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Re: WNBA players opt out of CBA 

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Post#22 » by hermes » Tue Oct 22, 2024 2:51 pm

the new economic model will be the biggest key i think. they need to get it set up so that if/when the media deal gets renegotiated in a few years, everything automatically jumps up without having to renegotiate the cba again (assuming the league can keep the growth going and they get a big spike in media dollars coming in)
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Post#23 » by Wingy » Wed Oct 23, 2024 11:54 am

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theforumblue wrote:I imagine the league is gonna want to see how much of the CC effect is sustained in the new season before talking numbers.


Could be bigger since she and the Fever are expected to be even better. They have the money to add FA, so they could quickly become a real dark horse contender if it gels right.

I hope there will be less focus on drama and more on the game. Sooner than later I think she’ll cease being the new girl, and just be “one of us.”

Hope she becomes a PU leader in the foreseeable future, obviously a huge voice in the league.


I think only way it goes up in a significant matter is if the CC effect really did get a lot of new fans to watch teams other than Fever. Otherwise I think there's a better chance that the attendance numbers cool off now that the novelty of "rookie year proving herself" thing isn't there anymore, along with less drama.

I don't think she'll be treated as "one of us" for a long time. certainly not enough to be anywhere near PU any time soon. I think with everything that happened this season a lot of players are going to want to see her be very vocal and active about certain things for a while before they can "embrace" her.


When you’re a star like Clark, winning and rising in the standings is more powerful than any rookie year novelty thing. People want to attach themselves to winning. The Fever will win more next season and be a higher seed.

I think she’ll be embraced very soon. All the supposed “hate” is overblown and primarily machinations in the minds of a certain segment of people that don’t care to support the league regardless, wherein their idea of Clark (not Clark herself) is only a support beam for their own personal world view.

Maybe it will be awhile, if ever, before she joins PU leadership. Not because of any of the bs you stated. More that incumbent people may stick to their positions for awhile which isn’t unusual in any elected office. Or, Caitlin may choose to use her time to stick to her business and off-court opportunities.
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Re: WNBA players opt out of CBA 

Post#24 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Oct 23, 2024 12:07 pm

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These are all reasonable demands. The league would be wise to not make this into a drawn out labor dispute
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Re: WNBA players opt out of CBA 

Post#25 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Oct 23, 2024 12:14 pm

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Could be bigger since she and the Fever are expected to be even better. They have the money to add FA, so they could quickly become a real dark horse contender if it gels right.

I hope there will be less focus on drama and more on the game. Sooner than later I think she’ll cease being the new girl, and just be “one of us.”

Hope she becomes a PU leader in the foreseeable future, obviously a huge voice in the league.


I think only way it goes up in a significant matter is if the CC effect really did get a lot of new fans to watch teams other than Fever. Otherwise I think there's a better chance that the attendance numbers cool off now that the novelty of "rookie year proving herself" thing isn't there anymore, along with less drama.

I don't think she'll be treated as "one of us" for a long time. certainly not enough to be anywhere near PU any time soon. I think with everything that happened this season a lot of players are going to want to see her be very vocal and active about certain things for a while before they can "embrace" her.


When you’re a star like Clark, winning and rising in the standings is more powerful than any rookie year novelty thing. People want to attach themselves to winning. The Fever will win more next season and be a higher seed.

I think she’ll be embraced very soon. All the supposed “hate” is overblown and primarily machinations in the minds of a certain segment of people that don’t care to support the league regardless, wherein their idea of Clark (not Clark herself) is only a support beam for their own personal world view.

Maybe it will be awhile, if ever, before she joins PU leadership. Not because of any of the bs you stated. More that incumbent people may stick to their positions for awhile which isn’t unusual in any elected office. Or, Caitlin may choose to use her time to stick to her business and off-court opportunities.


CC already said what she needed to say. Some people are just upset that she has rejected their garbage political agenda, so they have no choice now but to make up false narratives.
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Post#26 » by theforumblue » Wed Oct 23, 2024 3:28 pm

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I think only way it goes up in a significant matter is if the CC effect really did get a lot of new fans to watch teams other than Fever. Otherwise I think there's a better chance that the attendance numbers cool off now that the novelty of "rookie year proving herself" thing isn't there anymore, along with less drama.

I don't think she'll be treated as "one of us" for a long time. certainly not enough to be anywhere near PU any time soon. I think with everything that happened this season a lot of players are going to want to see her be very vocal and active about certain things for a while before they can "embrace" her.


When you’re a star like Clark, winning and rising in the standings is more powerful than any rookie year novelty thing. People want to attach themselves to winning. The Fever will win more next season and be a higher seed.

I think she’ll be embraced very soon. All the supposed “hate” is overblown and primarily machinations in the minds of a certain segment of people that don’t care to support the league regardless, wherein their idea of Clark (not Clark herself) is only a support beam for their own personal world view.

Maybe it will be awhile, if ever, before she joins PU leadership. Not because of any of the bs you stated. More that incumbent people may stick to their positions for awhile which isn’t unusual in any elected office. Or, Caitlin may choose to use her time to stick to her business and off-court opportunities.


CC already said what she needed to say. Some people are just upset that she has rejected their garbage political agenda, so they have no choice now but to make up false narratives.


you should know all about making up false narratives.
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Re: WNBA players opt out of CBA 

Post#27 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Oct 23, 2024 4:43 pm

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When you’re a star like Clark, winning and rising in the standings is more powerful than any rookie year novelty thing. People want to attach themselves to winning. The Fever will win more next season and be a higher seed.

I think she’ll be embraced very soon. All the supposed “hate” is overblown and primarily machinations in the minds of a certain segment of people that don’t care to support the league regardless, wherein their idea of Clark (not Clark herself) is only a support beam for their own personal world view.

