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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#241 » by Big J » Sat Oct 5, 2024 12:28 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:The good news this week is that the Cards don't really have a burner WR. Those are the types that have given us a lot of trouble - assuming we actually put a CB on their best player instead of leaving two safeties on him. We should win this one easily, but it scares the heck out of me given the way our defense has played against any semi-competent team.


This one will be easy. The game we need to be scared of will happen on Thursday.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#242 » by CrimsonCrew » Sat Oct 5, 2024 5:00 am

Big J wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:The good news this week is that the Cards don't really have a burner WR. Those are the types that have given us a lot of trouble - assuming we actually put a CB on their best player instead of leaving two safeties on him. We should win this one easily, but it scares the heck out of me given the way our defense has played against any semi-competent team.


This one will be easy. The game we need to be scared of will happen on Thursday.


Let's hope you're right. I'm worried about both. The Cardinals beat the Rams badly, and we still managed to lose to the Rams.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#243 » by Big J » Sat Oct 5, 2024 1:43 pm

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CrimsonCrew wrote:The good news this week is that the Cards don't really have a burner WR. Those are the types that have given us a lot of trouble - assuming we actually put a CB on their best player instead of leaving two safeties on him. We should win this one easily, but it scares the heck out of me given the way our defense has played against any semi-competent team.


This one will be easy. The game we need to be scared of will happen on Thursday.


Let's hope you're right. I'm worried about both. The Cardinals beat the Rams badly, and we still managed to lose to the Rams.


Cardinals D is much worse than the Rams. Washington just sliced them up.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#244 » by CrimsonCrew » Sat Oct 5, 2024 3:14 pm

Big J wrote:
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Big J wrote:
This one will be easy. The game we need to be scared of will happen on Thursday.


Let's hope you're right. I'm worried about both. The Cardinals beat the Rams badly, and we still managed to lose to the Rams.


Cardinals D is much worse than the Rams. Washington just sliced them up.


I'm not at all worried about our offense. I'm worried about defense and STs.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#245 » by Big J » Sat Oct 5, 2024 4:27 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:
Big J wrote:
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Let's hope you're right. I'm worried about both. The Cardinals beat the Rams badly, and we still managed to lose to the Rams.


Cardinals D is much worse than the Rams. Washington just sliced them up.


I'm not at all worried about our offense. I'm worried about defense and STs.


Have you seen the Commanders D? They have nobody on that side of the ball. We at least have a couple of big names in Bosa & Warner. Hell, Warner might be the frontrunner for DPOY at this point with how he's playing.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#246 » by arich35 » Sat Oct 5, 2024 8:51 pm

Gross-Matos now on the IR
DL is going through it right now.

Flannigan-Fowles is out tomorrow. Warner is questionable
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#247 » by CrimsonCrew » Sat Oct 5, 2024 9:10 pm

Big J wrote:
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Big J wrote:
Cardinals D is much worse than the Rams. Washington just sliced them up.


I'm not at all worried about our offense. I'm worried about defense and STs.


Have you seen the Commanders D? They have nobody on that side of the ball. We at least have a couple of big names in Bosa & Warner. Hell, Warner might be the frontrunner for DPOY at this point with how he's playing.


And yet we couldn't get off the field against the Rams or Vikings.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#248 » by CrimsonCrew » Sat Oct 5, 2024 9:10 pm

arich35 wrote:Gross-Matos now on the IR
DL is going through it right now.

Flannigan-Fowles is out tomorrow. Warner is questionable


FML. What's his injury?
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#249 » by Big J » Sun Oct 6, 2024 1:16 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:
Big J wrote:
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I'm not at all worried about our offense. I'm worried about defense and STs.


Have you seen the Commanders D? They have nobody on that side of the ball. We at least have a couple of big names in Bosa & Warner. Hell, Warner might be the frontrunner for DPOY at this point with how he's playing.


And yet we couldn't get off the field against the Rams or Vikings.


Maybe the offense needs to start playing a more ball control style so that the D has longer to rest in between series.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#250 » by Jikkle » Sun Oct 6, 2024 9:56 am

Big J wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:
Big J wrote:
Have you seen the Commanders D? They have nobody on that side of the ball. We at least have a couple of big names in Bosa & Warner. Hell, Warner might be the frontrunner for DPOY at this point with how he's playing.


And yet we couldn't get off the field against the Rams or Vikings.


Maybe the offense needs to start playing a more ball control style so that the D has longer to rest in between series.


We lead the league in time of possession so the D shouldn't need any more rest.

What the D needs to figure out is its 3rd down defense because they blow plenty of prime opportunities to get off the field. It would be one thing if offenses were converting 3rd and 3s but they consistently convert 3rd and 7+. 3rd and 7+ is exactly where you want the opposing offense but strangely I feel like this defense defends 3rd and short better than it does 3rd and long.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#251 » by Jikkle » Sun Oct 6, 2024 10:04 am

We should beat the Cardinals but this team does not have a great history under the Shanahan era when it comes to playing them.

