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KAT To The Knicks Part 2

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Re: KAT To The Knicks Part 2 

Post#1981 » by Reign23 » Thu Oct 3, 2024 3:10 pm

god shammgod wrote:y'all insult people unprovoked for their basketball opinions and then claim you're victims somehow lol

you are kidding right? each and every single provocation/dispute in the last 1-2 years has had the same poster in it. And he is getting called out more and more now.
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Re: KAT To The Knicks Part 2 

Post#1982 » by Context » Thu Oct 3, 2024 3:13 pm

god shammgod wrote:y'all insult people unprovoked for their basketball opinions and then claim you're victims somehow lol

Prior to last season I havent been around since Mitch was drafted. I didn't see one Randle play off game. Didn't participate
in any of the RJ wars and whatever other wars/debates- that existed. I think that based on that -its fair to say that I'm not bias
to either side.

I will tell you this though Sham I hate seeing this divide at what's clearly one of our best periods in Knick history.

How do we get both sides to forgive each other and move forward so we all can enjoy this Brunson run?
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Re: KAT To The Knicks Part 2 

Post#1983 » by E-Balla » Thu Oct 3, 2024 3:15 pm

E-Balla wrote:I'm finna do an RAPM projection. RAPM loves KAT offensively, loves our top 7 actually. I'm going to base the minutes off our rotation and do games played by the average over the last 2 seasons for each player.

RAPM projection has us as a 44.8 win team. The optimistic projection (using KAT's pre Gobert RAPM value and Mikal's Phoenix RAPM projection) has us at 51.6.

Ignoring injuries and using a:

Mitch (30)/KAT(18)
KAT(18)/OG(22)/Precious(8)
OG(14)/Hart(10)/Mikal(24)
Mikal(12)/McBride(18)/Hart(20)
Brunson(36)/CamPayne(12)

Breakdown we're a 51.4 win team at full strength on the modest projection and a 61.3 win team on the positive projection (note: the positive projection assumes we're going to get the best version of every player in our rotation by taking their career high in 5 year RAPM - the most notable flub is gaining more wins from CamPayne than Deuce).

Wide window but at a theoretical full strength we look competitive with every team but Boston and OKC. Our RAPM projection hasn't increased meaningfully, neither did our modest full strength projections but our positive full strength projection has gone from 57.7 wins to 61.3 which is a significant gap.

EDIT: More on the full strength modest and positive gap - the difference is the modest projection is based mostly off Mikal's more recent Brooklyn play with no non Brooklyn prior. We gain 5.1 just off Mikal alone, most of the rest of it is CamPayne and KAT. OG, Hart, Brunson, and Mitch are about the same on both projections.

I got us as a 46 win team probably, close to a 60 win team at full strength, but I'm not sure if we'll ever see a fully healthy squad.
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Re: KAT To The Knicks Part 2 

Post#1984 » by E-Balla » Thu Oct 3, 2024 3:16 pm

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I watched this game this was on Ant. He ballhogged until KAT was cold because he didn't want him to get 70 it was wild petty lmao.
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Re: KAT To The Knicks Part 2 

Post#1985 » by F N 11 » Thu Oct 3, 2024 3:17 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:This is difficult! I have to tell myself, stay above the fray bro, it's not worth it! Every time I see MORE dumb shyt being said! It's not worth it. Enjoy the best team you have had on 25-30years if not longer. Enjoy the board where fellow Knicks fans are here for it. Ignore the saggy diapers that leak because they are being obtuse. It's one thing to not be happy with something. It's a whole other level of misery loves company when you cherry pick and make shyt up to bring everyone down. Homer vs hater? At least the homer is having fun. WTF is the hater doing? Being a bytch!

Walk away. :lol:

Obvious troll job. It’s hard not to bite bc it gets annoying. You see the same thing in comments on Twitter bc they all coping the same way following each other.
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Post#1986 » by DimesandKnicks » Thu Oct 3, 2024 3:17 pm

E-Balla wrote:
WargamesX wrote:
E-Balla wrote:It ain't random he's been hated. It's funny to me though because he's so hated MFs would rather trade his last year, an elite shooter, and a first for a scrub making 56 million and a man that averaged 2 ppg in Europe.


That's why the hate is random, he doesn't deserve it. Especially from a fanbase that still stans Carmelo Anthony.

The only thing he ever did wrong was give the crowd the thumbs down and people have held a grudge like he middle fingered their mother ever since.

People bring up bad playoffs like we would have made it there without him, or were use to going to the playoffs before he got here. Even if we're on to better things its corny to keep hating one of the best players to have played here in the last 20 years.

Personally he's not my favorite, but I don't get hating him. At least with Melo he was paid like a star which handicapped us when building the team and he demanded a trade here.

Julius gave us top 30-40 level seasons on a contract that was under top 50 his whole time here. I can't get mad at a player we pay like a top 60 guy because he's not a top 10 guy that's not how my brain operates. He had his flaws, but he got paid like it and theoretically we were able to build a roster around him to cover those flaws with that cap space (and I think we did that).