Maybe it will be awhile, if ever, before she joins PU leadership. Not because of any of the bs you stated. More that incumbent people may stick to their positions for awhile which isn’t unusual in any elected office. Or, Caitlin may choose to use her time to stick to her business and off-court opportunities.


CC already said what she needed to say. Some people are just upset that she has rejected their garbage political agenda, so they have no choice now but to make up false narratives.


you should know all about making up false narratives.


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Post#28 » by KembaWalker » Wed Oct 23, 2024 5:30 pm

theforumblue wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Wingy wrote:
When you’re a star like Clark, winning and rising in the standings is more powerful than any rookie year novelty thing. People want to attach themselves to winning. The Fever will win more next season and be a higher seed.

I think she’ll be embraced very soon. All the supposed “hate” is overblown and primarily machinations in the minds of a certain segment of people that don’t care to support the league regardless, wherein their idea of Clark (not Clark herself) is only a support beam for their own personal world view.

Maybe it will be awhile, if ever, before she joins PU leadership. Not because of any of the bs you stated. More that incumbent people may stick to their positions for awhile which isn’t unusual in any elected office. Or, Caitlin may choose to use her time to stick to her business and off-court opportunities.


CC already said what she needed to say. Some people are just upset that she has rejected their garbage political agenda, so they have no choice now but to make up false narratives.


you should know all about making up false narratives.


Bros got an entire fanfiction written up in his head about a persons core belief system if they happen to post that they think CC took a couple directed cheap shots this past season.

I’m not sure what happens to cause someone to turn to amateur WNBA thought policing but I’m glad it didn’t happen to me
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Post#29 » by hermes » Wed Oct 23, 2024 5:40 pm

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These are all reasonable demands. The league would be wise to not make this into a drawn out labor dispute

there is always going to be greedy people. the players have the threat of a strike in their back pocket, but a strike could hurt the players more. it would kill all of the momentum that has been gained

there is some risk for the owners too (read a couple of articles saying that half the teams in the league would have folded if the 2020 season wasn't played, considering the league still isn't profitable yet a strike could doom some teams) but i think the bigger risk is to the players
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Post#30 » by theforumblue » Wed Oct 23, 2024 6:10 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:
CC already said what she needed to say. Some people are just upset that she has rejected their garbage political agenda, so they have no choice now but to make up false narratives.


you should know all about making up false narratives.


Bros got an entire fanfiction written up in his head about a persons core belief system if they happen to post that they think CC took a couple directed cheap shots this past season.

I’m not sure what happens to cause someone to turn to amateur WNBA thought policing but I’m glad it didn’t happen to me


it's projection at this point. dude out here just accusing people of doing what he does the most: white knighting.
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Post#31 » by Wingy » Wed Oct 23, 2024 7:28 pm

KembaWalker wrote:Bros got an entire fanfiction written up in his head about a persons core belief system if they happen to post that they think CC took a couple directed cheap shots this past season.


I think those people are very few, and they’re not wrong. By comparison it sure seems like way more people subscribe to a narrative that those couple shots = basically the whole league hates her.
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Post#32 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:37 pm

KembaWalker wrote:
theforumblue wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
CC already said what she needed to say. Some people are just upset that she has rejected their garbage political agenda, so they have no choice now but to make up false narratives.


you should know all about making up false narratives.


Bros got an entire fanfiction written up in his head about a persons core belief system if they happen to post that they think CC took a couple directed cheap shots this past season.

I’m not sure what happens to cause someone to turn to amateur WNBA thought policing but I’m glad it didn’t happen to me


She won't ever see this lil buddy, but I admire your consistency.
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Post#33 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:40 pm

theforumblue wrote:
KembaWalker wrote:
theforumblue wrote:
you should know all about making up false narratives.


Bros got an entire fanfiction written up in his head about a persons core belief system if they happen to post that they think CC took a couple directed cheap shots this past season.

I’m not sure what happens to cause someone to turn to amateur WNBA thought policing but I’m glad it didn’t happen to me


it's projection at this point. dude out here just accusing people of doing what he does the most: white knighting.


Both of you trolls constantly make up narratives and falsehoods about the other 143 players in the league hating Caitlin Clark and you're calling someone else a white knight?

Someone breathes on CC and you dudes start crying :lol: she's not reading any of this fellas and she has a man. Do something else.
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Post#34 » by TheWitcher » Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:43 pm

MDB you should feel really special, some posters are more obsessed with you than the actual sport they follow.
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Post#35 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:47 pm

TheWitcher wrote:MDB you should feel really special, some posters are more obsessed with you than the actual sport they follow.


I wish they actually spent as much energy and time watching the actual games and supporting the league as they do trolling this board, we can use all the help we can get.
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Post#36 » by G R E Y » Wed Oct 23, 2024 11:13 pm

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Post#37 » by hermes » Wed Oct 23, 2024 11:48 pm

so we're in a waiting period on this? they have a year to negotiate a new agreement?
betting the only way this gets done before next season starts is if the women's college season continues with amazing attendance/viewer numbers
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Post#38 » by TheWitcher » Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:06 am

hermes wrote:so we're in a waiting period on this? they have a year to negotiate a new agreement?
betting the only way this gets done before next season starts is if the women's college season continues with amazing attendance/viewer numbers


I’m thinking Unrivaled doing really good numbers would contribute more to get a deal done quickly.
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Post#39 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:20 am

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Post#40 » by Sealab2024 » Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:35 am

MrDollarBills wrote:The Bucks have applied for league membership by submitting a bid.


They're also considering proposals from Charlotte, Denver, Miami, Kansas City, Central Florida, Austin, and Cleveland is expected to submit a proposal soon.

Weird how many people want into a league that's supposedly dead in the water. Don't ya think?
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