2024-25 NBA Season Discussion

eminence · Post #441 » by **eminence** » Tue Nov 5, 2024 12:17 am

Kerr is so adverse to putting decent shooting around Steph in lineups.

What the heck is this GPII/Wiggins/Dray/TJD starting group.

GSP · Post #442 » by **GSP** » Tue Nov 5, 2024 12:23 am

eminence wrote:Kerr is so adverse to putting decent shooting around Steph in lineups.

What the heck is this GPII/Wiggins/Dray/TJD starting group.

Its the Wizards lmaooo these are the types of games and teams coaches **** around with lineups for Gp2 isnt gonna start for serious games. You should see Mazzullas random rotations when we play trash teams

LukaTheGOAT · Post #443 » by **LukaTheGOAT** » Tue Nov 5, 2024 4:14 am

It's early but Jordan Poole is playing an excellent game this season.

He leads the league with 2.8 SPG, and is averaging 1.2 BPG. His 4.0 stocks/game is 2nd in the NBA behind Chet Holmgren.

Glad he's looking to be getting back on the trajectory he was on after the 2022 season.

And then on the other end of the spectrum, the Warrior's have a punchers chance of being competitive this season with Dray playing like this. He's shooting over 40% from 3 since the beginning of last year.

IlikeSHAIguys · Post #444 » by **IlikeSHAIguys** » Tue Nov 5, 2024 5:08 am

I freaking love Chet

Lou Fan · Post #445 » by **Lou Fan** » Tue Nov 5, 2024 6:36 am

Wemby 9 blocks tonight. Quadruple double at some point in his career would be awesome.

IlikeSHAIguys · Post #446 » by **IlikeSHAIguys** » Thu Nov 7, 2024 2:04 am

You know I might be a little drunk but I think we're going 82-0

parsnips33 · Post #447 » by **parsnips33** » Thu Nov 7, 2024 5:10 pm

Jrue/Derrick White is such a nasty backcourt I'm still not over it

Pure winning basketball

Peregrine01 · Post #448 » by **Peregrine01** » Thu Nov 7, 2024 6:12 pm

I'm going to jump the gun here and say that the Warriors look like title contenders again. Always thought that Hield would be perfect on this team and so far he looks a lot better than Klay ever did during their 2022 run. Steph doesn't look like he's lost a beat and Draymond somehow got his shot back.

Post #449 » by **tsherkin** » Thu Nov 7, 2024 6:21 pm

Peregrine01 wrote:I'm going to jump the gun here and say that the Warriors look like title contenders again. Always thought that Hield would be perfect on this team and so far he looks a lot better than Klay ever did during their 2022 run. Steph doesn't look like he's lost a beat and Draymond somehow got his shot back.

Probably best to wait until things settle. They won't be a nearly -9 defense all season and they probably won't be a +7 offense all year either. Hield definitely isn't going to continue shooting over 50% from 3 over the whole year.

It's very, very early days yet.

ShotCreator · Post #450 » by **ShotCreator** » Thu Nov 7, 2024 6:53 pm

Peregrine01 wrote:I'm going to jump the gun here and say that the Warriors look like title contenders again. Always thought that Hield would be perfect on this team and so far he looks a lot better than Klay ever did during their 2022 run. Steph doesn't look like he's lost a beat and Draymond somehow got his shot back.

Because Draymond isn't on an Olympic team like he used to be. So he can just shoot with confidence instead of feeling out of place because there's 3 other guys who should shoot more than him, and there's a psychological trap in feeling like he should never shoot.

Omri Casspi, a career good shooter refused to shoot on the 17 Warriors and got cut for it. And he fit in real well everywhere else on the floor with them. Shot 60% from the field.

Now, Draymond knows they actually need him. So now he's aggressive about it. He hit 6 3's in a finals game 7. This guy can shoot when he feel he has to.

A huge thing to see is GP2 is fully right. This guy was the best role player of the past 20 years dating back to old David Robinson IMO.

And Looney seems healthy again too. Hield is not the reason for this dominance. He helps obviously, but defensively GP2, Podziemski and Looney are on fire.

parsnips33 · Post #451 » by **parsnips33** » Thu Nov 7, 2024 7:00 pm

Everybody please slow down on the Warriors, it's a lot more fun when people doubt them

Post #452 » by **tsherkin** » Thu Nov 7, 2024 7:13 pm

parsnips33 wrote:Everybody please slow down on the Warriors, it's a lot more fun when people doubt them

They're gonna lose 3 in a row at some point, and people will lose their minds in the other direction in overreaction, don't worry.

