Booker for Biid....?

[Scoot McGroot]

Embiid also can't be traded this season due to the extension.
.

And this is even more important. Embiid can’t be dealt at all this season because he signed his extension that exceeds extend and trade rules. And every season, he’ll make more than Booker, so Phoenix cannot trade Booker for Embiid until they get under (and stay under for a full season due to hard cap they’d create) the second apron to aggregate salary.

That would work out too as the Suns have expiring deals that would bridge the gap in what Booker and Biid are making.

I would rather do the deal sooner, as I'm not sure how long Embiid will be around at this level but it is what it is.

So you’re going to wait until 27/28 when Phoenix has Beal/KD off the books and able to get under the second apron? Again, Embiid cannot be traded at all this season. And Phoenix would need to end any trade trade below the second apro, and would be hard capped at the second apron if they aggregate for Embiid.

The Suns expiring deals would have been expired before Embiid can be traded.

[Slim Charless]

And this is even more important. Embiid can’t be dealt at all this season because he signed his extension that exceeds extend and trade rules. And every season, he’ll make more than Booker, so Phoenix cannot trade Booker for Embiid until they get under (and stay under for a full season due to hard cap they’d create) the second apron to aggregate salary.

That would work out too as the Suns have expiring deals that would bridge the gap in what Booker and Biid are making.

I would rather do the deal sooner, as I'm not sure how long Embiid will be around at this level but it is what it is.

So you’re going to wait until 27/28 when Phoenix has Beal/KD off the books and able to get under the second apron? Again, Embiid cannot be traded at all this season. And Phoenix would need to end any trade trade below the second apro, and would be hard capped at the second apron if they aggregate for Embiid.

The Suns expiring deals would have been expired before Embiid can be traded.

So as long as they waited till after the draft (new league year) before making the trade? Again, I'm fine with that. If we're only 2 million apart and we have like 5 million expiring in the offseason....that should clear us. I thought.

[Scoot McGroot]

That would work out too as the Suns have expiring deals that would bridge the gap in what Booker and Biid are making.

I would rather do the deal sooner, as I'm not sure how long Embiid will be around at this level but it is what it is.

So you’re going to wait until 27/28 when Phoenix has Beal/KD off the books and able to get under the second apron? Again, Embiid cannot be traded at all this season. And Phoenix would need to end any trade trade below the second apro, and would be hard capped at the second apron if they aggregate for Embiid.

The Suns expiring deals would have been expired before Embiid can be traded.

So as long as they waited till after the draft (new league year) before making the trade? Again, I'm fine with that. If we're only 2 million apart and we have like 5 million expiring in the offseason....that should clear us. I thought.

Phoenix is already $20m over next years 2nd apron, and would be hard capped at the second apron for NEXT YEAR if they trade Booker for Embiid this offseason. Again, Phoenix would have to aggregate to acquire Embiid, and would have to end any trade below the second apron, both for the summer AND for next season.

The same problem exists this summer and next summer that Phoenix has this year.

[Laimbeer]

I get people hate Embiid and he's had a ton of negativity swirling around him, but he's worth a lot more than Booker. He is a top 5 MVPish player who has the ability to be the alpha on a title team. Booker is like 15-20 and isn't an alpha for a serious contender. There's an ocean of difference, even with Embiid's (overrated) bagage.

[Slim Charless]

I get people hate Embiid and he's had a ton of negativity swirling around him, but he's worth a lot more than Booker. He is a top 5 MVPish player who has the ability to be the alpha on a title team. Booker is like 15-20 and isn't an alpha for a serious contender. There's an ocean of difference, even with Embiid's (overrated) bagage.

Booker took a team to the finals, Embiid hasn't made it out of the 2nd round.

[the_process]

This trade isn’t even close Phonex does have enough left to make this happen.

I think player for player it's not that far off. Mostly due to Embiid never being able to play. Booker also doesn't have the work ethic issues that Biid does. I also am not 100% sure that he even wants to still be there-or that Philly fans still like him.

I guess you can speak to that last part better than me.

Snapshot moment in time, yeah, there are a lot people fed up with him

But there were a lot people ready to run Siriani and Hurts out of town about 5 weeks ago.

Philly fan barometers extremely volatile and not a good gauge for this type of stuff, particularly when things are going bad

Still ready to run Sirianni, Hurts, and Embiid. JMO.

[Slim Charless]

I think player for player it's not that far off. Mostly due to Embiid never being able to play. Booker also doesn't have the work ethic issues that Biid does. I also am not 100% sure that he even wants to still be there-or that Philly fans still like him.

I guess you can speak to that last part better than me.

Snapshot moment in time, yeah, there are a lot people fed up with him

But there were a lot people ready to run Siriani and Hurts out of town about 5 weeks ago.

Philly fan barometers extremely volatile and not a good gauge for this type of stuff, particularly when things are going bad

Still ready to run Sirianni, Hurts, and Embiid. JMO.

I like Hurts. You guys gave us a monster game in the super bowl. He's really good

[the_process]

I get people hate Embiid and he's had a ton of negativity swirling around him, but he's worth a lot more than Booker. He is a top 5 MVPish player who has the ability to be the alpha on a title team. Booker is like 15-20 and isn't an alpha for a serious contender. There's an ocean of difference, even with Embiid's (overrated) bagage.

Booker took a team to the finals, Embiid hasn't made it out of the 2nd round.

I feel like it's pretty even.

Making this legal when the Suns are a 2nd apron team and cannot aggregate is a real doozy, though.

Nothing can happen until the offseason, anyway.

[the_process]

Snapshot moment in time, yeah, there are a lot people fed up with him

But there were a lot people ready to run Siriani and Hurts out of town about 5 weeks ago.

Philly fan barometers extremely volatile and not a good gauge for this type of stuff, particularly when things are going bad

Still ready to run Sirianni, Hurts, and Embiid. JMO.

I like Hurts. You guys gave us a monster game in the super bowl. He's really good

Hurts and two 1sts for Mahomes then?

[GoBobs]

I get people hate Embiid and he's had a ton of negativity swirling around him, but he's worth a lot more than Booker. He is a top 5 MVPish player who has the ability to be the alpha on a title team. Booker is like 15-20 and isn't an alpha for a serious contender. There's an ocean of difference, even with Embiid's (overrated) bagage.

Booker is a soft Jumpshooter.

Embiid is mostly a soft jumpshooter who can also bring some other things. He also gets hurt alot. Seems to play poorly during the start of the year. Pushes a reporter. He has a player option for 67 mil 5 years from now. I think you would be surprised how few teams are going to want to buy during a moment when he is playing terrible for a 2-12 team. The suns are one of the few teams that might be desperate enough.

[Slim Charless]

Still ready to run Sirianni, Hurts, and Embiid. JMO.

I like Hurts. You guys gave us a monster game in the super bowl. He's really good

Hurts and two 1sts for Mahomes then?

Lol....pass.

I still put him top 10 easy. Maybe top 5 QB.

[tobysunsfan]

Despite Embiid being an MVP-level player, he is one of the most unreliable players in the league, both on the court and off the court. He has literally never been fully-fit for a single post season, and Phoenix would be making this trade to win in the post season.

Why would Phoenix trade someone who is probably going to be the most loved Suns player of all time for someone who can't even arrive on time to a single team activity this season.