Official Ochai Agbaji Thread - Welcome to Toronto, Ochai!

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

6'5" is small for the position they want him to play. If he can't defend at the SF position, that limits us. He can't provide that.

he has a 6’11 wingspan. Height doesn’t really mean anything.

Funny how we’re worried about Agbaji defense but not dick or RJ which is why he is guarding 3’s

He only has 6'10 wingspan, same as Walter. 6'10 is consider below average for starting SF. Average starter for SF wingspan is pretty much at least 7'
If they are to guard LeBron, Leonard, Anunoby, Tatum, Ingram, Wiggins, McDaniels, Miller, etc. are all in the 7'+ wingspan category. 6'10 wingspan would be for backup SF.

It's that, plus he gives up height and weight.

[YogurtProducer]

he has a 6’11 wingspan. Height doesn’t really mean anything.

Funny how we’re worried about Agbaji defense but not dick or RJ which is why he is guarding 3’s

He only has 6'10 wingspan, same as Walter. 6'10 is consider below average for starting SF. Average starter for SF wingspan is pretty much at least 7'
If they are to guard LeBron, Leonard, Anunoby, Tatum, Ingram, Wiggins, McDaniels, Miller, etc. are all in the 7'+ wingspan category. 6'10 wingspan would be for backup SF.

It's that, plus he gives up height and weight.

Seems to be doing fine against Gianni’s tonight.

But that besides the point. He doesn’t have to guard PFs which most of those guys he posted are.

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

He only has 6'10 wingspan, same as Walter. 6'10 is consider below average for starting SF. Average starter for SF wingspan is pretty much at least 7'
If they are to guard LeBron, Leonard, Anunoby, Tatum, Ingram, Wiggins, McDaniels, Miller, etc. are all in the 7'+ wingspan category. 6'10 wingspan would be for backup SF.

It's that, plus he gives up height and weight.

Seems to be doing fine against Gianni’s tonight.

But that besides the point. He doesn’t have to guard PFs which most of those guys he posted are.

He's fine now, you wont feel that way when we hit the playoffs.

[YogurtProducer]

It's that, plus he gives up height and weight.

Seems to be doing fine against Gianni’s tonight.

But that besides the point. He doesn’t have to guard PFs which most of those guys he posted are.

He's fine now, you wont feel that way when we hit the playoffs.

Again, why are we worried about Agbaji defence on a team with IQ, RJ, Dick, etc.

He’s one of our better defenders, and long term projects as a guy who can start as a 2/3 guard.

As currently constructed, neither Dick/RJ are good enough defensively to start.

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

Seems to be doing fine against Gianni’s tonight.

But that besides the point. He doesn’t have to guard PFs which most of those guys he posted are.

He's fine now, you wont feel that way when we hit the playoffs.

Again, why are we worried about Agbaji defence on a team with IQ, RJ, Dick, etc.

He’s one of our better defenders, and long term projects as a guy who can start as a 2/3 guard.

As currently constructed, neither Dick/RJ are good enough defensively to start.

Yeah, but those guys put up 20. I can look the other way.

[YogurtProducer]

He's fine now, you wont feel that way when we hit the playoffs.

Again, why are we worried about Agbaji defence on a team with IQ, RJ, Dick, etc.

He’s one of our better defenders, and long term projects as a guy who can start as a 2/3 guard.

As currently constructed, neither Dick/RJ are good enough defensively to start.

Yeah, but those guys put up 20. I can look the other way.

Putting up 20 and giving up 25 doesn’t help your team

Neither RJ or Dick are good enough offensive players to overcome their defence on a serious team.

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

Again, why are we worried about Agbaji defence on a team with IQ, RJ, Dick, etc.

He’s one of our better defenders, and long term projects as a guy who can start as a 2/3 guard.

As currently constructed, neither Dick/RJ are good enough defensively to start.

Yeah, but those guys put up 20. I can look the other way.

Putting up 20 and giving up 25 doesn’t help your team

Neither RJ or Dick are good enough offensive players to overcome their defence on a serious team.

We're still a few years from serious. We'll need to find a defensive SF by then.

[onions17]

6'5" is small for the position they want him to play. If he can't defend at the SF position, that limits us. He can't provide that.

he has a 6’11 wingspan. Height doesn’t really mean anything.

