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Post#601 » by AirP. » Sat Nov 9, 2024 7:46 pm

Johnny Fontane wrote:In a nutshell though we’ve become a poverty franchise and are basically stuck in an endless loop. Good luck to The Arisons putting butts in seats with the team playing like this

Miami's also paying the tax this year with the repeater tax looming if they're in the tax in either of the next 2 seasons. The roster is probably just going to get worse the next 2 seasons.

Listening to a podcast recently, not only do non-tax teams not pay tax, they're getting possibly 16 to 18 million dollars check from the NBA for staying under the tax. Just looking at Miami's salary numbers, had Miami stayed under the tax this year (let Lowry's contract expire, kept their future 1st, maybe resigned Wright) they possibly have cost ownership nearly 60 million dollars this season. The FO is just throwing ownership's money out the window.
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Post#602 » by wade44 » Sat Nov 9, 2024 8:05 pm

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Johnny Fontane wrote:In a nutshell though we’ve become a poverty franchise and are basically stuck in an endless loop. Good luck to The Arisons putting butts in seats with the team playing like this

Miami's also paying the tax this year with the repeater tax looming if they're in the tax in either of the next 2 seasons. The roster is probably just going to get worse the next 2 seasons.

Listening to a podcast recently, not only do non-tax teams not pay tax, they're getting possibly 16 to 18 million dollars check from the NBA for staying under the tax. Just looking at Miami's salary numbers, had Miami stayed under the tax this year (let Lowry's contract expire, kept their future 1st, maybe resigned Wright) they possibly have cost ownership nearly 60 million dollars this season. The FO is just throwing ownership's money out the window.

Surely butler and the Heat are headed for a split. Jimmy’s been great but getting off his deal has almost become a necessity
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Post#603 » by twix2500 » Sat Nov 9, 2024 8:09 pm

Rozier is struggling to see the floor and run the play. Spo has to get these guys insync. Corners are open, multiple decisions could of been made to either get Bam in the corning or Jovic in the weak corner.

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Post#604 » by twix2500 » Sat Nov 9, 2024 8:20 pm

twix2500 wrote:Rozier is struggling to see the floor and run the play. Spo has to get these guys insync. Corners are open, multiple decisions could of been made to either get Bam in the corning or Jovic in the weak corner.



Rozier is playing like Herro when he plays point. Not seeing the defense and not swinging the ball the right direction. Too many times he making **** up.
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Post#605 » by twix2500 » Sat Nov 9, 2024 8:31 pm

This is the same **** Herro does every game when he runs point. He dribbles right into a trap, has to pick up the ball, now the play is all scrambled. And Rozier been doing this all season, passing up an easy open three. No reason for him not to pull the trigger on an open three. He and Herro have been butter from three this year.

Butler looks like his ankle was already having issues in this clip before the play he fell down and started limping.

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Post#606 » by twix2500 » Sat Nov 9, 2024 8:36 pm

This team gets very unsure of how to run the play at times. The hesitations and dribbling the wrong direction, or hesistant to shoot is what make these plays fail. When its crisp and the decision making is quick and percise the plays can work perfect to the talent.
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Post#607 » by twix2500 » Sat Nov 9, 2024 8:53 pm

The offense is completely different from the past. But this offense is from the Olympics.

This is why I am optimistic. This offense does have A LOT of different looks. All five starters each have opportunities to run point. This is not a simple scheme he is trying to run because of each gets a chance to play all the roles in the offense. So I am giving it time, for Spo to get these guys to master the scheme.
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Post#608 » by twix2500 » Sat Nov 9, 2024 8:58 pm

No reason for Terry to hesistate on a three point shot. He is averaging 41.1% from three. Only two bad games. Might be in the 50% range if he stop passing up open threes for a difficult one.

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DEN - 66.7%
PHX - 14.3%
SAC - 50.0%
WAS - 42.9%
NYK - 50.0%
DET - 41.7%
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Post#609 » by HeatFanLifer » Sat Nov 9, 2024 9:36 pm

Johnny Fontane wrote:
AirP. wrote:
Johnny Fontane wrote:In a nutshell though we’ve become a poverty franchise and are basically stuck in an endless loop. Good luck to The Arisons putting butts in seats with the team playing like this

Miami's also paying the tax this year with the repeater tax looming if they're in the tax in either of the next 2 seasons. The roster is probably just going to get worse the next 2 seasons.

