Game 8: Miami at Denver Nov 8th 9 PM EST

[MettaWorldPanda]

It would be nice to have a high iq pg who dribbles and passes with purpose and can occasionally beat his man off the dribble n finish

Spo loves the smell of his positionless basketball farts too much. I also blame the front office too

[MettaWorldPanda]

It would be nice to have a high iq pg who dribbles and passes with purpose and can occasionally beat his man off the dribble n finish

Rozier has been ruff bro. My goodness.

Id rather have Gabe.

Gabe was integral to our championship run. He was a Heat culture player but lost all that when he left.

[DayofMourning]

It would be nice to have a high iq pg who dribbles and passes with purpose and can occasionally beat his man off the dribble n finish

Rozier has been ruff bro. My goodness.

Id rather have Gabe.

Gabe was integral to our championship run. He was a Heat culture player but lost all that when he left.

I was fine with the Rozier acquisition but he has proven to be incredibly inefficient in keeping the rhythm going. The ball stops. Sloppy passes. Globetrotter dribbling. Ugh. Make it stop.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Idk if it was posted here already, but over on Reddit someone posted a video of Bam verbally assaulting a Denver fan. He needs a break, pressure is getting to him.

I mean what was being said for him to say what he said lol?

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Watching Jokic leave Bam wide open on defense knowing he's zero threat to win a game while putting up a effortless triple double pretty much reaffirmed everything I knew.

As bad as Jimmy has been this year the fact this man took frauds like Herro and Bam to 2 NBA finals is a staggering achievement, as good as Heroo has been this year (amazing) his impact on winning is near zero and same as Bam when he actually has to do something other than catching open dunks while all the attention is off him and on prime Jimmy/Dragic going off.

Tonight was a hard Fraud Check for Herro and Bam. This is not a seriously team currently how they didn't trade Jimmy to Houston was a horrific mistake.

We don’t make the finals without Bam either time, you all are piling up on the dude for having a rough stretch but are quiet as hell when he plays well, you are talking straight fuxking nonsense as usual. You were also cheering for the Nuggets when we played them in the finals, idk why you’re even here. If it’s for Jovic we’ll be packing both of you all up soon hopefully

[MettaWorldPanda]

Rozier has been ruff bro. My goodness.

Id rather have Gabe.

Gabe was integral to our championship run. He was a Heat culture player but lost all that when he left.

I was fine with the Rozier acquisition but he has proven to be incredibly inefficient in keeping the rhythm going. The ball stops. Sloppy passes. Globetrotter dribbling. Ugh. Make it stop.

It was the only worthy band aid available that also saved 15 million in tax. It was worth a shot but sometimes it doesn’t always work out.

[HeatFan_NC]

It's time to start auctioning off pieces and do a soft rebuild. Keep Bam, JJJ, Larson, Ware and Herro.

PHX needs a PG so I would try to ship Rozier off to them.
Trade Jimmy to GS for Kuminga, Wiggins, and a 1st rd pick

[MettaWorldPanda]

It's time to start auctioning off pieces and do a soft rebuild. Keep Bam, JJJ, Larson, Ware and Herro.

PHX needs a PG so I would try to ship Rozier off to them.
Trade Jimmy to GS for Kuminga, Wiggins, and a 1st rd pick

Only a team that’s tanking is taking on Rozier. We paid a first for him which is top 20 protected to save 15 million in tax and see if the band aid at PG would work. He said all the right things but he’s a bonehead.

[DayofMourning]

It's time to start auctioning off pieces and do a soft rebuild. Keep Bam, JJJ, Larson, Ware and Herro.

PHX needs a PG so I would try to ship Rozier off to them.
Trade Jimmy to GS for Kuminga, Wiggins, and a 1st rd pick

Trade Butler to Chicago for Lavine and their pick.

Trade Bam (duh duh duh!) on draft night for the best picks/players.

Restocked shelves. Time to marinate and hope for the best.

[AirP.]

It's time to start auctioning off pieces and do a soft rebuild. Keep Bam, JJJ, Larson, Ware and Herro.

PHX needs a PG so I would try to ship Rozier off to them.
Trade Jimmy to GS for Kuminga, Wiggins, and a 1st rd pick

Trade Butler to Chicago for Lavine and their pick.

Trade Bam (duh duh duh!) on draft night for the best picks/players.

Restocked shelves. Time to marinate and hope for the best.

