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The Gradey Dick Thread Part 3

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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 3 

Post#1241 » by Kingsway_fan » Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:30 pm

Duffman100 wrote:I'm sticking by my Reggie Miller ceiling comp


I agree. That was my thinking when he was drafted... not quite as tall... but similar. That's a good ceiling.
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 3 

Post#1242 » by brownbobcat » Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:39 pm

Tripod wrote:Imaging last Nov if sinineone had saud:

"Gradey will lead this draft class in PPG this time next year"

That person might of gotten banned for trolling...lol. And the good thing is, none of his numbers are unsustainable. Like he is shooting 37% from 3....vs Siakam shooting 45%.

I do look forward to possibly a healthy lineup at some point to see how they all mesh together. But Gradey "getting his" is so much more appealing to the eye test and seems much more on the flow of the game vs when RJ goes for his.

We need to have a few good practices and get back to faster ball movement and unselfish play.

I love the DHO/pindown actions they're running for him lately, not just for him to get an open shot but actually get into his dribble with some momentum so he doesn't need to beat guys with a first step
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 3 

Post#1243 » by TorontoBarneys » Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:09 pm

RoteSchroder wrote:
Kingsway_fan wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:C - XXX
F - Barnes
F - XXX
G Dick
G IQ

Key Bench: Walter, Ochai, Shead, Mogbo

Roughly, if I had to guess, this is what the Raps core will look like in a couple years. XXX will likely be filled with our picks in 25/26.

Dick emerging as a (potential) legit top 3/4 guy is pretty big.


Yes, but I also think jury still out on IQ...


And Barnes..he can’t be taking steps back every other year


Barnes hasn't had any chance to show what he can do yet this season. I'd give him 20 games straight before we start judging his progress or lack of it.
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 3 

Post#1244 » by tsherkin » Wed Nov 13, 2024 5:23 pm

TorontoBarneys wrote:Barnes hasn't had any chance to show what he can do yet this season. I'd give him 20 games straight before we start judging his progress or lack of it.


That's fair. I'm not optimistic that he's changed anything, but he certainly needs the chance to show it one way or the other. And we also need to see what he might look like with Gradey creating new issues for the defense, right? That might create a little more space for Scottie, a little more time before the help gets there, etc.
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 3 

Post#1245 » by ontnut » Wed Nov 13, 2024 5:28 pm

Kingsway_fan wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:I'm sticking by my Reggie Miller ceiling comp


I agree. That was my thinking when he was drafted... not quite as tall... but similar. That's a good ceiling.

Yeah, a HOF and top 75 player of all time would indeed be a good ceiling :lol:
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 3 

Post#1246 » by MEDIC » Wed Nov 13, 2024 5:36 pm

MEDIC wrote:I think this off season Gradey needs to.work on being mindful.of when he has the.advantage to draw a foul. The defense is playing him super tight & he needs to start learning how to punish them for it. There have been quite a few plays over the past few games where he had the advantage because the defender was not in a legal defensive position, but playing him tightly. In those situations Gradey chose to avoid contact or pass the ball rather than seek contact..

He is an elite FT shooter & I think he can score a lot more.points from the line..



I had just made the above post after his previous game because I noticed he was avoiding contact when he had the defender on his heels & not in a legal guarding position. There were several times that game where it was obvious that he would have gone to the line if he continued to be aggressive & seek contact..

To see him last night seek contact in those exact same situations was amazing. This kid learns quickly. I don't think we have ever had a prospect that can learn something & put it into practice as quickly as Gradey does.

No idea what his ceiling is.
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 3 

Post#1247 » by anotherhomer » Wed Nov 13, 2024 6:02 pm

MEDIC wrote:
MEDIC wrote:I think this off season Gradey needs to.work on being mindful.of when he has the.advantage to draw a foul. The defense is playing him super tight & he needs to start learning how to punish them for it. There have been quite a few plays over the past few games where he had the advantage because the defender was not in a legal defensive position, but playing him tightly. In those situations Gradey chose to avoid contact or pass the ball rather than seek contact..

He is an elite FT shooter & I think he can score a lot more.points from the line..



I had just made the above post after his previous game because I noticed he was avoiding contact when he had the defender on his heels & not in a legal guarding position. There were several times that game where it was obvious that he would have gone to the line if he continued to be aggressive & seek contact..

To see him last night seek contact in those exact same situations was amazing. This kid learns quickly. I don't think we have ever had a prospect that can learn something & put it into practice as quickly as Gradey does.

No idea what his ceiling is.


A Reggie miller or klay thompson lite

Pretty good for a 13th overall pick
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 3 

Post#1248 » by rafterman » Wed Nov 13, 2024 6:07 pm

Barnes-Flagg-Dick is gonna be a Big Flippin' Deal.

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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 3 

Post#1249 » by MessiahUjiri » Wed Nov 13, 2024 6:19 pm

rafterman wrote:Barnes-Flagg-Dick is gonna be a Big Flippin' Deal.

