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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#121 » by pepe1991 » Thu Oct 17, 2024 10:44 am

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pepe1991 wrote:12-15 offense? :o :eek1:


Lat year the Magic was 18th in ORTG. Is an upgrade to 15 really that unrealistic to you?


Last year they were 22# offense.

Their offensive index was closer to Pistons (3rd worst) than 76ers (15th - average).
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#122 » by J-Mezzy » Thu Oct 17, 2024 11:13 am

I’m super hyped for this season

I think 50 wins is the goal
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#123 » by eyriq » Thu Oct 17, 2024 1:49 pm

J-Mezzy wrote:I’m super hyped for this season

I think 50 wins is the goal
Agreed. We need to be average on offense and elite on defense. Wolves of the East.
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#124 » by J-Mezzy » Thu Oct 17, 2024 1:51 pm

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J-Mezzy wrote:I’m super hyped for this season

I think 50 wins is the goal
Agreed. We need to be average on offense and elite on defense. Wolves of the East.



Hopefully Paolo makes a decent jump as I don’t see much else where we improve offensively
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#125 » by eyriq » Thu Oct 17, 2024 2:41 pm

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eyriq wrote:
J-Mezzy wrote:I’m super hyped for this season

I think 50 wins is the goal
Agreed. We need to be average on offense and elite on defense. Wolves of the East.



Hopefully Paolo makes a decent jump as I don’t see much else where we improve offensively
Lowering turnovers in general will do wonders
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#126 » by J-Mezzy » Thu Oct 17, 2024 3:16 pm

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J-Mezzy wrote:
eyriq wrote:Agreed. We need to be average on offense and elite on defense. Wolves of the East.



Hopefully Paolo makes a decent jump as I don’t see much else where we improve offensively
Lowering turnovers in general will do wonders



That will come down to Paolo and Suggs improving. There is hope but still a concern imo
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#127 » by RichCollab » Fri Oct 18, 2024 3:00 am

I’m curious if the team starts to out grow Mose or if Mose keeps his growth up. Next 2 years will be telling.

I would love for us to add a strong offensive assistant coach.
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#128 » by RichCollab » Fri Oct 18, 2024 3:02 am

J-Mezzy wrote:
eyriq wrote:
J-Mezzy wrote:

Hopefully Paolo makes a decent jump as I don’t see much else where we improve offensively
Lowering turnovers in general will do wonders



That will come down to Paolo and Suggs improving. There is hope but still a concern imo


Franz being an average shooter would open up a lot of things.
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#129 » by Knightro » Fri Oct 18, 2024 1:12 pm

The only thing I don’t like is this implication that seems to exist that I don’t want Anthony Black to succeed or be a point guard or whatever.

I want him to be awesome! I want him to play point guard!

I have nothing against him whatsoever. I loved him as a prospect and still feel strongly about him.

But I’m not gonna sit here and straight up *pretend* like he wasn’t used a pure 3&D spot shooter last year like 95% of the time when he clearly was.

That doesn’t mean I think that’s what his role is going to be forever or should moving forward. That’s just what it was last year and that’s all we have to go off of at this time.
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#130 » by Skybox » Fri Oct 18, 2024 1:16 pm

Knightro wrote:The only thing I don’t like is this implication that seems to exist that I don’t want Anthony Black to succeed or be a point guard or whatever.

I want him to be awesome! I want him to play point guard!

I have nothing against him whatsoever. I loved him as a prospect and still feel strongly about him.

But I’m not gonna sit here and straight up *pretend* like he wasn’t used a pure 3&D spot shooter last year like 95% of the time when he clearly was.

That doesn’t mean I think that’s what his role is going to be forever or should moving forward. That’s just what it was last year and that’s all we have to go off of at this time.


ditto...I can't wait to hear the "Gotcha" BS if he does as well as we ALL hope. Critiquing what we've actually seen isn't "hating" (to some of us)
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#131 » by JoshuaPotter » Fri Oct 18, 2024 1:26 pm

Things I am buying into....
AB improving

Things I am selling
Organization reupping mediocre oft injured Center rotation

Things I am looking to sell hard
Mosely being the possible weakest link...
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#132 » by JoshuaPotter » Fri Oct 18, 2024 1:27 pm

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Knightro wrote:The only thing I don’t like is this implication that seems to exist that I don’t want Anthony Black to succeed or be a point guard or whatever.

I want him to be awesome! I want him to play point guard!

I have nothing against him whatsoever. I loved him as a prospect and still feel strongly about him.

But I’m not gonna sit here and straight up *pretend* like he wasn’t used a pure 3&D spot shooter last year like 95% of the time when he clearly was.

That doesn’t mean I think that’s what his role is going to be forever or should moving forward. That’s just what it was last year and that’s all we have to go off of at this time.


ditto...I can't wait to hear the "Gotcha" BS if he does as well as we ALL hope. Critiquing what we've actually seen isn't "hating" (to some of us)


I agree it was absolutely disgusting watching AB flourish as a 3&D playing guard in favor of a broomstick at PG.
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#133 » by eyriq » Fri Oct 18, 2024 2:27 pm

Knightro wrote:The only thing I don’t like is this implication that seems to exist that I don’t want Anthony Black to succeed or be a point guard or whatever.

I want him to be awesome! I want him to play point guard!

I have nothing against him whatsoever. I loved him as a prospect and still feel strongly about him.

