GT: Our Knicks vs Melo's Celtics 10/22/24 7:30 PM on TNT

[3toheadmelo]

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Soooo true Folksssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We made a massive anti Thibs trade. Our rugged play style is gone and defensively we’re much worse. Have to hope this new team is better than our past identity, but so far it doesn’t look like it.

[Guano]

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this sht is so lame

knicks aren't a softer team cause their strategy is to play a modern offense instead of flooding the paint to grab offensive boards.

[3toheadmelo]

Celtics 126
Knicks 93

knicks win on the way to a fiddy win season - capture the division - 1st seed. brunson top 3 in mvp. og dpoy. melo banned. this is going to be the best knicks season ever.

LFG!!1!!11!

[Guano]

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Soooo true Folksssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We made a massive anti Thibs trade. Our rugged play style is gone and defensively we’re much worse. Have to hope this new team is better than our past identity, but so far it doesn’t look like it.

the trade didn't make us "softer" lets be real here. kat isn't any softer than randle - both have questionable make up and defensive deficiencies. we don't have a true C right now. losing iHart changed the make up of the team.

all that said we have much tougher wings this year than last year.

it's just weak to say we are a finesse team now when really we just played an ugly style or hoops last year

[thebuzzardman]

Bridges is as tough as Donte. Just because Randle got swapped for KAT doesn't mean the team is suddenly so less "rugged". Lazy journalism that is also a set up for a season long narrative in his articles.
Sports journalism is such ****. Well, 99% ****.

[thebuzzardman]

Bondy article sounds like he's rating men at a gay lumberjack bar. "Oh, not rugged enough for me. Next."

[StlHawksFan]

Some questions:

Is Hart going to start? If so, is our entire bench other than Sims/Hukporti 6'2"?

Are we going to see Bridges in Suns form or Brooklyn form? Or will it be preseason Knicks form?

Is this the season where we finally stop letting opposing end of bench scrubs go off and shoot 8 for 11 from 3?

[Guano]

Bridges is as tough as Donte. Just because Randle got swapped for KAT doesn't mean the team is suddenly so less "rugged". Lazy journalism that is also a set up for a season long narrative in his articles.
Sports journalism is such ****. Well, 99% ****.

buzz and guan0 the voices of reason.

[Jalen Bluntson]

10 packs of Oreos every week and you have a deal

I get that you are joking a lot of the time(I didn't always) but, it does kinda feel like spam and people can't always differentiate. Just like when Buzz hooks a few fish with his constant doom and gloom. Perhaps green font would help calm people down so we can discuss the team and not have the threads devolve into people arguing with you.

By the way...I love all of the Oreo images you find. You're gonna have your feet cut off one day!

Green font is too much work at this point it’s just if you know, you know. I don’t really respond to anyone who takes my jokes dead serious

Well..that is what started our beef I think. traffic is much slower than it used to be so, most should know better by now. carry on Standle!!

[thebuzzardman]

Some questions:

Is Hart going to start? If so, is our entire bench other than Sims/Hukporti 6'2"?

Are we going to see Bridges in Suns form or Brooklyn form? Or will it be preseason Knicks form?

Is this the season where we finally stop letting opposing end of bench scrubs go off and shoot 8 for 11 from 3?

The sub pattern will be Deuce in for Bridges, Hart for OG, and Bridges back in, etc.
Deuce will get 36 minutes off the bench.
Payne will get 12 backing up Brunson.
Sims will get 12 backing up KAT (where the game gets lost)
There will always be 3 starters playing with the "bench"
Maybe only 2 starters for extremely short durations

[mpharris36]

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We made a massive anti Thibs trade. Our rugged play style is gone and defensively we’re much worse. Have to hope this new team is better than our past identity, but so far it doesn’t look like it.

the trade didn't make us "softer" lets be real here. kat isn't any softer than randle - both have questionable make up and defensive deficiencies. we don't have a true C right now. losing iHart changed the make up of the team.

all that said we have much tougher wings this year than last year.

it's just weak to say we are a finesse team now when really we just played an ugly style or hoops last year

Yeah KAT isn't a soft player at all. He is actually pretty physical from what I have seen.

We lost Ihart regardless and Mitch was going to miss the start of the year regardless so we always were going to have to change our offensive identity from being reliant on offensive rebounds.

The trade certainly didn't make us a worse offensive rebounding team. If anything KAT is a better rebounder than Randle. Now we will be reliant on spacing more so I wouldn't necessarily say "softer" team. I would say more skilled team. Which isn't a bad thing. Our offense last year was a lot of smoke and mirrors because it relied on Brunson to do pretty much everything (after Randle went down) and then our 2nd best offensive play was a missed shot because we were such a great off rebounding team. Not sure how sustainable that would have been considering Ihart and Mitch weren't going to be here to start the year trade or no trade.

I also don't see how the moves made us worse defensively.