BFD FTW!

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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 3 

Post#1250 » by Phezmo123 » Wed Nov 13, 2024 6:31 pm

anotherhomer wrote:
MEDIC wrote:
MEDIC wrote:I think this off season Gradey needs to.work on being mindful.of when he has the.advantage to draw a foul. The defense is playing him super tight & he needs to start learning how to punish them for it. There have been quite a few plays over the past few games where he had the advantage because the defender was not in a legal defensive position, but playing him tightly. In those situations Gradey chose to avoid contact or pass the ball rather than seek contact..

He is an elite FT shooter & I think he can score a lot more.points from the line..



I had just made the above post after his previous game because I noticed he was avoiding contact when he had the defender on his heels & not in a legal guarding position. There were several times that game where it was obvious that he would have gone to the line if he continued to be aggressive & seek contact..

To see him last night seek contact in those exact same situations was amazing. This kid learns quickly. I don't think we have ever had a prospect that can learn something & put it into practice as quickly as Gradey does.

No idea what his ceiling is.


A Reggie miller or klay thompson lite

Pretty good for a 13th overall pick

Not lite. He’s on par.
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 3 

Post#1251 » by Scase » Wed Nov 13, 2024 6:36 pm

TorontoBarneys wrote:
RoteSchroder wrote:
Kingsway_fan wrote:
Yes, but I also think jury still out on IQ...


And Barnes..he can’t be taking steps back every other year


Barnes hasn't had any chance to show what he can do yet this season. I'd give him 20 games straight before we start judging his progress or lack of it.

Nah he definitely took a step back, I mean last season it took him like 60 games to get a freak injury, this year it was 4 games, that's some massive regression, smdh.
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 3 

Post#1252 » by ForeverTFC » Wed Nov 13, 2024 6:45 pm

TorontoBarneys wrote:
RoteSchroder wrote:
Kingsway_fan wrote:
Yes, but I also think jury still out on IQ...


And Barnes..he can’t be taking steps back every other year


Barnes hasn't had any chance to show what he can do yet this season. I'd give him 20 games straight before we start judging his progress or lack of it.


Agree with you. But to be fair, isn't the same true for IQ?
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 3 

Post#1253 » by raptorforlife88 » Wed Nov 13, 2024 7:27 pm

Scase wrote:I've been saying it since the trade and Gradey showing he was improved in the second half of last season, RJ is not a long term piece, he is a primary trade piece that will be packaged with others in a few years for a big upgrade like DD was. I don't expect another Kawhi type trade, but rather a much better player coming back.

Our pieces so far are all looking like they are exceeding their draft positions, and we should be able to consolidate the overlap into a better player.


I thought Kawhi was pretty good, but if we can do much better than who am I to complain :lol:
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 3 

Post#1254 » by Chandan » Wed Nov 13, 2024 7:40 pm

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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 3 

Post#1255 » by Phezmo123 » Wed Nov 13, 2024 7:45 pm

ontnut wrote:
Kingsway_fan wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:I'm sticking by my Reggie Miller ceiling comp


I agree. That was my thinking when he was drafted... not quite as tall... but similar. That's a good ceiling.

Yeah, a HOF and top 75 player of all time would indeed be a good ceiling :lol:

so prime scottie and gradey can carry us to the finals?
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 3 

Post#1256 » by Scase » Wed Nov 13, 2024 7:56 pm

raptorforlife88 wrote:
Scase wrote:I've been saying it since the trade and Gradey showing he was improved in the second half of last season, RJ is not a long term piece, he is a primary trade piece that will be packaged with others in a few years for a big upgrade like DD was. I don't expect another Kawhi type trade, but rather a much better player coming back.

Our pieces so far are all looking like they are exceeding their draft positions, and we should be able to consolidate the overlap into a better player.


I thought Kawhi was pretty good, but if we can do much better than who am I to complain :lol:

I meant better than RJ :lol: :lol:
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 3 

Post#1257 » by OakleyDokely » Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:21 pm

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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 3 

Post#1258 » by PushDaRock » Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:26 pm

One super weird stat is he's shooting 46% from within 3 ft and 60% from 3-10 ft.
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 3 

Post#1259 » by ATLTimekeeper » Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:27 pm

Barnes had 6 30 point games in his all-star year last year. Gradey already has 3. Someone is going to have to tell him he is banned from taking charges. Leave that to the 2nd rounders, please.
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 3 

Post#1260 » by TorontoBarneys » Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:31 pm

ForeverTFC wrote:
TorontoBarneys wrote:
RoteSchroder wrote:
And Barnes..he can’t be taking steps back every other year


Barnes hasn't had any chance to show what he can do yet this season. I'd give him 20 games straight before we start judging his progress or lack of it.


Agree with you. But to be fair, isn't the same true for IQ?


Yes. IQ is just as unlucky as Barnes this season. Gonna be a slow-burn type of season. Not sure we need to much at the deadline other than offload Brown.

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