Coach Pairs Draft - Play in #2 - Fadeaway_J* vs Larry_Russell

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Coach Pairs Draft - Play in #2 - Fadeaway_J* vs Larry_Russell 

Post#1 » by durantbird » Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:28 pm

Here is a quick list of what you need in your writeup.

1. Specific years for each player on your team
2. Rotations and minutes for each player
3. Reasoning as to why your team will win and/or why people should vote for you.

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Re: Coach Pairs Draft - Play in #2 - Fadeaway_J vs Larry_Russell 

Post#2 » by Larry_Russell » Tue Nov 12, 2024 12:17 am

PG: Steph Curry (2015-16) 20.2
30ppg, 5.4rpg, 6.7apg, 2.1spg, 45.5% on 11.2-3pta
MVP, NBA-1, AS

SG: Derrick White (2023-24) 11.5
15ppg, 4.2rpg, 5.2apg, 1spg, 1.2bpg, 39.5% on 6.8-3pta
DPOY-8, All Defense-2

SF: Jimmy Butler (2016-17) 16.5
24ppg, 6.2rpg, 5.5apg, 1.9spg, 0.5bpg, 36.7% on 3.3-3pta
NBA-3, All Defense 18th, AS

PF: Paul Millsap (2014-15) 12.7
16.7ppg, 7.8rpg, 3.1apg, 1.8spg, 1bpg, 36% on 3-3pta
AS, All NBA votes, All Defense votes

C: Joakim Noah (2013-14) 10
12.5ppg, 11.3rpg, 5.4apg, 1.2spg, 1.5bpg
DPOY, MVP-4, NBA-1, AS

PG/SG: Reggie Jackson (2020-21) 8.7
10.7ppg, 3rpg, 3apg, 0.6spg, 43% on 3-3pta

SF/PF: Andre Igualdala (2014-15) 6.4
7.8ppg, 3.3rpg, 3apg, 1.2spg, 35% on 2.8-3pta
6MOY-4, FMVP

C Sam Perkins (1999-00) 5.4
6.6ppg, 3.6rpg, 0.8apg, 0.5spg, 0.5bpg, 40% on 2.7-3pta


PG: Curry (38) / Jacsskon (10)
SG: White (38) / Iggy (10)
SF: Butler (38) / Iggy (10)
PF: Millsap (38) / Iggy (5) / Perkins (5)
C: Noah (38) / Perkins (10)

88/88

Defense
Curry on KCP
Butler on Lebron
White on Brown
Millsap on shard
Noah on Dwight

Thats defense. I have guys that play it.

Offense
Greatest shooter of all time samdwiched with guys that love to move the ball.

I dont see anyone here that can slow down prime Curry. White gives a great klay like duo. Butler gives some of everything. Millsap is a great glue guy who can do some of everything and Noah is my anchor.

I have a floor spacing bigman off the bench
I have a finals mvp off the bench in Iggy
And a guard that can attack the rim.

Solid team basketball that is overshadowed by not having guys considered 2nd tier in the drafts like chicago jimmy white and millsap and a non floorspacing bigman in Noah.

I dont expect I will win, but I am shooting for a non sweep.
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Re: Coach Pairs Draft - Play in #2 - Fadeaway_J vs Larry_Russell 

Post#3 » by Fadeaway_J » Tue Nov 12, 2024 12:17 am

Starters
C - Dwight Howard (2009-10)
Spoiler:
18.3 ppg, 13.2 rpg, 1.8 apg, 0.9 spg, 2.8 bpg, .612 FG%, .592 FT%, .630 TS%
- Led the NBA in rpg, bpg, FG%, DWS (7.1), DBPM (2.8)
- Defensive Player of the Year
- NBA All-Star
- All-NBA First Team
- All-Defensive First Team

PF - Rashard Lewis (2008-09)
Spoiler:
17.7 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 2.6 apg, 1.0 spg, 0.6 bpg, .439 FG%, .397 3P%, .836 FT%, 220 3P (2.8 pg), .580 TS%
- Led the NBA in 3P
- NBA All-Star