In 10 years, Miami was gifted Butler (by Wade selling him on Spoelstra) and did make a great draft selection in Bam, outside of that there hasn't been anything that Miami's FO has really done to make me feel confident they can build up this franchise which is pretty incredible since the coaching staff has shown they can make undrafted players into rotation guys, you'd think maybe, just maybe we only use our assets to get high level players instead of guys like Rozier, trading a recent 1st round pick to do a sign and trade for a guy past his peak in Lowry.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

It's time to start auctioning off pieces and do a soft rebuild. Keep Bam, JJJ, Larson, Ware and Herro.

PHX needs a PG so I would try to ship Rozier off to them.
Trade Jimmy to GS for Kuminga, Wiggins, and a 1st rd pick

Trade Butler to Chicago for Lavine and their pick.

Trade Bam (duh duh duh!) on draft night for the best picks/players.

Restocked shelves. Time to marinate and hope for the best.

In 10 years, Miami was gifted Butler (by Wade selling him on Spoelstra) and did make a great draft selection in Bam, outside of that there hasn't been anything that Miami's FO has really done to make me feel confident they can build up this franchise which is pretty incredible since the coaching staff has shown they can make undrafted players into rotation guys, you'd think maybe, just maybe we only use our assets to get high level players instead of guys like Rozier, trading a recent 1st round pick to do a sign and trade for a guy past his peak in Lowry.

Heat fans are in for a rude awakening when those 2 are gone whether it’s trade or they decide to leave on their own

[Umbooki]

Jimmy is my favorite Heat player since Wade, but I’ve come around to the idea of trading him to a contender. Unless Jaime craps out his guts and comes back as Prime LeBron, our window is closed.

2020 was really our year.

[AirP.]

Jimmy is my favorite Heat player since Wade, but I’ve come around to the idea of trading him to a contender. Unless Jaime craps out his guts and comes back as Prime LeBron, our window is closed.

2020 was really our year.

Well, the FO could have built the roster to compete after that then basically drafting young players that can't help.

Getting back to 2020, Dragic who was a key player for that run was only on that roster because the FO's initial trade to make room for Butler fell through so they ended up having to change the trade to Whiteside and sending a 1st to LAC for them to take on a contract.

To make it hurt a little bit more with the FO on 2020, OKC was more than willing to send CP3 (that they acquired from Houston with 2 1st) was ready to send him to Miami but the FO didn't want that 3rd year of the contract so they might have a chance to chase Giannis.

The FO isn't bad, their incredibly good about finding ways to make a trade although going up to the tax/apron line giving them nearly zero wiggle room hurts, the issue is the philosophy of building a championship roster has changed which I get for most of the NBA, you need depth but Miami's strength is developing role-players and should have gone all in with that by chasing higher level players with their draft assets.

Miami needs to find a way to acquire a long term #1 no matter what it takes. Dallas traded 2 first round picks to get Doncic's draft rights, maybe Miami needs to take that type of leap of faith but that's risky!

[Beenie]

Nah Bro Terry has that "dawg" in him and isa Wade stan

JJJ needs to start at point when healthy he's the only one with a high IIQ who can dribble on this team to do it or Larson.

We are down so bad when we are forced to talk about wings playing point and playing small wings at the 4. This team is so discombobulated. The small ball positionless brand from Spo has been a complete brainwashing.

To be fair JJJ at PG would be "bigger ball" I don't think the team can survive Rozier at the PG, I would even consider starting Duncan @ SF as well he brings floor spacing and off ball movement but in saying that none of this is ideal or wanted.

I don’t think he could manage getting challenged by every teams best poa defenders poke checking him as he’s crossing half court.

[Flash4thewin]

It's time to start auctioning off pieces and do a soft rebuild. Keep Bam, JJJ, Larson, Ware and Herro.

PHX needs a PG so I would try to ship Rozier off to them.
Trade Jimmy to GS for Kuminga, Wiggins, and a 1st rd pick

Trade Butler to Chicago for Lavine and their pick.

Trade Bam (duh duh duh!) on draft night for the best picks/players.

Restocked shelves. Time to marinate and hope for the best.

Lavine is playing great thus far this season. No way they make that trade unless we are the ones paying the first round pick because of Jimmy bad start.

At least Herro is improving his trade value.

[twix2500]

It's time to start auctioning off pieces and do a soft rebuild. Keep Bam, JJJ, Larson, Ware and Herro.