Funny how we’re worried about Agbaji defense but not dick or RJ which is why he is guarding 3’s

He only has 6'10 wingspan, same as Walter. 6'10 is consider below average for starting SF. Average starter for SF wingspan is pretty much at least 7'
If they are to guard LeBron, Leonard, Anunoby, Tatum, Ingram, Wiggins, McDaniels, Miller, etc. are all in the 7'+ wingspan category. 6'10 wingspan would be for backup SF.

Why did McDaniels make it into this list?
Nobody’s guarding that guy anyway

[Indeed]

he has a 6’11 wingspan. Height doesn’t really mean anything.

Funny how we’re worried about Agbaji defense but not dick or RJ which is why he is guarding 3’s

He only has 6'10 wingspan, same as Walter. 6'10 is consider below average for starting SF. Average starter for SF wingspan is pretty much at least 7'
If they are to guard LeBron, Leonard, Anunoby, Tatum, Ingram, Wiggins, McDaniels, Miller, etc. are all in the 7'+ wingspan category. 6'10 wingspan would be for backup SF.

Why did McDaniels make it into this list?
Nobody’s guarding that guy anyway

The Wolves McDaniels is a starting player, or maybe you forgot green fort?

[gp2015]

He only has 6'10 wingspan, same as Walter. 6'10 is consider below average for starting SF. Average starter for SF wingspan is pretty much at least 7'
If they are to guard LeBron, Leonard, Anunoby, Tatum, Ingram, Wiggins, McDaniels, Miller, etc. are all in the 7'+ wingspan category. 6'10 wingspan would be for backup SF.

Why did McDaniels make it into this list?
Nobody’s guarding that guy anyway

The Wolves McDaniels is a starting player, or maybe you forgot green fort?

He's not a very good offensive player, can barely hit double digits. Don't think you have much to worry about.

I'm sure Ochai would do fine guarding him.

[Indeed]

Why did McDaniels make it into this list?
Nobody’s guarding that guy anyway

The Wolves McDaniels is a starting player, or maybe you forgot green fort?

He's not a very good offensive player, can barely hit double digits. Don't think you have much to worry about.

I'm sure Ochai would do fine guarding him.

My point is starting SF has minimum 7' wingspan, McDaniels is an example on a playoff team (they were last year).
Agbaji does not have 7' wingspan, and pretty much just SG wingspan.

[gp2015]

The Wolves McDaniels is a starting player, or maybe you forgot green fort?

He's not a very good offensive player, can barely hit double digits. Don't think you have much to worry about.

I'm sure Ochai would do fine guarding him.

My point is starting SF has minimum 7' wingspan, McDaniels is an example on a playoff team (they were last year).
Agbaji does not have 7' wingspan, and pretty much just SG wingspan.

It doesn't matter if they're not that good on the offensive end. Ochai might not have the wingspan but he could guard a below average offensive player like Mcdaniels just fine.

Also, playoffs are not anything we need to worry about in the near future.

[LoveMyRaps]

Worst game of the season and it was still pretty solid.

Just missed a few layups, was still perfect from the corner, and defended pretty well!

Grade: B

(HE'S ONLY 24)

[Indeed]

He's not a very good offensive player, can barely hit double digits. Don't think you have much to worry about.

I'm sure Ochai would do fine guarding him.

My point is starting SF has minimum 7' wingspan, McDaniels is an example on a playoff team (they were last year).
Agbaji does not have 7' wingspan, and pretty much just SG wingspan.

It doesn't matter if they're not that good on the offensive end. Ochai might not have the wingspan but he could guard a below average offensive player like Mcdaniels just fine.

Also, playoffs are not anything we need to worry about in the near future.

I don't see why it doesn't matter based on a single match up that we want an undersize SF to play SF, where he neither provide that good on the offensive end. Because we attached to our own player?

[gp2015]

My point is starting SF has minimum 7' wingspan, McDaniels is an example on a playoff team (they were last year).
Agbaji does not have 7' wingspan, and pretty much just SG wingspan.

It doesn't matter if they're not that good on the offensive end. Ochai might not have the wingspan but he could guard a below average offensive player like Mcdaniels just fine.

Also, playoffs are not anything we need to worry about in the near future.

I don't see why it doesn't matter based on a single match up that we want an undersize SF to play SF, where he neither provide that good on the offensive end. Because we attached to our own player?

I just don't understand why would include a player like Mcdaniels, like we need to be concerned about playing him in the playoffs.