KAT I think is slightly better than Randle and Mikal is replacing DD which is an improvement defensively.

I'm looking at these moves solely on there own accord...you can't compare last year to this year because Ihart was bouncing regardless so we were always going to play a different style especially with Mitch hurt as well.

[Fury]

Bridges is as tough as Donte. Just because Randle got swapped for KAT doesn't mean the team is suddenly so less "rugged". Lazy journalism that is also a set up for a season long narrative in his articles.
Sports journalism is such ****. Well, 99% ****.

buzz and guan0 the voices of reason.

[stuporman]

The media, even sports media, doesn't give us facts anymore, they are storytellers that prefer to craft a fanciful narrative that gets attention instead of speak about reality accurately.

[mpharris36]

forced to become less reliant on offensive rebounds from two moves out of our control (Ihart leaving and Mitch injury) = Soft

Lazy journalism.

[Guano]

We made a massive anti Thibs trade. Our rugged play style is gone and defensively we’re much worse. Have to hope this new team is better than our past identity, but so far it doesn’t look like it.

the trade didn't make us "softer" lets be real here. kat isn't any softer than randle - both have questionable make up and defensive deficiencies. we don't have a true C right now. losing iHart changed the make up of the team.

all that said we have much tougher wings this year than last year.

it's just weak to say we are a finesse team now when really we just played an ugly style or hoops last year

Yeah KAT isn't a soft player at all. He is actually pretty physical from what I have seen.

We lost Ihart regardless and Mitch was going to miss the start of the year regardless so we always were going to have to change our offensive identity from being reliant on offensive rebounds.

The trade certainly didn't make us a worse offensive rebounding team. If anything KAT is a better rebounder than Randle. Now we will be reliant on spacing more so I wouldn't necessarily say "softer" team. I would say more skilled team. Which isn't a bad thing. Our offense last year was a lot of smoke and mirrors because it relied on Brunson to do pretty much everything (after Randle went down) and then our 2nd best offensive play was a missed shot because we were such a great off rebounding team. Not sure how sustainable that would have been considering Ihart and Mitch weren't going to be here to start the year trade or no trade.

I also don't see how the moves made us worse defensively.

KAT I think is slightly better than Randle and Mikal is replacing DD which is an improvement defensively.

I'm looking at these moves solely on there own accord...you can't compare last year to this year because Ihart was bouncing regardless so we were always going to play a different style especially with Mitch hurt as well.

"finesse" team - not relying on offensive rebounds as our 2nd option

or there is just some misconception that randle is a tough player. when he melts during the end of games or goes in on staff/players. now kat can also be a dummy - just different ways - such as stupid fouls and shooting his team out of games. but this isn't a drop off in "toughness" just switching up problems. none of which is making the knicks a softer team.

no team with brunson, jHart, og and thibs coaching it is going to be "finesse"

[Guano]

i miss berman

[3toheadmelo]

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We made a massive anti Thibs trade. Our rugged play style is gone and defensively we’re much worse. Have to hope this new team is better than our past identity, but so far it doesn’t look like it.

the trade didn't make us "softer" lets be real here. kat isn't any softer than randle - both have questionable make up and defensive deficiencies. we don't have a true C right now. losing iHart changed the make up of the team.

all that said we have much tougher wings this year than last year.

it's just weak to say we are a finesse team now when really we just played an ugly style or hoops last year

Guan0 capping as usual

KAT’s defense at the 5 is way more detrimental than Randle’s at the 4. All of KAT’s teams at the 5 have been in the bottom of the league. That hasn’t been the case with Randle at the 4 under Thibs. KAT also playing like wcf KAT isn’t helping us offensively either.

So far Mikal has looked worse than Donte on both ends:

Ugly hoops > losing ball

[stuporman]

It probably is true that KAT is less of a rim protector than either Mitch or iHart is, he's not Randle level terrible, he's good but just not an elite at it. The Knicks got better on perimeter defense though so it's not like they became a team of matadors giving up layup lines.

The notion this team is softer is based solely on going from elite rim protection to only pretty good rim protection without adding in the context that the team now has elite perimeter defense at more positions and subtracting one pathetic defender from the front line.

[3toheadmelo]

Guan0 all of a sudden a big kat fan now. This man continues to amaze me lol

[FrozenEnvelope]

Team identity and jelling takes time and it isn't going to get done in one game or one week or even one month. We have the whole season to get there and there is nothing that tells us we won't get there. We have a good culture led by a veteran winning HC in Thibs and one of the best and most selfless leaders in Brunson.

Tonight is just ONE game. Win or lose, it's one game and fact is it won't mean a damn thing come May 2025 when we play them in the ECF. I just want to see improvement and adjustments. Stay above .500 and in the top 4 if possible by New Years and once we jell as a team, guys get comfortable in their roles, the best rotation is set, we will get ready to steam roll in the second half of the season and make a run in the playoffs!