Listening to a podcast recently, not only do non-tax teams not pay tax, they're getting possibly 16 to 18 million dollars check from the NBA for staying under the tax. Just looking at Miami's salary numbers, had Miami stayed under the tax this year (let Lowry's contract expire, kept their future 1st, maybe resigned Wright) they possibly have cost ownership nearly 60 million dollars this season. The FO is just throwing ownership's money out the window.

Surely butler and the Heat are headed for a split. Jimmy’s been great but getting off his deal has almost become a necessity


Time to rebuild. This team aint it.
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Post#610 » by wade44 » Sat Nov 9, 2024 9:41 pm

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Johnny Fontane wrote:
AirP. wrote:Miami's also paying the tax this year with the repeater tax looming if they're in the tax in either of the next 2 seasons. The roster is probably just going to get worse the next 2 seasons.

Listening to a podcast recently, not only do non-tax teams not pay tax, they're getting possibly 16 to 18 million dollars check from the NBA for staying under the tax. Just looking at Miami's salary numbers, had Miami stayed under the tax this year (let Lowry's contract expire, kept their future 1st, maybe resigned Wright) they possibly have cost ownership nearly 60 million dollars this season. The FO is just throwing ownership's money out the window.

Surely butler and the Heat are headed for a split. Jimmy’s been great but getting off his deal has almost become a necessity


Time to rebuild. This team aint it.


Wouldn’t be opposed to a full rebuild. By the time we get help for Bam (if ever) he will be close to out of his prime. If his asking price is Gobert-esque you take the deal right away
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Post#611 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Nov 9, 2024 9:41 pm

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You have to lean towards the talent. This is not a team with Tucker, Iggy, Crowder, Martin, Lowry, Vincent, Oladipo etc all defensive talent players. Spo has to see how far he can push the offense. Hopefully he can push it in a way that the offense helps the defense.


Our defense has always led to easy offense for us though at times, starting Highsmith should be a step in the right direction. It’s hard to score when you’re taking it out of the net after every defensive possession and the opposing team is already set up in their defense


This is not the same team


I mean it essentially is and that’s the biggest issue lol
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Post#612 » by AirP. » Sat Nov 9, 2024 9:44 pm

Johnny Fontane wrote:
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Johnny Fontane wrote:In a nutshell though we’ve become a poverty franchise and are basically stuck in an endless loop. Good luck to The Arisons putting butts in seats with the team playing like this

Miami's also paying the tax this year with the repeater tax looming if they're in the tax in either of the next 2 seasons. The roster is probably just going to get worse the next 2 seasons.

Listening to a podcast recently, not only do non-tax teams not pay tax, they're getting possibly 16 to 18 million dollars check from the NBA for staying under the tax. Just looking at Miami's salary numbers, had Miami stayed under the tax this year (let Lowry's contract expire, kept their future 1st, maybe resigned Wright) they possibly have cost ownership nearly 60 million dollars this season. The FO is just throwing ownership's money out the window.

Surely butler and the Heat are headed for a split. Jimmy’s been great but getting off his deal has almost become a necessity

Probably, but to do that Miami can't really take on future salary and with that, a lesser roster for the next 2 years at least. Remember last year in the playoffs, that's the foreseeable future for Miami until they can figure out how to get another high-level talent. Becoming bad doesn't promise you good players in the future and although you'll have hope that good players are coming, you're going to go through a lot of pain until then.

It sucks to go through rebuilding, years of irrelevant basketball and no real enjoyment. Before I started following Miami in 2019 I loved the idea of Miami not rebuilding but figuring out a way to retool but since then the FO was more than happy just drafting mid to late 1st rounders vs packaging them together for a much better chance at a higher tier player if not proven higher tier player.
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Post#613 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Nov 9, 2024 9:44 pm

twix2500 wrote:This is the same **** Herro does every game when he runs point. He dribbles right into a trap, has to pick up the ball, now the play is all scrambled. And Rozier been doing this all season, passing up an easy open three. No reason for him not to pull the trigger on an open three. He and Herro have been butter from three this year.

Butler looks like his ankle was already having issues in this clip before the play he fell down and started limping.



