KAT To The Knicks Part 2

[TrueWarrior]

Yeah I like the Precious fit as a starter next to Karl. Balances the team, at least how it is right now. Josh will still get more minutes, but I dont like the Karl and Mitch pair starting. Precious is better on the perimeter than Mitch and gives more size than Josh. With Karl here his lack of shooting wouldn’t be as glaring either.

Starters:

Jalen
Mikal
OG
Precious
Karl

Bench:

Deuce
Josh
Mitch

Situational/Development:

Tyler
Cam
Landry
Pacome
Jericho
Ariel

[Jonathan2347]

What is the final deal ? Any chance we get Kessler ?

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[god shammgod]

being bad at defense while playing center is very different than being bad at defense while playing the 4

prior to the trade who was going to be playing the 5 with mitch out for months?

i guess precious or sims. it was gonna be a problem but it was gonna be 2 months of a problem.

[Guano]

He's one of the 5 biggest spot up threats in the league and when Randle went out he averaged 21/4/3 on 58 TS% when Randle was out (4.6/12 from deep per night!) and averaged 18 PPG in the playoffs on 56 TS% while maintaining his overall efficiency (his turnovers were down in the playoffs so he had a 120 ORTG in both the playoffs and regular season).

It cannot be understated how much losing Donte brings our offense back. The only players over him in expected points off spot up attempts (which takes efficiency and volume into account to determine how many points the player contributed above the median player) are PG13, Norman Powell, CJ McCollum, and Jalen Brunson.

It really can't be understated how much having 2 of the 5 most dangerous spot up threats carried our offense and made things easy for people and the idea of a 5 out offense with Josh Hart at the 2 instead of Donte is laughable. Maybe we'll have the use Deuce, but last year is by far his best season spotting up can he recreate that?

Also I'll mention this again, Donte scored more PPG against Indy than KAT has ever scored against anybody in the playoffs at 1/5th of his cost. There's a reason Minny wanted him, and it's because when you take contracts into account he's the most valuable player in the deal. Minny has a great squad now.

Idk how much thibs is going to lean into that 5 out stuff with the big purr as a C. If mitch comes back or we land a legit C we are prolly seeing a lot of mikal at the 2 spot. if 5 out is happening Hart is going to be important for rebounding.

Donte shot lights out last year. I just think with the addition of the big purr and mikal that will not drop off. He wasn't a great perimeter defender and Deuce will do better there. I just don't see his production being missed with how this team is constructed.

That said, he was on a great deal. And including him in this trade kinda sucks cause it takes away some depth. But I just don't think he was a needle mover.

I get that... He was certainly the needle mover for Minny and I think their FO made the right call here. Donte is going to be a 18-20 point scorer for them I think.

Then it's best the knicks set him free because there wasn't an opportunity for him to shine like that here.

[Im Coming Home]

Be man enough to type direct rebuttals instead of doing the hoe **** next time.

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I'm responding to multiple posts, so I didn't bother quoting multiple posts. People can read broski. I'm clearly not scared to call people out here, why would I suddenly be scared to do so with you bro when I've quoted you multiple times?

Nobody else posted clips of KAT's defense but sure multiple posts.

Other people have also talked about KATs defense. I've never been scared to quote people bro, why would I be now?

[Im Coming Home]

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Its in rebuttal to all the KAT defense questions, people acting like we replaced a lockdown defender in Randle, with a turnstile in KAT, most stats show both are bad defenders but Randle is a lot worse.

Enough with trying to police people discussing the two major pieces in the TRADE thread.

I posted some clips about KAT's defense. You said "since we wanna post KAT defense clips as if Randle..." And right there I stopped reading because I didn't post clips because of Randle. The clips I sent had nothing to do with Randle. Stop deflecting. That **** not on the team.

And if you're going to post **** in direct responses to me don't get mad I tell you you're deflecting and posting nonsense when you are. Nobody said Randle was a good defender in here. Nobody implied it. Randle being a bad defender doesn't make KAT more worth $56 million a year.