But I’m not gonna sit here and straight up *pretend* like he wasn’t used a pure 3&D spot shooter last year like 95% of the time when he clearly was.

That doesn’t mean I think that’s what his role is going to be forever or should moving forward. That’s just what it was last year and that’s all we have to go off of at this time.
No one is pretending he wasn't used as a spot-up shooter/defensive specialist. Literally no one.

The argument has been about his playmaking ability (can he be a primary or secondary playmaker), and his position (did he play point guard, are we developing him as a point guard).
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#134 » by Knightro » Fri Oct 18, 2024 4:41 pm

eyriq wrote:No one is pretending he wasn't used as a spot-up shooter/defensive specialist. Literally no one.

The argument has been about his playmaking ability (can he be a primary or secondary playmaker), and his position (did he play point guard, are we developing him as a point guard).


Based purely off last year, which is all I've ever been talking about, the answers to the two questions you asked are simply not what you think they are.

If you use someone almost exclusively as a spot-up shooter/defensive specialist, A. they're not showcasing any playmaking ability they might posses and B. you're not developing them as a point guard.

I understand you don't agree with/accept that, but I don't really care because it's factual information.

Will that change this year? Perhaps, but I still think it's gonna be hard to jaws of life the basketball out of Cole Anthony's hands.
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#135 » by Knightro » Fri Oct 18, 2024 4:45 pm

Back to predictions, on the latest episode of The Bill Simmons podcast, all three of them (Simmons, Ryen Russillo and Joe House) all predicted the Magic would finish OVER their Vegas win total of 47.5.

https://www.theringer.com/the-bill-simmons-podcast/2024/10/15/24271315/annual-nba-over-unders-all-divisions-with-ryen-russillo-joe-house
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#136 » by RichCollab » Fri Oct 18, 2024 4:54 pm

Knightro wrote:Back to predictions, on the latest episode of The Bill Simmons podcast, all three of them (Simmons, Ryen Russillo and Joe House) all predicted the Magic would finish OVER their Vegas win total of 47.5.

https://www.theringer.com/the-bill-simmons-podcast/2024/10/15/24271315/annual-nba-over-unders-all-divisions-with-ryen-russillo-joe-house


I’m at 50 wins but it’s going to be much more challenging than last year to just match our win total.
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#137 » by eyriq » Fri Oct 18, 2024 5:20 pm

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eyriq wrote:No one is pretending he wasn't used as a spot-up shooter/defensive specialist. Literally no one.

The argument has been about his playmaking ability (can he be a primary or secondary playmaker), and his position (did he play point guard, are we developing him as a point guard).


Based purely off last year, which is all I've ever been talking about, the answers to the two questions you asked are simply not what you think they are.

If you use someone almost exclusively as a spot-up shooter/defensive specialist, A. they're not showcasing any playmaking ability they might posses and B. you're not developing them as a point guard.

I understand you don't agree with/accept that, but I don't really care because it's factual information.

Will that change this year? Perhaps, but I still think it's gonna be hard to jaws of life the basketball out of Cole Anthony's hands.
"facts" lol

Most sites considered him a point guard last year, as they do this year. The inability to recognize his position is the only reason why someone would bet on Cole over AB.
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#138 » by Knightro » Fri Oct 18, 2024 5:33 pm

eyriq wrote:"facts" lol

Most sites considered him a point guard last year, as they do this year. The inability to recognize his position is the only reason why someone would bet on Cole over AB.


Someone being listed as a point guard, but not actually performing any traditional or non-traditional point guard duties doesn't mean they were actually playing point guard.

I'm just not going to go back and forth with you on this anymore. You're incorrect and every time you argue it, it just genuinely makes me annoyed :lol:

Ideally? This year? I hope you will be correct and he will get actual point guard reps rather than just being instructed to stand in the corner and do nothing on virtually every halfcourt set.

But last year that isn't what happened. Flat out.
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#139 » by Bensational » Fri Oct 18, 2024 9:42 pm

Knightro wrote:Based purely off last year, which is all I've ever been talking about, the answers to the two questions you asked are simply not what you think they are.

If you use someone almost exclusively as a spot-up shooter/defensive specialist, A. they're not showcasing any playmaking ability they might posses and B. you're not developing them as a point guard.

I understand you don't agree with/accept that, but I don't really care because it's factual information.


Newsflash: that’s not a fact, that’s your wildly incorrect assumption.

Gary Harris, Houstan and KCP are the definition of being used exclusively as a spot-up shooter/defensive specialist. None of those guys have ever been charged with even the simplest of PG duties like bringing the ball up. None of them have been mentioned as taking on PG duties this preseason. That’s an example of someone who isn’t being developed as a PG.

AB was introduced to the role last season, and is being given a larger role this preseason - and everyone from coaches to players are talking about it. He is clearly being developed as a PG, and if you think it only started this offseason then you’re just wrong.

Mosley didn’t wake up one morning and think “you know what, maybe I should try AB at PG? Crazy idea, I know, because he absolutely hasn’t been developed to be on up to this point and there’s no reason to believe he could be one, but I didn’t take my crazy pills so let’s just try it”.
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Re: Predictions for the 2024/25 Season 

Post#140 » by MasterGMer » Fri Oct 18, 2024 10:11 pm

My prediction is AB and Jett will be in the rotation since Day 1 of Regular season. Prove me wrong, Coach Mose
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