Exactly, Rozier needs to be moved to the bench where he can run the 2nd unit, play free, and compete for 6MOY. Perfect role for him on a “contender”. Problem is, we don’t really have anyone to slide in for him in the starting unit unless you want to slide Herro to PG but that just reopens the can of worms we’ve had with him in prior years. The lack of depth at PG and C have been a glaring issue for years and we just flat out refuse to do anything about it.
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Post#614 » by AirP. » Sat Nov 9, 2024 9:46 pm

twix2500 wrote:This is the same **** Herro does every game when he runs point. He dribbles right into a trap, has to pick up the ball, now the play is all scrambled. And Rozier been doing this all season, passing up an easy open three. No reason for him not to pull the trigger on an open three. He and Herro have been butter from three this year.

Butler looks like his ankle was already having issues in this clip before the play he fell down and started limping.


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Post#615 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Nov 9, 2024 9:56 pm

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twix2500 wrote:This is the same **** Herro does every game when he runs point. He dribbles right into a trap, has to pick up the ball, now the play is all scrambled. And Rozier been doing this all season, passing up an easy open three. No reason for him not to pull the trigger on an open three. He and Herro have been butter from three this year.

Butler looks like his ankle was already having issues in this clip before the play he fell down and started limping.


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Didnt someone do research to compare his ankle injuries prior to being with Li-Ning and after? Could’ve swore I saw something and the change was drastic, he’s got to stop wearing those garbage shoes
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Post#616 » by twix2500 » Sat Nov 9, 2024 9:57 pm

If Spo can get this team Ortg above 116 and DRtg below 112, the Heat should be top 4 in the East and top 8 in the league.
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Post#617 » by twix2500 » Sat Nov 9, 2024 10:01 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
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twix2500 wrote:This is the same **** Herro does every game when he runs point. He dribbles right into a trap, has to pick up the ball, now the play is all scrambled. And Rozier been doing this all season, passing up an easy open three. No reason for him not to pull the trigger on an open three. He and Herro have been butter from three this year.

Butler looks like his ankle was already having issues in this clip before the play he fell down and started limping.


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Didnt someone do research to compare his ankle injuries prior to being with Li-Ning and after? Could’ve swore I saw something and the change was drastic, he’s got to stop wearing those garbage shoes


Is he taking about all last season or this season?
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Post#618 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Nov 9, 2024 10:03 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
twix2500 wrote:This is the same **** Herro does every game when he runs point. He dribbles right into a trap, has to pick up the ball, now the play is all scrambled. And Rozier been doing this all season, passing up an easy open three. No reason for him not to pull the trigger on an open three. He and Herro have been butter from three this year.

Butler looks like his ankle was already having issues in this clip before the play he fell down and started limping.



Exactly, Rozier needs to be moved to the bench where he can run the 2nd unit, play free, and compete for 6MOY. Perfect role for him on a “contender”. Problem is, we don’t really have anyone to slide in for him in the starting unit unless you want to slide Herro to PG but that just reopens the can of worms we’ve had with him in prior years. The lack of depth at PG and C have been a glaring issue for years and we just flat out refuse to do anything about it.

I get it. Like Lou Williams. I don’t think it’s gonna happen though. Hopefully they are able to dump him some place. I mentioned Utah with his old poppa Ainge and his idol Wade. Pray for Sexton and Collins.
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Post#619 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Nov 9, 2024 10:07 pm

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Jaime starts in Jimmy’s spot tomorrow. Doesn’t matter who starts at the 4 between Jovic or Jagsmith. Both make up the worst 4 tandem in the league.
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Post#620 » by twix2500 » Sat Nov 9, 2024 10:12 pm

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twix2500 wrote:This is the same **** Herro does every game when he runs point. He dribbles right into a trap, has to pick up the ball, now the play is all scrambled. And Rozier been doing this all season, passing up an easy open three. No reason for him not to pull the trigger on an open three. He and Herro have been butter from three this year.

Butler looks like his ankle was already having issues in this clip before the play he fell down and started limping.



Exactly, Rozier needs to be moved to the bench where he can run the 2nd unit, play free, and compete for 6MOY. Perfect role for him on a “contender”. Problem is, we don’t really have anyone to slide in for him in the starting unit unless you want to slide Herro to PG but that just reopens the can of worms we’ve had with him in prior years. The lack of depth at PG and C have been a glaring issue for years and we just flat out refuse to do anything about it.

I get it. Like Lou Williams. I don’t think it’s gonna happen though. Hopefully they are able to dump him some place. I mentioned Utah with his old poppa Ainge and his idol Wade. Pray for Sexton and Collins.


No way Spo is trashing the scheme. Spo never changes scheme in the mist of a season.

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