Ignore him fam. He’s the king of sneak dissing and deflecting. A top tier clown that no one takes seriously around here.

Bro projecting hard right now.

[Guano]

I guess if KAT doesn't have the right 'hard' make up to handle NY I'm going to need that compilation video filled of him feuding with an arena full of fans, teammates, assistant coaches, random electronic devices so I have it ready for reference material...thanks in advance...I'll wait.

Listen, Randle can shoot someone on 5th ave rn and he will not lose a single supporter

Randle stans are often misunderstood.

The raw, palpable emotion of this video will help you understand better the type of relationship they had with Randle.

This is art.

mrs. guano was stoked on the song choice. Perked up 'is that milli vanilli'

[Im Coming Home]

being bad at defense while playing center is very different than being bad at defense while playing the 4

prior to the trade who was going to be playing the 5 with mitch out for months?

i guess precious or sims. it was gonna be a problem but it was gonna be 2 months of a problem.

They're saying Mitch isn't being rushed back and we're hearing January are the earliest, so.. more than 2 months.

[3toheadmelo]

being bad at defense while playing center is very different than being bad at defense while playing the 4

prior to the trade who was going to be playing the 5 with mitch out for months?

i guess precious or sims. it was gonna be a problem but it was gonna be 2 months of a problem.

Now we have a problem for another 4 years instead lol

[god shammgod]

prior to the trade who was going to be playing the 5 with mitch out for months?

i guess precious or sims. it was gonna be a problem but it was gonna be 2 months of a problem.

They're saying Mitch isn't being rushed back and we're hearing January are the earliest, so.. more than 2 months.

they're not saying any specific date. but he's walking around normally which means he aint that bad.

[3toheadmelo]

I posted some clips about KAT's defense. You said "since we wanna post KAT defense clips as if Randle..." And right there I stopped reading because I didn't post clips because of Randle. The clips I sent had nothing to do with Randle. Stop deflecting. That **** not on the team.

And if you're going to post **** in direct responses to me don't get mad I tell you you're deflecting and posting nonsense when you are. Nobody said Randle was a good defender in here. Nobody implied it. Randle being a bad defender doesn't make KAT more worth $56 million a year.

Ignore him fam. He’s the king of sneak dissing and deflecting. A top tier clown that no one takes seriously around here.

Bro projecting hard right now.

That’s why you have more posts than likes


And then you gonna use that wack excuse you joined realgm before the and1 feature came out yet people that been here longer got more likes than posts. Gotta take a look in the mirror lmfaoooo

[aggo]

u guys literally watched myles turner and embiid-maxey play 5 out and still think there;s gonna be someone around to defend the paint.


the entire purpose is that against the real teams, the backline rim defender is the guy defending the corner 3. it wont be the center.


again, you saw this in the playoffs against indiana and Philly. but go on.


Boston got around this by pre-switching Horford off ball so that he defends the corner 3. they did this vs the mavs every single game.

even we did this, when we took OG off maxey and put him in the corner to defend Tobias Harris.

[mpharris36]

being bad at defense while playing center is very different than being bad at defense while playing the 4

prior to the trade who was going to be playing the 5 with mitch out for months?

i guess precious or sims. it was gonna be a problem but it was gonna be 2 months of a problem.

Precious is still going to play. And Sims blows so I hope everyone is good with Sims not playing.

Precious will be playing alonside KAT as well.

Also Mitch just closed on a home in NY and was in NY today. Who says he is officially getting traded?

Aller is pretty strong with the cap. I don't think they are just moving Mitch for bums. They still value him.

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[Guano]

Yeah I like the Precious fit as a starter next to Karl. Balances the team, at least how it is right now. Josh will still get more minutes, but I dont like the Karl and Mitch pair starting. Precious is better on the perimeter than Mitch and gives more size than Josh. With Karl here his lack of shooting wouldn’t be as glaring either.

