Mikal. We gave up way too much to get those 2.

I don't agree but I understand your above POV and why I'm hesitant to full on like this trade. If I had to rank current talent wise it i'd say:

Towns slightly ahead of Randle

small gap

Mikal

big gap

IHart
DDV

Bojan.

Again it depends on if you think the jump to Mikal from IHart and DDV is worth it.. If you don't then you'll probably feel similarly to how you feel.

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[NiceLikeChrist]

If you applied this logic to the Boston Celtics they likely don't win a title last year because they wouldn't have traded for Jrue and KP because they didn't "need' either of them. They gave up useful depth pieces and assets to get them and were clearly a top 3-5 team when healthy already.

Not saying this is the exact same situation but, you shouldn't avoid improving your talent level just because you may lose some depth in the process.

I would argue we didn't improve our talent at all. We lost more talent than we gained this offseason. iHart, Randle, DDV, Bojan, picks > Towns and Mikal

If we keep Randle and DDV and focus on getting a reliable big, not a star, and a reliable backup PG, not a star, we would still be ahead in talent over KAT and Mikal. We gave up way too much to get those 2.

Stars get u championships. Not role players

We already had 2, we made all these trades, sacrificed our depth and picks, and still have 2. So again, I don't see how we improved talent wise.

[Jadoogar]

As a neutral, I absolutely love this for the Knicks. I've never been a Randle fan and the team proved they can win without him in the playoffs. KAT has his flaws but he's a great fit for the current team, especially with Brunson. The defense and depth will definitely be a problem, especially since guys like OG, KAT and Robinson get hurt so much. But it's easier to find depth on the fringes.

Offensively this team will be fantastic (health permitting). Brunson/KAT pick & roll with bridges and OG in the corners and Hart crashing the boards. Defensively will be a challenge but they have the flexibility of playing Robinson with KAT in the playoffs (again, health permitting).

Odds are, Knicks don't make a move until near the trade deadline, but trading Mitch for a healthier rim protecting big like Kessler + a depth piece, or perhaps Grant Williams + Nick Richards, I think could set us up for a big time playoff run.

do the Knicks have any assets left? I know bridges trade took most of it.

[3toheadmelo]

The Nastiest of Works....

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He got the Kevin seraphin bag in the post

People Brag about him shooting, but the mofo cant even back dudes down like that. Thats disgusting for a bigman. Randle Skillset is better, people just did not like him much as a person, so they skew the perception of his game.

All this dude will be doing is camping out in the playoffs.

That’s what I was tryna tell 2010. This dude is not like that as a shot creator. He just be jacking up 3s.

[thebuzzardman]

Melo is deeper into the disinformation game these last few days than when the actual Melo was traded. Wild.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Tyler 21olek

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He looks like a villain in a movie, like the young loyal deputy to a corrupt Sheriff that's trying to help a corporation run Sylvester Stallone off his land.