SF - Jaylen Brown (2023-24)
Spoiler:
23.0 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 3.6 apg, 1.2 spg, 0.5 bpg, .499 FG%, .354 3P%, .703 FT%, 145 3P (2.1 pg), .580 TS%
- NBA Champion
- NBA Finals MVP
- NBA All-Star

SG - Kentavious Caldwell-Pope (2019-20)
Spoiler:
9.3 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 1.8 apg, 0.8 spg, 0.2 bpg, .467 FG%, .385 3P%, .775 FT%, 92 3P (1.3 pg), .584 TS%
- NBA Champion

PG - LeBron James (2019-20)
Spoiler:
25.3 ppg, 7.8 rpg, 10.2 apg, 1.2 spg, 0.5 bpg, .493 FG%, .348 3P%, .693 FT%, 148 3P (2.2 pg), .577 TS%
- Led the NBA in apg, AST% (49.1)
- NBA Champion
- NBA Finals MVP
- NBA All-Star
- All-NBA First Team

Bench
C - Tyson Chandler (2005-06)
Spoiler:
5.3 ppg, 9.0 rpg, 1.0 apg, 0.5 spg, 1.3 bpg, .565 FG%, .503 FT%, .567 TS%

G - Donte DiVincenzo (2022-23)
Spoiler:
9.4 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 3.5 apg, 1.3 spg, 0.1 bpg, .435 FG%, .397 3P%, .817 FT%, 150 3P (2.1 pg), .593 TS%

G - George Hill (2013-14)
Spoiler:
10.3 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 3.5 apg, 1.0 spg, 0.3 bpg, .442 FG%, .365 3P%, .807 FT%, 95 3P (1.3 pg), .563 TS%

Rotations
C - Howard (38), Chandler (10)
PF - Lewis (38), James (10)
SF - Brown (38), DiVincenzo (10)
SG - KCP (34), DiVincenzo (14)
PG - James (30), Hill (18)

FGA Per Player
Spoiler:
LeBron James - 19.4
Rashard Lewis - 13.8
Dwight Howard - 10.2
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope - 7.3
Jaylen Brown - 17.9
George Hill - 8.1
Donte DiVincenzo - 7.5
Tyson Chandler - 3.6

Total: 87.8/88.0


This team is loosely modelled on the 2019-20 Lakers, with LeBron running point alongside an uberathletic superstar big, and solid supporting pieces around them. Lewis as a lethal stretch 4 provides an element those Lakers lacked, and Brown fits in nicely alternating with Dwight as the 2nd/3rd option. Defensively, we have great positional size with the 6-4 Hill/DiVincenzo being our smallest players, and a lineup of LeBron/KCP/Brown/Lewis gives good switchability 1 through 4. The Dwight-Chandler tandem ensures we have great rim protection and rebounding at the 5 for 48 minutes. Hill and DiVincenzo provide additional shooting off the bench.

Matchup
- We will go straight up defensively, except KCP is the primary Steph defender and LeBron starts on White. KCP has the right defensive tools as he's great at chasing around screens and contesting shooters. Similarly, Brown's forte is guarding one-on-one, so he should do a solid job on Butler.
- Our positional size gives Larry a problem here, as there isn't a good assignment for White here (presuming Steph guards KCP). LeBron, Brown, and Lewis are all too big and strong for him, and there certainly isn't much scope for switching with both him and Steph in the backcourt. Additionally, Noah is a great defensive quarterback but too skinny to guard a much stronger player like Dwight in the post (it's low-hanging fruit but I always point to what Nene did to him in the 2014 playoffs).
- Defensively, we will obviously look to stay attached to Steph and White, but our forwards will pack the paint to force guys like Butler, Millsap, and Iguodala to beat us with the outside shot.