First of off, he's not that good and secondly, we won't need to worry about playoffs for a long time. Lots will change from now until then. Why do we need to worry about that now?

Ochai might struggle against bigger, great offensive players like LeBron, Kawhi but who doesn't?

It's not something to be concerned about right now.

Do we need someone bigger like OG to guard the elite SFs in order to compete later? Yes but that's far off.

[Chandan]

It doesn't matter if they're not that good on the offensive end. Ochai might not have the wingspan but he could guard a below average offensive player like Mcdaniels just fine.

Also, playoffs are not anything we need to worry about in the near future.

I don't see why it doesn't matter based on a single match up that we want an undersize SF to play SF, where he neither provide that good on the offensive end. Because we attached to our own player?

I just don't understand why would include a player like Mcdaniels, like we need to be concerned about playing him in the playoffs.

First of off, he's not that good and secondly, we won't need to worry about playoffs for a long time. Lots will change from now until then. Why do we need to worry about that now?

Ochai might struggle against bigger, great offensive players like LeBron, Kawhi but who doesn't?

It's not something to be concerned about right now.

Do we need someone bigger like OG to guard the elite SFs in order to compete later? Yes but that's far off.

well, if scottie isn't going to be that 1A scorer, then he better be playing near elite level defense to justify that contract. Which I think, is a challenge he would welcome. It would be a combined effort between scottie and the big to contain thought Luka type players. I think the more pressing matter is who guards the opposing PG because so far quickley hasn't been that guy. Is Ochai quick enough to contain them?

[gp2015]

I don't see why it doesn't matter based on a single match up that we want an undersize SF to play SF, where he neither provide that good on the offensive end. Because we attached to our own player?

I just don't understand why would include a player like Mcdaniels, like we need to be concerned about playing him in the playoffs.

First of off, he's not that good and secondly, we won't need to worry about playoffs for a long time. Lots will change from now until then. Why do we need to worry about that now?

Ochai might struggle against bigger, great offensive players like LeBron, Kawhi but who doesn't?

It's not something to be concerned about right now.

Do we need someone bigger like OG to guard the elite SFs in order to compete later? Yes but that's far off.

well, if scottie isn't going to be that 1A scorer, then he better be playing near elite level defense to justify that contract. Which I think, is a challenge he would welcome. It would be a combined effort between scottie and the big to contain thought Luka type players. I think the more pressing matter is who guards the opposing PG because so far quickley hasn't been that guy. Is Ochai quick enough to contain them?

Ochai's not likely to keep up with the quicker pgs.

I think that's going to be on IQ. He's going to be on the floor and he needs to guard someone.

[YogurtProducer]

The Wolves McDaniels is a starting player, or maybe you forgot green fort?

He's not a very good offensive player, can barely hit double digits. Don't think you have much to worry about.

I'm sure Ochai would do fine guarding him.

My point is starting SF has minimum 7' wingspan, McDaniels is an example on a playoff team (they were last year).
Agbaji does not have 7' wingspan, and pretty much just SG wingspan.

SF do not have a minimum 7' wingspan.

https://craftednba.com/player-traits/length

Per this site, only 24 players at the SF have a 7' wingspan which includes some guys who are not even on NBA rosters, and a number of backups

Agabji has a similar wingspan to Patrick Williams, Khris Middleton, Miles Bridges, etc. All guys no one would question if they can play the 3.

Much better argument would be in Agbaji is strong enough. Length is just fine.

[YogurtProducer]

It doesn't matter if they're not that good on the offensive end. Ochai might not have the wingspan but he could guard a below average offensive player like Mcdaniels just fine.

Also, playoffs are not anything we need to worry about in the near future.

I don't see why it doesn't matter based on a single match up that we want an undersize SF to play SF, where he neither provide that good on the offensive end. Because we attached to our own player?

I just don't understand why would include a player like Mcdaniels, like we need to be concerned about playing him in the playoffs.

First of off, he's not that good and secondly, we won't need to worry about playoffs for a long time. Lots will change from now until then. Why do we need to worry about that now?

Ochai might struggle against bigger, great offensive players like LeBron, Kawhi but who doesn't?

It's not something to be concerned about right now.

Do we need someone bigger like OG to guard the elite SFs in order to compete later? Yes but that's far off.

And even then, most of those guys play the 4 as much as they play the 3.

[MiamiSPX]

I'm totally down with him staying in the starting lineup, even when we are fully healthy. They need his D.