PHX needs a PG so I would try to ship Rozier off to them.
Trade Jimmy to GS for Kuminga, Wiggins, and a 1st rd pick

Trade Butler to Chicago for Lavine and their pick.

Trade Bam (duh duh duh!) on draft night for the best picks/players.

Restocked shelves. Time to marinate and hope for the best.

In 10 years, Miami was gifted Butler (by Wade selling him on Spoelstra) and did make a great draft selection in Bam, outside of that there hasn't been anything that Miami's FO has really done to make me feel confident they can build up this franchise which is pretty incredible since the coaching staff has shown they can make undrafted players into rotation guys, you'd think maybe, just maybe we only use our assets to get high level players instead of guys like Rozier, trading a recent 1st round pick to do a sign and trade for a guy past his peak in Lowry.

What hurt the Heat was Oladipo health. That was the move the Heat knew they could get done. If he was healthy, he was the perfect costar for Butler. The biggest concern was that leg. The Heat didnt want to give as much as they did for Lowry, but felt force too when Oladipo leg gave out and Butler wanted Lowry. It was Dipo or Lowry at the trade deadline. Those trade peice for Lowry would of went to someone else if Oladipo was healthy.

Personally I felt not getting the deal done for Chris Paul was the failure.

[AirP.]

Trade Butler to Chicago for Lavine and their pick.

Trade Bam (duh duh duh!) on draft night for the best picks/players.

Restocked shelves. Time to marinate and hope for the best.

In 10 years, Miami was gifted Butler (by Wade selling him on Spoelstra) and did make a great draft selection in Bam, outside of that there hasn't been anything that Miami's FO has really done to make me feel confident they can build up this franchise which is pretty incredible since the coaching staff has shown they can make undrafted players into rotation guys, you'd think maybe, just maybe we only use our assets to get high level players instead of guys like Rozier, trading a recent 1st round pick to do a sign and trade for a guy past his peak in Lowry.

What hurt the Heat was Oladipo health. That was the move the Heat knew they could get done. If he was healthy, he was the perfect costar for Butler. The biggest concern was that leg. The Heat didnt want to give as much as they did for Lowry, but felt force too when Oladipo leg gave out and Butler wanted Lowry. It was Dipo or Lowry at the trade deadline. Those trade peice for Lowry would of went to someone else if Oladipo was healthy.

Personally I felt not getting the deal done for Chris Paul was the failure.

I too think Oladipo was nearly a perfect fit had he been healthy. On CP3, I was posting his box scores without Harden in Houston which showed how well he could play if he had didn't have to play with such a high usage Harden, basically when playing with Harden the team's play basically negated CP3's strengths. What an incredible summer of 2019 could have been had Miami teamed up CP3, Butler and Bam together with a rookie like Herro for some scoring punch off the bench and eventually an off guard with the starters!

[twix2500]

In 10 years, Miami was gifted Butler (by Wade selling him on Spoelstra) and did make a great draft selection in Bam, outside of that there hasn't been anything that Miami's FO has really done to make me feel confident they can build up this franchise which is pretty incredible since the coaching staff has shown they can make undrafted players into rotation guys, you'd think maybe, just maybe we only use our assets to get high level players instead of guys like Rozier, trading a recent 1st round pick to do a sign and trade for a guy past his peak in Lowry.

What hurt the Heat was Oladipo health. That was the move the Heat knew they could get done. If he was healthy, he was the perfect costar for Butler. The biggest concern was that leg. The Heat didnt want to give as much as they did for Lowry, but felt force too when Oladipo leg gave out and Butler wanted Lowry. It was Dipo or Lowry at the trade deadline. Those trade peice for Lowry would of went to someone else if Oladipo was healthy.

Personally I felt not getting the deal done for Chris Paul was the failure.

I too think Oladipo was nearly a perfect fit had he been healthy. On CP3, I was posting his box scores without Harden in Houston which showed how well he could play if he had didn't have to play with such a high usage Harden, basically when playing with Harden the team's play basically negated CP3's strengths. What an incredible summer of 2019 could have been had Miami teamed up CP3, Butler and Bam together with a rookie like Herro for some scoring punch off the bench and eventually an off guard with the starters!

At that time, this room biggest concern was his age and the history of him getting hurt in the playoffs. Remember the Heat wanted Danillo Gallinari. The Iggy trade was suppose to be Iggy and Gallinari. The wanted those two even when they were going after CP and Westbrook. One has to wonder does a healthy Gallinari give the Heat enough size to beat Lakers?