TheGOATRises007 · Post #453 » by **TheGOATRises007** » Thu Nov 7, 2024 10:01 pm

Peregrine01 wrote:I'm going to jump the gun here and say that the Warriors look like title contenders again. Always thought that Hield would be perfect on this team and so far he looks a lot better than Klay ever did during their 2022 run. Steph doesn't look like he's lost a beat and Draymond somehow got his shot back.

Still too soon to say.

They got off to a good start last season too.

MartinToVaught · Post #454 » by **MartinToVaught** » Fri Nov 8, 2024 2:27 am

Scoots1994 wrote:Can anyone explain why teams keep hiring Doc? He's good with media but he's never been a very good coach.

NBA teams love taking the easy way out and recycling the same names over and over again even when they're proven failures. Doc is also a slick talker who can convince teams to hire him in spite of his resume and then keep saving his job for years with a constant stream of excuses.

Scoots1994 · Post #455 » by **Scoots1994** » Fri Nov 8, 2024 5:56 am

MartinToVaught wrote:
Scoots1994 wrote:Can anyone explain why teams keep hiring Doc? He's good with media but he's never been a very good coach.

NBA teams love taking the easy way out and recycling the same names over and over again even when they're proven failures. Doc is also a slick talker who can convince teams to hire him in spite of his resume and then keep saving his job for years with a constant stream of excuses.

So ... they are stupid.

The-Power · Post #456 » by **The-Power** » Fri Nov 8, 2024 12:44 pm

Peregrine01 wrote:Steph doesn't look like he's lost a beat

Compared to last year it's not dramatic but Curry has been on a steady decline when it comes to his ability to create and convert shots at and around the rim. He is still supremely skilled and a tough cover for anyone plus he's legitimately strong now but in terms of explosiveness, speed and body flexibility the continuous decline is noticeable. He relies more than ever on smarts and the ability to create and convert jump shots.

AEnigma · Post #457 » by **AEnigma** » Fri Nov 8, 2024 1:32 pm

I do not know, are we sure Curry is better than Jalen Brunson? :lol:

ShaqAttac · Post #458 » by **ShaqAttac** » Fri Nov 8, 2024 3:27 pm

jj on fraud watch if we lose tbh

Post #459 » by **tsherkin** » Fri Nov 8, 2024 7:50 pm

The-Power wrote:
Peregrine01 wrote:Steph doesn't look like he's lost a beat

Compared to last year it's not dramatic but Curry has been on a steady decline when it comes to his ability to create and convert shots at and around the rim.

FWIW, he shot the highest percentage from 0-3 feet of his entire career in 2023. Then he shot 69.2% last season, which was the 4th-highest of his career. Where he had declined in those two seasons was actually in the generation of shots there, not at all in his ability to convert when he got there. He also saw his lowest assisted percentage on 2PA since 2016, barring his 5-game season.

This year, he's shooting 46.2% from 0-3 feet, and on 17.8% of his total volume. So that works out to him being approximately 5/13.

This is not a sample worth commenting on at this time, particularly given how he's looked over the past half-decade.

The-Power · Post #460 » by **The-Power** » Fri Nov 8, 2024 10:56 pm

tsherkin wrote:FWIW, he shot the highest percentage from 0-3 feet of his entire career in 2023. Then he shot 69.2% last season, which was the 4th-highest of his career. Where he had declined in those two seasons was actually in the generation of shots there, not at all in his ability to convert when he got there. He also saw his lowest assisted percentage on 2PA since 2016, barring his 5-game season.

I would be careful with viewing higher efficiency as an indicator of greater ability. Curry shooting considerably fewer shots around the rim has most definitely something to do with his declining ability to get there at will, but it most likely also reflects a declining ability to finish in traffic. To put it simply: if I can't finish as well as I used to, I'm likely to pick my spots more carefully. It's similar to shooters: you have some high-efficiency but low-volume 3pt shooters every year. Good efficiency at low volume can be indicative of limited ability (or else volume would be higher) but smart shot selection.