Tank World Order V (Rise of the Phoenix)

LoveMyRaps · Post #521 » by **LoveMyRaps** » Thu Oct 31, 2024 4:18 pm

Out of the next 12 games - I see us winning 3 games max and that's me being generous. Pistons, Clippers, and one flukey win versus a good team.

We'll most likely lose 10 of the next 12, which would put us at 3-16.

TorontoBarneys · Post #522 » by **TorontoBarneys** » Thu Oct 31, 2024 4:24 pm

We tanking for our future #1 option but RJ is just like "Ayo I'm already here."

Scase · Post #523 » by **Scase** » Thu Oct 31, 2024 5:29 pm

TorontoBarneys wrote:We tanking for our future #1 option but RJ is just like "Ayo I'm already here."

We running with RJ as our #1 option, but the team record is just like "Ayo, we're 9th place and capped at the 1st round" :lol:

AbC? · Post #524 » by **AbC?** » Thu Oct 31, 2024 8:31 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:Out of the next 12 games - I see us winning 3 games max and that's me being generous. Pistons, Clippers, and one flukey win versus a good team.

We'll most likely lose 10 of the next 12, which would put us at 3-16.

I would be annoyed by anything better than 3-22. This is a golden opportunity with the injuries and tough schedule to really bank losses.

YogurtProducer · Post #525 » by **YogurtProducer** » Thu Oct 31, 2024 8:43 pm

AbC? wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:Out of the next 12 games - I see us winning 3 games max and that's me being generous. Pistons, Clippers, and one flukey win versus a good team.

We'll most likely lose 10 of the next 12, which would put us at 3-16.

I would be annoyed by anything better than 3-22. This is a golden opportunity with the injuries and tough schedule to really bank losses.

Jesus.

You guys are setting yourself up for disappointment if 3 wins from 25 is "annoying" because it is to high :lol:

YogurtProducer · Post #526 » by **YogurtProducer** » Thu Oct 31, 2024 8:43 pm

Scase wrote:
TorontoBarneys wrote:We tanking for our future #1 option but RJ is just like "Ayo I'm already here."

We running with RJ as our #1 option, but the team record is just like "Ayo, we're 9th place and capped at the 1st round"

If RJ manages to maintain a 25ppg pace on decent efficiency, that completely changes the ceiling of the team.

dohboy_24 · Post #527 » by **dohboy_24** » Thu Oct 31, 2024 8:49 pm

TorontoBarneys wrote:We tanking for our future #1 option but RJ is just like "Ayo I'm already here."

LOL... RJ isn't the #1 option on our team, nor would be the #1 option on most teams in the NBA.

Of the 30 teams in the league, he would probably only be able to replace the current #1 option on the Nets, Bulls, Blazers, or Wizards.

ATL - Trae Young
BOS - Jayson Tatum
BKN - Cam Thomas
CHA - LaMelo Ball or Brandon Miller
CHI - Zach LaVine or Coby White
CLE - Donovan Mitchell
DAL - Luka Doncic
DEN - Nikola Jokic
DET - Cade Cunningham
GSW - Steph Curry
HOU - Jalen Green or Alperen Sengun
IND - Tyrese Haliburton
LAC - James Harden or Kawhi Leonard
LAL - LeBron James or Anthony Davis
MEM - Ja Morant
MIA - Jimmy Butler
MIL - Giannis Antetokounmpo
MIN - Anthony Edwards
NOP - Zion Williamson
NYK - Jalen Brunson or Karl Anthony Towns
OKC - Shai Gilgeous-Alexander or Chet Holmgren
ORL - Paolo Banchero
PHI - Paul George
PHO - Kevin Durant or Devin Booker
PDX - Anfernee Simons or Shaedon Sharpe or Scoot Henderson
SAC - Domantas Sabonis or De'Aaron Fox
SAS - Victor Wembanyama
UTA - Lauri Markkanen
WAS - Bilal Coulibaly or Alexandre Sarr

Mark_83 · Post #528 » by **Mark_83** » Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:07 pm

Tied for 2nd worst record in the NBA so far.

metafisical · Post #529 » by **metafisical** » Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:43 pm

Mark_83 wrote:Tied for 2nd worst record in the NBA so far.

Not good enough. Just like my tiger parents used to say, "why aren't you #1?!?!". This team needs to try harder in sucking, because they are inevitably going to win some games when everyone is healthy again. The hope is that we've dug a hole so deep that we cannot get a better record than 5th worst.

I wish we didn't win that Philly game. What a disgrace.

Clutch0z24 · Post #530 » by **Clutch0z24** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 3:00 pm

Scase wrote:
TorontoBarneys wrote:We tanking for our future #1 option but RJ is just like "Ayo I'm already here."

We running with RJ as our #1 option, but the team record is just like "Ayo, we're 9th place and capped at the 1st round"

If RJ Barrett is your solution to be the number 1 option you will be back to rebuilding mode with nothing to show for it....Clearly there are no true number 1 options on the team that would be good enough to win you a round in the playoffs...

Barrett is a good 3rd-4th option on a championship team which imo we have a good 2nd in Barnes and a 3rd in Barrett and a 4th in Quickley....We just need a true number 1 guy.

Rapsfan07 · Post #531 » by **Rapsfan07** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 3:20 pm

We really need to be taking advantage of these injuries and tanking the hell out of these games.

This upcoming draft class is amazing.

