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Should we be concerned that Hart is essentially scoreless in pre-season?

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Re: Should we be concerned that Hart is essentially scoreless in pre-season? 

Post#21 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Oct 14, 2024 7:03 pm

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Re: Should we be concerned that Hart is essentially scoreless in pre-season? 

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Re: Should we be concerned that Hart is essentially scoreless in pre-season? 

Post#23 » by Knicksfan1992 » Mon Oct 14, 2024 7:31 pm

While I am not concerned at all with anything in Pre-Season tbh, I do think this brings up an interesting point I've been thinking about...I think the Knicks are at the stage of team-building where they need to "sacrifice" certain games to get some guys some higher usage to be prepared for playoff basketball.

For example, I saw an interview with Jaylen Brown this summer where he basically said with games against the Pistons or other bottom feeders, they would have Payton Pritchard "run things" to get him some reps so if they need him in the playoffs to be on-ball he'd be ready.

Knicks should have some designated "Hart" or "Deuce" games where maybe Deuce plays 5-10 minutes more running more pick and roll and iso while JB and Towns kind of take a backseat.

That kind of stuff even if it ends up in a loss could have future dividends down the line.
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Re: Should we be concerned that Hart is essentially scoreless in pre-season? 

Post#24 » by Guano » Mon Oct 14, 2024 7:34 pm

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Re: Should we be concerned that Hart is essentially scoreless in pre-season? 

Post#25 » by Context » Mon Oct 14, 2024 7:44 pm

Here's what we need to concern ourselves with:
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Re: Should we be concerned that Hart is essentially scoreless in pre-season? 

Post#26 » by E-Balla » Mon Oct 14, 2024 7:46 pm

I be forgetting he averaged 20 in Portland lol. Elite glue guy I'm not worried at all he's great out there.
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Re: Should we be concerned that Hart is essentially scoreless in pre-season? 

Post#27 » by sol537 » Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:07 pm

Knicksfan1992 wrote:While I am not concerned at all with anything in Pre-Season tbh, I do think this brings up an interesting point I've been thinking about...I think the Knicks are at the stage of team-building where they need to "sacrifice" certain games to get some guys some higher usage to be prepared for playoff basketball.

For example, I saw an interview with Jaylen Brown this summer where he basically said with games against the Pistons or other bottom feeders, they would have Payton Pritchard "run things" to get him some reps so if they need him in the playoffs to be on-ball he'd be ready.

Knicks should have some designated "Hart" or "Deuce" games where maybe Deuce plays 5-10 minutes more running more pick and roll and iso while JB and Towns kind of take a backseat.

That kind of stuff even if it ends up in a loss could have future dividends down the line.


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Re: Should we be concerned that Hart is essentially scoreless in pre-season? 

Post#28 » by Nazrmohamed » Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:09 pm

Not at all for now. He's gotta see where he fits in and he's by and large been doing all the little 50/50 types of things he's always done. The only issue I really had was last night where he didnt attempt a shot. But we know he can score and cause disruption.
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Re: Should we be concerned that Hart is essentially scoreless in pre-season? 

Post#29 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:07 pm

I'm not worried at all. He's an effort guy that's playing in games that teams aren't trying 100%. Plus there's a lot of new guys on the roster now and there's going to be a little bit of a learning curve. He's the 5th option with the starters and he's not going to get a ton of touches. I know he's going to find way to be productive cuz he always does.
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Re: Should we be concerned that Hart is essentially scoreless in pre-season? 

Post#30 » by Rodimus921 » Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:10 pm

Not worried he's the glue guy. Can finish.. plays hard D and Rebounds like Charles barkley
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Re: Should we be concerned that Hart is essentially scoreless in pre-season? 

Post#31 » by cldbld » Tue Oct 15, 2024 4:12 am

Right now? Not at all, when they're losing? Sure.
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Re: Should we be concerned that Hart is essentially scoreless in pre-season? 

Post#32 » by WaltFrazier » Tue Oct 15, 2024 2:53 pm

Fat wrote:To me he is just surveying the field. Theirs been multiple plays where I think he knows he can drive and score or make an open shot but turned it down ultimately.

Hart is playing chess out there


But shouldn't he be practicing those things in games?
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Re: Should we be concerned that Hart is essentially scoreless in pre-season? 

Post#33 » by Fat » Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:11 pm

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Fat wrote:To me he is just surveying the field. Theirs been multiple plays where I think he knows he can drive and score or make an open shot but turned it down ultimately.

Hart is playing chess out there


But shouldn't he be practicing those things in games?


If he’s already comfortable with his abilities and role I don’t see it as a big issue. No real reason to go all out in pre-season.
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Re: Should we be concerned that Hart is essentially scoreless in pre-season? 

Post#34 » by WaltFrazier » Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:24 pm

Fat wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:
Fat wrote:To me he is just surveying the field. Theirs been multiple plays where I think he knows he can drive and score or make an open shot but turned it down ultimately.

Hart is playing chess out there


But shouldn't he be practicing those things in games?


If he’s already comfortable with his abilities and role I don’t see it as a big issue. No real reason to go all out in pre-season.


He's gotta take a few shots and drives though, don't you think?
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Re: Should we be concerned that Hart is essentially scoreless in pre-season? 

Post#35 » by stuporman » Wed Oct 16, 2024 12:20 pm

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Re: Should we be concerned that Hart is essentially scoreless in pre-season? 

Post#36 » by Wildcat » Wed Oct 16, 2024 12:29 pm

While I prefer Josh off the bench, I think what he's doing right now is purposeful.
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Re: Should we be concerned that Hart is essentially scoreless in pre-season? 

Post#37 » by Wildcat » Wed Oct 16, 2024 12:31 pm

WaltFrazier wrote:
Fat wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:
But shouldn't he be practicing those things in games?


If he’s already comfortable with his abilities and role I don’t see it as a big issue. No real reason to go all out in pre-season.


He's gotta take a few shots and drives though, don't you think?


I think you're looking for an issue that's not there. Let's talk about this after the Boston game.
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Re: Should we be concerned that Hart is essentially scoreless in pre-season? 

Post#38 » by BrOnXKing1 » Wed Oct 16, 2024 12:49 pm

I think he would be more useful on the bench and move Preecious to the staring lineup
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Re: Should we be concerned that Hart is essentially scoreless in pre-season? 

Post#39 » by Tomato Sauce » Wed Oct 16, 2024 12:49 pm

Not concerned at all.

Kat needs points
OG needs points
Brunson needs points
Bridges needs points

There are only so many points in a game you can acquire. If Hart is looking to score also, then he is taking touches away from other people.

He needs to be able to hit the open 3 when he is left open and make the occasional drive/cut to the basket.

What Hart does well is facilitate. He is an exceptional passer with good vision and touch. Also a great rebounder and solid defender.

If he’s not scoring, he is still being useful on the floor.

What I would like to see, is Hart having a few more touches on the offensive end to better utilize his passing ability. Our offense could be even more deadly with the ball in Harts hands and having Brunson/Kat/OG/Miles off the ball.
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Re: Should we be concerned that Hart is essentially scoreless in pre-season? 

Post#40 » by Bob Ross » Wed Oct 16, 2024 12:52 pm

No its preseason

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