Starters:

Jalen
Mikal
OG
Precious
Karl

Bench:

Deuce
Josh
Mitch

Situational/Development:

Tyler
Cam
Landry
Pacome
Jericho
Ariel

Not a chance that thibs benches Hart for precious.

Though I don't know how long thibs will be okay with stats starting towns as the C.

Going to be real interesting to see how this all shakes out. Especially when injuries start to happen.

[E-Balla]

Idk how much thibs is going to lean into that 5 out stuff with the big purr as a C. If mitch comes back or we land a legit C we are prolly seeing a lot of mikal at the 2 spot. if 5 out is happening Hart is going to be important for rebounding.

Donte shot lights out last year. I just think with the addition of the big purr and mikal that will not drop off. He wasn't a great perimeter defender and Deuce will do better there. I just don't see his production being missed with how this team is constructed.

That said, he was on a great deal. And including him in this trade kinda sucks cause it takes away some depth. But I just don't think he was a needle mover.

I get that... He was certainly the needle mover for Minny and I think their FO made the right call here. Donte is going to be a 18-20 point scorer for them I think.

Then it's best the knicks set him free because there wasn't an opportunity for him to shine like that here.

He shined like that here last year, why assume it wouldn't be needed this year? Never know who gets hurt, and depending on the matchup and need him and Hart can change out who starts and closes games.

[god shammgod]

prior to the trade who was going to be playing the 5 with mitch out for months?

i guess precious or sims. it was gonna be a problem but it was gonna be 2 months of a problem.

Precious is still going to play. And Sims blows so I hope everyone is good with Sims not playing.

Precious will be playing alonside KAT as well.

Also Mitch just closed on a home in NY and was in NY today. Who says he is officially getting traded?

Aller is pretty strong with the cap. I don't think they are just moving Mitch for bums. They still value him.

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we don't know that. and he's not good at center full time. you can survive a little while. we've survived with sims starting for awhile. kat at center full time....not good.

[JayTWill]

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He had to go. It was like walking on eggshells around this dude. Chemistry will be a lot better.

I'm gonna side with his teammates on this one. We've seen time after time these guys have gone to bat for this dude. Even today. For all accounts, he was beloved in that locker room.

I don't know Randle personally or if he is a good or a bad teammate but what exactly do you expect them to say about him? Do you think they would publicly trash him if they didn't like him? They may truly love him but even if they didn't they are professionals.

[3toheadmelo]

u guys literally watched myles turner and embiid-maxey play 5 out and still think there;s gonna be someone around to defend the paint.


the entire purpose is that against the real teams, the backline rim defender is the guy defending the corner 3. it wont be the center.


again, you saw this in the playoffs against indiana and Philly. but go on.


Boston got around this by pre-switching Horford off ball so that he defends the corner 3. they did this vs the mavs every single game.

even we did this, when we took OG off maxey and put him in the corner to defend Tobias Harris.

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[E-Balla]

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I'm responding to multiple posts, so I didn't bother quoting multiple posts. People can read broski. I'm clearly not scared to call people out here, why would I suddenly be scared to do so with you bro when I've quoted you multiple times?

Nobody else posted clips of KAT's defense but sure multiple posts.

Other people have also talked about KATs defense. I've never been scared to quote people bro, why would I be now?

You specifically pointed out me posting clips but ight.

[E-Balla]

prior to the trade who was going to be playing the 5 with mitch out for months?

i guess precious or sims. it was gonna be a problem but it was gonna be 2 months of a problem.

Precious is still going to play. And Sims blows so I hope everyone is good with Sims not playing.

Precious will be playing alonside KAT as well.

Also Mitch just closed on a home in NY and was in NY today. Who says he is officially getting traded?

Aller is pretty strong with the cap. I don't think they are just moving Mitch for bums. They still value him.

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If he's not getting traded the team we have is what we get because 3 vet minimum contracts out us over the 2nd apron. I'm hoping we trade Mitch because if not it's going to be a long season when guys inevitably go down.