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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#101 » by Bensational » Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:52 pm

Skybox wrote:People aren't even taking sides here...we all just have different takes on what we've seen (vs what we're simply hoping for - which isn't the same thing). Wouldn't everybody on this board be thrilled if AB IS a formidable PG? like he was drafted to be. It's only been one season but...we haven't SEEN it yet - doesn't mean anyone's rooting against him or ( :evil: ) has an AGENDA. :banghead:


The weirdest thing is that this is all about what AB did last season, when we're 2 games into preseason of this current season and AB is clearly already being used on-ball a lot more, and he's showing a lot of what wasn't "seen" last season. AB is in a superposition of development right now, and he hasn't settled into his final form by a long way, but it should be clear that the team is developing him to take on PG duties, and whether or not he can handle that and be any good at it is up to him.
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#102 » by dsg2021 » Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:30 pm

Jalen Suggs as a PG will go very well. Sit him in a room watching, one, Derek Fisher clips all day. Because that kind of PG will go great with our All Star point forwards. And two, watching Dwyane Wade drives all day. Because Jalen Suggs has a special knack for drives even in half-court. We won’t go into the Playoffs again putting Suggs at 1 all of a sudden after a season of not doing it much. Now, it will look very good. That’s not to say you don’t be opportunistic with a star PG upgrade one day, but now it’s more of a position 1 and 2 opportunities instead of just 1.

Franz and Paolo will continue growing and excelling as point forwards. They are way too young to be even anywhere near their highest plateaus of gritty, experienced, cerebral playmaking. And yet they are already showing how quickly they will reach it. That’s not to say they both wouldn’t do very well with a on-ball type guard, but that guard has to definitely be very special or just as good off-ball (read, shooter).

The Magic are unpredictable and patiently slow/stubborn as a FO, but I’ll put some money down that with their smart contracts left and right, they might trade one center and one guard this season. And they’re not loaded with incoming picks, but at the same time they have all the picks they need for a blockbuster too.

JI might be starting center for many games and for most of the much more important playoffs. I think the Magic will try to get him to intimidate and patrol in the schemes more this year, somehow. Doesn’t mean he will play more than 20-26 MPG though or play every game.

Someone will surprise us a lot, a lot this season. It might be one of the more prime veterans, but man oh man do I think there’s one or two Magic youngsters who can explode this season too.
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#103 » by JoshuaPotter » Tue Oct 15, 2024 12:30 pm

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Is this the new definition of "agenda" - basically not seeing it exactly as you?

Kind of like how "literally" and "amazing" and "Patriot" have been largely bastardized in recent years.


Just seems like a lot of mental gymnastics happens on here to state he isn’t a PG. besides Franz has no clue, right?


The quote, ironically, reminds me of TRoss commenting after a couple of days of camp opening that (then rookie) Franz can really shoot it! :roll:

People aren't even taking sides here...we all just have different takes on what we've seen (vs what we're simply hoping for - which isn't the same thing). Wouldn't everybody on this board be thrilled if AB IS a formidable PG? like he was drafted to be. It's only been one season but...we haven't SEEN it yet - doesn't mean anyone's rooting against him or ( :evil: ) has an AGENDA. :banghead:


Clearly...I hate Franz too :roll:


Clearly Skybox....clearly. Do you even Magic fan?
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#104 » by JoshuaPotter » Tue Oct 15, 2024 12:41 pm

I am still hard on the AB train. Now there is a legitimate person ahead of him potentially in KCP / Suggs on the starting lineup though so we will see where AB falls into the depth chart.
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#105 » by Skybox » Tue Oct 15, 2024 2:21 pm

JoshuaPotter wrote:
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Just seems like a lot of mental gymnastics happens on here to state he isn’t a PG. besides Franz has no clue, right?


The quote, ironically, reminds me of TRoss commenting after a couple of days of camp opening that (then rookie) Franz can really shoot it! :roll:

People aren't even taking sides here...we all just have different takes on what we've seen (vs what we're simply hoping for - which isn't the same thing). Wouldn't everybody on this board be thrilled if AB IS a formidable PG? like he was drafted to be. It's only been one season but...we haven't SEEN it yet - doesn't mean anyone's rooting against him or ( :evil: ) has an AGENDA. :banghead:


Clearly...I hate Franz too :roll:


Clearly Skybox....clearly. Do you even Magic fan?


I'm a hopeful realist...not sure what some others here are watching. I'm excited for my team, which has made so much progress...but seems to want to pump the brakes all the time. I see what I see...my lenses are clear.
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#106 » by JoshuaPotter » Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:09 pm

Skybox wrote:
JoshuaPotter wrote:
Skybox wrote:
The quote, ironically, reminds me of TRoss commenting after a couple of days of camp opening that (then rookie) Franz can really shoot it! :roll:

People aren't even taking sides here...we all just have different takes on what we've seen (vs what we're simply hoping for - which isn't the same thing). Wouldn't everybody on this board be thrilled if AB IS a formidable PG? like he was drafted to be. It's only been one season but...we haven't SEEN it yet - doesn't mean anyone's rooting against him or ( :evil: ) has an AGENDA. :banghead:


Clearly...I hate Franz too :roll:


Clearly Skybox....clearly. Do you even Magic fan?


I'm a hopeful realist...not sure what some others here are watching. I'm excited for my team, which has made so much progress...but seems to want to pump the brakes all the time. I see what I see...my lenses are clear.


Main reason of me coming back was so I could burst peoples bubbles. So I get you. I just enjoy the occasional nonsensical homer argument. Having blind optimism can be entertaining if you let it happen.