It's one of my biggest gripe with the Shanahan era in that the team just doesn't always play with the crispness you would expect from a top-tier team.

Don't get me wrong not every game against every team is just going to be this well-orchestrated well-oiled machine rolling over teams especially in today's NFL with parity being at an all-time but I just think we see too much sloppiness and self-inflicted wounds against teams we have no business playing that way against.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#252 » by thesack12 » Sun Oct 6, 2024 11:36 am

Big J wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:
Big J wrote:
Have you seen the Commanders D? They have nobody on that side of the ball. We at least have a couple of big names in Bosa & Warner. Hell, Warner might be the frontrunner for DPOY at this point with how he's playing.


And yet we couldn't get off the field against the Rams or Vikings.


Maybe the offense needs to start playing a more ball control style so that the D has longer to rest in between series.


The 49ers lead the NFL in time of possession at 34:37, which is 1:24 more than 2nd place Pittsburgh.

Last season (with you know how piloting the run game) the 49ers were 8th in the NFL in time of possession at 31:06.

Simple math: The 49ers have had the ball 3:31 more per game this season.

In other words, the 49er defense is getting more rest than any other team in the league and substantially more than last season.

Maybe if the defense could somehow manage not to be dreadful on 3rd downs (26th in the NFL at 46% conversion allowed rate) they would be able to rest all the more.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#253 » by Harry Palmer » Sun Oct 6, 2024 6:50 pm

thesack12 wrote:
Big J wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:
And yet we couldn't get off the field against the Rams or Vikings.


Maybe the offense needs to start playing a more ball control style so that the D has longer to rest in between series.


The 49ers lead the NFL in time of possession at 34:37, which is 1:24 more than 2nd place Pittsburgh.

Last season (with you know how piloting the run game) the 49ers were 8th in the NFL in time of possession at 31:06.

Simple math: The 49ers have had the ball 3:31 more per game this season.

In other words, the 49er defense is getting more rest than any other team in the league and substantially more than last season.

Maybe if the defense could somehow manage not to be dreadful on 3rd downs (26th in the NFL at 46% conversion allowed rate) they would be able to rest all the more.


I don’t like calling you a liar, but if the above were true that would mean the defensive issues aren’t somehow on Purdy, so that can’t be correct.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#254 » by Big J » Sun Oct 6, 2024 11:29 pm

Anyone else starting to believe Bill Simmons theory that this is our "year from hell"?
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#255 » by wco81 » Sun Oct 6, 2024 11:45 pm

This roster probably peaked a year ago, right at the Cowboys game.

Injuries don't help but even if injuries derail the season, next season, a lot of key players will be older and they're more likely to be subject to injuries.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#256 » by Big J » Mon Oct 7, 2024 12:03 am

wco81 wrote:This roster probably peaked a year ago, right at the Cowboys game.

Injuries don't help but even if injuries derail the season, next season, a lot of key players will be older and they're more likely to be subject to injuries.


Really gotta think hard about that Purdy extension.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#257 » by Jikkle » Mon Oct 7, 2024 12:06 am

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/1fva0hj/oc_how_the_seattle_seahawks_ruined_defensive/

Long read so don't recommend it for everybody.

Just supports my idea that the defense has hit it's expiration and we need to scrap it for what's relevant for going against today's offenses.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#258 » by wco81 » Mon Oct 7, 2024 4:03 pm

Aiyuk finally had a big game and had 8 receptions while Kittle also had 8.

Jennings, Deebo and Mason each had 1 reception.

Running game was working well too but seems like they should have opened it up more, especially in the second half. The big turnovers and the injury to the kicker kept them off the scoreboard.

I don't know if Pearsall would help the offense more or now that they're in a hole, Shanahan isn't going to put in a rookie or worry about getting him snaps when they have many must-wing games for about the next month or two.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#259 » by Pattersonca65 » Mon Oct 7, 2024 5:38 pm

Jikkle wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/1fva0hj/oc_how_the_seattle_seahawks_ruined_defensive/

Long read so don't recommend it for everybody.

Just supports my idea that the defense has hit it's expiration and we need to scrap it for what's relevant for going against today's offenses.


LOL, that was a bit long and I just scanned through it. Pete Carroll was actually a George Seifert disciple and the defense he installed in Seattle has quite a bit from Seifert's defense in SF. As the article states Carroll defense was not complicated. He didn't do alot. The defense sound tackling and people being the right spots. This has always been a copycat league although trying to draft that type of Talent Seattle had during the LOB years is another story.
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Re: 2024 49ers Season 

Post#260 » by CrimsonCrew » Mon Oct 7, 2024 6:33 pm

Big J wrote:Anyone else starting to believe Bill Simmons theory that this is our "year from hell"?


Hard to question it at this point. This team just doesn't seem to have it. We're in the easy part of our schedule and we keep finding ways to lose. How is this team ever going to stop the legit offenses we play, and score on the legit defenses we play?

Re: a Purdy extension, we don't have to think about it at all right now because it's a moot point until the end of the season. So as said once or twice before, let's just wait and see how he looks at that time.

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