Basketball_Jones · Post #532 » by **Basketball_Jones** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 3:27 pm

This season sucks already with all these injuries. It’s a fine line though as we’d probably win a game or two more with a full lineup by now. If injuries keep up there’s a strong chance we land a top five pick. I had us in that 7-10 range possibly so we are on pace to exceed that with Scottie missing a large chunk of games it looks like.

canz55 · Post #533 » by **canz55** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 3:36 pm

Clutch0z24 wrote:
Scase wrote:
TorontoBarneys wrote:We tanking for our future #1 option but RJ is just like "Ayo I'm already here."

We running with RJ as our #1 option, but the team record is just like "Ayo, we're 9th place and capped at the 1st round"

If RJ Barrett is your solution to be the number 1 option you will be back to rebuilding mode with nothing to show for it....Clearly there are no true number 1 options on the team that would be good enough to win you a round in the playoffs...

Barrett is a good 3rd-4th option on a championship team which imo we have a good 2nd in Barnes and a 3rd in Barrett and a 4th in Quickley....We just need a true number 1 guy.

Barnes is a number 1. Just not in the way you expect. Similar to Jokic situation in 2017/2018.

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MessiahUjiri · Post #534 » by **MessiahUjiri** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 3:51 pm

Scase wrote:
TorontoBarneys wrote:We tanking for our future #1 option but RJ is just like "Ayo I'm already here."

We running with RJ as our #1 option, but the team record is just like "Ayo, we're 9th place and capped at the 1st round"

RJ is like AYO I’m already here

tWo is like STFU AYO DOSUNMO

Scase · Post #535 » by **Scase** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 3:52 pm

Clutch0z24 wrote:
Scase wrote:
TorontoBarneys wrote:We tanking for our future #1 option but RJ is just like "Ayo I'm already here."

We running with RJ as our #1 option, but the team record is just like "Ayo, we're 9th place and capped at the 1st round"

If RJ Barrett is your solution to be the number 1 option you will be back to rebuilding mode with nothing to show for it....Clearly there are no true number 1 options on the team that would be good enough to win you a round in the playoffs...

Barrett is a good 3rd-4th option on a championship team which imo we have a good 2nd in Barnes and a 3rd in Barrett and a 4th in Quickley....We just need a true number 1 guy.

I think we can get away with another #2 guy, so long as that guy is focused entirely on scoring. Also I fully expect GD to become that 3rd option in the very near future. I think we inevitably end up moving one of IQ/RJ at some point and replace their spot with a high end 3+D player. When that happens, is up for debate, not one of the 3 will end up being a plus defender, and in all likelihood 2 or 3 of them cap out as neutral at best, and no team ever won with only offence.

But that's more of a 2-3 years from now problem.

AbC? · Post #536 » by **AbC?** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 4:18 pm

We don’t need a guy to pair up with Scottie so much as we need someone who is just flat out much, much better than him.

Pointgod · Post #537 » by **Pointgod** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 4:39 pm

Rapsfan07 wrote:We really need to be taking advantage of these injuries and tanking the hell out of these games.

This upcoming draft class is amazing.

We must do everything we can to secure a top 5 pick. Not only is the talent high they fit pretty well with the team.

TDots97 · Post #538 » by **TDots97** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 4:45 pm

TorontoBarneys wrote:We tanking for our future #1 option but RJ is just like "Ayo I'm already here."

There is no one that projects as a number 1 option in this draft at least number 1 option on a championship team, you might have great #2 options though

MiamiSPX · Post #539 » by **MiamiSPX** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 6:07 pm

metafisical wrote:
Mark_83 wrote:Tied for 2nd worst record in the NBA so far.

Not good enough. Just like my tiger parents used to say, "why aren't you #1?!?!". This team needs to try harder in sucking, because they are inevitably going to win some games when everyone is healthy again. The hope is that we've dug a hole so deep that we cannot get a better record than 5th worst.

I wish we didn't win that Philly game. What a disgrace.

Look at our schedule. It will be us and Utah comfortably at the bottom of the standings by the end of this month.

Dexjackson · Post #540 » by **Dexjackson** » Fri Nov 1, 2024 7:27 pm

Scase wrote:
Clutch0z24 wrote:
Scase wrote:We running with RJ as our #1 option, but the team record is just like "Ayo, we're 9th place and capped at the 1st round"

If RJ Barrett is your solution to be the number 1 option you will be back to rebuilding mode with nothing to show for it....Clearly there are no true number 1 options on the team that would be good enough to win you a round in the playoffs...

Barrett is a good 3rd-4th option on a championship team which imo we have a good 2nd in Barnes and a 3rd in Barrett and a 4th in Quickley....We just need a true number 1 guy.

I think we can get away with another #2 guy, so long as that guy is focused entirely on scoring. Also I fully expect GD to become that 3rd option in the very near future. I think we inevitably end up moving one of IQ/RJ at some point and replace their spot with a high end 3+D player. When that happens, is up for debate, not one of the 3 will end up being a plus defender, and in all likelihood 2 or 3 of them cap out as neutral at best, and no team ever won with only offence.

But that's more of a 2-3 years from now problem.

I agree that I see them moving off one of those two as well. We can't have IQ, RJ, and GD and expect to be a good defensive team. Two of them playing major minutes will already be hard enough to compensate for defensively. We need a Hebert Jones, OG-lite, player I think. A big wing who can guard as close to 1-5 as possible.