Good luck Larry.
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Post#4 » by MadNESS » Tue Nov 12, 2024 2:19 am

Tough. I’m going to come back later tonight and vote.
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Re: Coach Pairs Draft - Play in #2 - Fadeaway_J vs Larry_Russell 

Post#5 » by wackbone » Tue Nov 12, 2024 2:44 am

This is a really poor matchup for Larry. Defensively, I can buy KCP on Curry much more than Curry on FMVP Brown. I also don't think there are enough super potent shooters to compliment Curry's biggest strengths, although I totally buy the passing/ball-movement argument on his team.

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Post#6 » by Larry_Russell » Tue Nov 12, 2024 2:55 am

wackbone wrote:This is a really poor matchup for Larry. Defensively, I can buy KCP on Curry much more than Curry on FMVP Brown. I also don't think there are enough super potent shooters to compliment Curry's biggest strengths, although I totally buy the passing/ball-movement argument on his team.

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All NBA defense White who led the league in blocking shots as a guard is guarding brown. Not Curry

Doesnt make sense that KCP who only played 25 mins a game is going to stop MVP Curry more than White can stop brown?
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Re: Coach Pairs Draft - Play in #2 - Fadeaway_J vs Larry_Russell 

Post#7 » by wackbone » Tue Nov 12, 2024 3:19 am

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wackbone wrote:This is a really poor matchup for Larry. Defensively, I can buy KCP on Curry much more than Curry on FMVP Brown. I also don't think there are enough super potent shooters to compliment Curry's biggest strengths, although I totally buy the passing/ball-movement argument on his team.

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All NBA defense White who led the league in blocking shots as a guard is guarding brown. Not Curry

Doesnt make sense that KCP who only played 25 mins a game is going to stop MVP Curry more than White can stop brown?

My bad, somehow got my wires crossed.

Meant I see KCP on Curry as a more feasible matchup than White on Brown given the physical differences, even with KCP/White both being high level defenders and with Curry being in one of the greatest offensive seasons ever. I love White as much as the next guy, but Brown was the FMVP for a reason.
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Re: Coach Pairs Draft - Play in #2 - Fadeaway_J vs Larry_Russell 

Post#8 » by durantbird » Tue Nov 12, 2024 4:46 pm

Prefer Fade. White is a great defender but he doesn't have the size to match up against Brown effectively. And I prefer Fade's leading four.

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Post#9 » by Dr Positivity » Tue Nov 12, 2024 5:38 pm

Bulls Butler is only a bit better than Brown so I see Fade having too much of a talent advantage here. Vote Fade.
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Re: Coach Pairs Draft - Play in #2 - Fadeaway_J vs Larry_Russell 

Post#10 » by Larry_Russell » Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:23 pm

surprise.

no lebron, no 3pt shooting in the front court is a loss everytime, almost.
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Post#11 » by durantbird » Tue Nov 12, 2024 7:43 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:surprise.

no lebron, no 3pt shooting in the front court is a loss everytime, almost.

I don't think lack of shooting was the problem here. Also Millsap is a good spacing big
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Post#12 » by durantbird » Tue Nov 12, 2024 7:44 pm

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Post#13 » by Snakebites » Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:41 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:surprise.

no lebron, no 3pt shooting in the front court is a loss everytime, almost.

This wasn’t Lebron without shooting though. His spacing is pretty decent here. Rashard Lewis is an elite floor spacer at the 4.

Not sure what you’re getting at here.
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Re: Coach Pairs Draft - Play in #2 - Fadeaway_J vs Larry_Russell 

Post#14 » by Larry_Russell » Wed Nov 13, 2024 1:45 am

Snakebites wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:surprise.

no lebron, no 3pt shooting in the front court is a loss everytime, almost.

This wasn’t Lebron without shooting though. His spacing is pretty decent here. Rashard Lewis is an elite floor spacer at the 4.

Not sure what you’re getting at here.



I was implying that Noah cant shoot and I didnt habe lebron.

And winning teams almost always have lebron or a great shooting front court.

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