No way I'm cheering for giving $224 million to a guy that's good for 19 ppg on 58 TS%. We got that from a **** making $11 million we traded for KAT.


I think the hate his more about his game
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Re: KAT To The Knicks Part 2 

Post#1987 » by DaGawd » Thu Oct 3, 2024 3:18 pm

Context wrote:
god shammgod wrote:y'all insult people unprovoked for their basketball opinions and then claim you're victims somehow lol

Prior to last season I havent been around since Mitch was drafted. I did see one Randle play off game. Didn't participate
in any of the RJ wars and whatever other wars/debate that existed. I think that based on that its fair to say that I'm not bias
to either side.

I will tell you this though Sham I hate seeing this divide at what's clearly one of our best periods in Knick history.

How do we get both sides to forgive eachother and move forward so we all can enjoy this Brunson run?

the games just have to start, folks are going to their opinions set in stone like religion until it’s debunked
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Post#1988 » by F N 11 » Thu Oct 3, 2024 3:18 pm

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Good for them fresh start
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Post#1989 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Oct 3, 2024 3:20 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:With Donte gone, Kolek is gonna get a shot to be in the rotation. If his defense holds up, he might be nice


It won't.
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Re: KAT To The Knicks Part 2 

Post#1990 » by E-Balla » Thu Oct 3, 2024 3:21 pm

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E-Balla wrote:
WargamesX wrote:
That's why the hate is random, he doesn't deserve it. Especially from a fanbase that still stans Carmelo Anthony.

The only thing he ever did wrong was give the crowd the thumbs down and people have held a grudge like he middle fingered their mother ever since.

People bring up bad playoffs like we would have made it there without him, or were use to going to the playoffs before he got here. Even if we're on to better things its corny to keep hating one of the best players to have played here in the last 20 years.

Personally he's not my favorite, but I don't get hating him. At least with Melo he was paid like a star which handicapped us when building the team and he demanded a trade here.

Julius gave us top 30-40 level seasons on a contract that was under top 50 his whole time here. I can't get mad at a player we pay like a top 60 guy because he's not a top 10 guy that's not how my brain operates. He had his flaws, but he got paid like it and theoretically we were able to build a roster around him to cover those flaws with that cap space (and I think we did that).

No way I'm cheering for giving $224 million to a guy that's good for 19 ppg on 58 TS%. We got that from a **** making $11 million we traded for KAT.


I think the hate his more about his game

My point is he wasn't being paid to be better. I'm not putting those expectations on him.
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Post#1991 » by Capn'O » Thu Oct 3, 2024 3:21 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
god shammgod wrote:y'all insult people unprovoked for their basketball opinions and then claim you're victims somehow lol

They have the worst self awareness :lol:


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Post#1992 » by F N 11 » Thu Oct 3, 2024 3:22 pm

Man **** the timberwolves
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Re: KAT To The Knicks Part 2 

Post#1993 » by E-Balla » Thu Oct 3, 2024 3:23 pm

jvsimonetti0514 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:y'all insult people unprovoked for their basketball opinions and then claim you're victims somehow lol


Bunch of Cry bullies on this website :lol:

The **** funny. They can't even stay consistent or figure out what argument they wanna have either. **** tossing threats over the internet in here then claiming they don't read your posts. :lol:
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Post#1994 » by Capn'O » Thu Oct 3, 2024 3:26 pm

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i miss the hell out of this theme


So smooth. So classy. So saxy.
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Post#1995 » by F N 11 » Thu Oct 3, 2024 3:28 pm

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i miss the hell out of this theme


So smooth. So classy. So saxy.

That’s a classic right there. The sax in the old school themes undefeated.
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Re: KAT To The Knicks Part 2 

Post#1996 » by aggo » Thu Oct 3, 2024 3:32 pm

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Re: KAT To The Knicks Part 2 

Post#1997 » by mpharris36 » Thu Oct 3, 2024 3:33 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:With Donte gone, Kolek is gonna get a shot to be in the rotation. If his defense holds up, he might be nice


It won't.



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Thibs be like f*ck dem kids...but I think Kolek is really going to have to show out like IQ did early to earn PT.

Thibs naturally is going to lean vet early...
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Re: KAT To The Knicks Part 2 

Post#1998 » by Gravy » Thu Oct 3, 2024 3:34 pm

I dont understand anything about the CBA. This guy is saying the Knicks were not supposed to be able to trade for a player like KAT but still found a way to bend the rules to make it happen

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Post#1999 » by TheGreenArrow » Thu Oct 3, 2024 3:34 pm

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Post#2000 » by NYKinMIA » Thu Oct 3, 2024 3:34 pm

Knicksfan1992 wrote:Worth noting that a lot of KAT's missed games from the COVID years were because it seems, genetically, he's pre-disposed to having a rough time with COVID. His mom and six other family members passed because of it and I believe he was hospitalized and put on bed rest because of it when he had it. He missed 13 games when he got it. An abnormally large chunk. He's been relatively a durable player up until last year.

nah, that's not true.

he's just soft.

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