Realistically speaking though, AB is on track. If he continues to show flashes and the game continues to slow down for him all the better. He was clearly young, raw, and couldn't shoot coming out of college.
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#107 » by jezzerinho » Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:40 pm

Word out of the league meetings with owners is that the officiating is going to be much much lighter this season, a la FIBA.

If true, my prediction is our incredible FT rate will drop a fair bit. Puts pressure on our shooters to make up the difference.
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#108 » by JoshuaPotter » Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:41 pm

jezzerinho wrote:Word out of the league meetings with owners is that the officiating is going to be much much lighter this season, a la FIBA.

If true, my prediction is our incredible FT rate will drop a fair bit. Puts pressure on our shooters to make up the difference.


Those goes both ways though right? We can be more physical?
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#109 » by jezzerinho » Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:49 pm

Sure, I agree, but it's a pretty decent bet that a team that benefitted heavily from paint calls is going to suffer when fewer paint calls are made.
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#110 » by Knightro » Tue Oct 15, 2024 4:26 pm

jezzerinho wrote:Sure, I agree, but it's a pretty decent bet that a team that benefitted heavily from paint calls is going to suffer when fewer paint calls are made.


I do think it cuts both ways. The Magic were No. 1 in the NBA in fouls draw, but were also 8th in fouls committed.

Being an overly physical team with size and length defensively should be helpful. But if the refs don't call as many fouls, an already grisly offense could be a tough watch...
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#111 » by ogmagicfan » Wed Oct 16, 2024 6:45 am

-46 wins, 6 seed
-Around 20th in Offense
-Top 4 defense
-Paolo will take another leap, 24-25, 7-8, & 6, fringe All-NBA team
-Franz will average similar numbers & percentages as last season, 3 pt % will be around 30%
-Suggs will see a slight increase in production 15, 3, 4
WCJ & Isaac will both play 60+ games this season
-Anthony Black will come off the bench for the season.
-Jett Howard will do the same but with a shorter tolerance and Da Silva coming in for certain matchups/injuries
-We'll be in trade rumors at the deadline, but nothing happens
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#112 » by anothermagicfan » Wed Oct 16, 2024 9:30 pm

Ok let me give this a shot
42-52 wins
Top 2 defense
16-21 offense
Paolo-26/7/7 shooting 44/40/73
Franz proves well worthy of his max
JI plays more games than misses
Cole loses more minutes
Jett shows some real promise
TDS is viewed as a steal at his draft position
Suggs and KCP backcourt works
Very few blowout losses
First round exit
No trades
Bronny makes the all-star game and is in top 5 league MVP voting
AB shows growth
Eyriq and Knightro argue all season
But who wins the bet?
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#113 » by eyriq » Wed Oct 16, 2024 9:47 pm

anothermagicfan wrote:Eyriq and Knightro argue all season
But who wins the bet?


Who indeed?!!!
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#114 » by anothermagicfan » Wed Oct 16, 2024 9:54 pm

eyriq wrote:
anothermagicfan wrote:Eyriq and Knightro argue all season
But who wins the bet?


Who indeed?!!!




I forgot the parameters of the bet so I didn't feel right making that prediction lol
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#115 » by eyriq » Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:45 pm

anothermagicfan wrote:
eyriq wrote:
anothermagicfan wrote:Eyriq and Knightro argue all season
But who wins the bet?


Who indeed?!!!




I forgot the parameters of the bet so I didn't feel right making that prediction lol
Cole beats AB in every on-ball metric plus playing time. Pretty much Cole has to decisively be a more dominant playmaker for himself and others in every way, and has to have a bigger role.
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#116 » by drsd » Thu Oct 17, 2024 7:00 am

All the pressers that the team looks to be a 12-15 offense and a top-5 defense, I am moving up my expectation for a win total to 52.

And if the Magic don't make round-2 of the playoffs, I will feel this was a failed season. Expectations NEED to be high for this season.
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#117 » by pepe1991 » Thu Oct 17, 2024 7:17 am

drsd wrote:All the pressers that the team looks to be a 12-15 offense and a top-5 defense, I am moving up my expectation for a win total to 52.

And if the Magic don't make round-2 of the playoffs, I will feel this was a failed season. Expectations NEED to be high for this season.


12-15 offense? :o :eek1:
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#118 » by GelbeWand09 » Thu Oct 17, 2024 9:02 am

pepe1991 wrote:
drsd wrote:All the pressers that the team looks to be a 12-15 offense and a top-5 defense, I am moving up my expectation for a win total to 52.

And if the Magic don't make round-2 of the playoffs, I will feel this was a failed season. Expectations NEED to be high for this season.


12-15 offense? :o :eek1:


That perhaps even surpasses his Playoffs + 40+ win predictions in our tanking/or just being bad seasons. :lol:
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#119 » by drsd » Thu Oct 17, 2024 10:41 am

pepe1991 wrote:12-15 offense? :o :eek1:


Lat year the Magic was 18th in ORTG. Is an upgrade to 15 really that unrealistic to you?

EDIT: CBSsport has the Magic as 22 in "2023-24 offensive ranking", what ever that is. And predicts the Magic to rise to 21.

CBS: Which NBA teams will have best (and worst) offenses this season?
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#120 » by drsd » Thu Oct 17, 2024 10:43 am

GelbeWand09 wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:12-15 offense? :o :eek1:


That perhaps even surpasses his Playoffs + 40+ win predictions in our tanking/or just being bad seasons. :lol:


There is no way I should-have have predicted 40+ wins in Suggs/F-Wagner's rookie year. If I did, I am glad I quit drinking!

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