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Post#881 » by KembaWalker » Mon Nov 25, 2024 12:52 pm

JMAC3 wrote:Also, need to see what the news is with Grant, but this is probably while making a trade 4 weeks into the season isn't a good idea. Most of us would have traded for a center 2 weeks ago, now we have Richards, Mark and Diabate all close to being healthy. Meanwhile both our best PFs are probably about to miss the next 5+ games minimum.


Says more about the teams crappy injury reporting than fans “panicking”. Nobody would have been surprised last week if Mark and Nick weren’t playing until February. Obviously the team knows better than what they tell us but everyone knows Grant ain’t coming back any time soon lol
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Post#882 » by EmpireFalls » Mon Nov 25, 2024 2:35 pm

Having slept on it, I am now firmly against trading anything of value to get an “impact” 4/5. The season is over. You can try to deny that but it’s true, at absolute best we could scrape into the play-in and get demolished like under JB.

Much better to keep the lottery pick and reload.

Cut Curry, Rhoden, Jeffries, Gibson, load up on some talent in the G League and re-sign Jalen McDaniels, and then get Cooper Flagg.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#883 » by JMAC3 » Tue Nov 26, 2024 5:22 pm

EmpireFalls wrote:Having slept on it, I am now firmly against trading anything of value to get an “impact” 4/5. The season is over. You can try to deny that but it’s true, at absolute best we could scrape into the play-in and get demolished like under JB.

Much better to keep the lottery pick and reload.

Cut Curry, Rhoden, Jeffries, Gibson, load up on some talent in the G League and re-sign Jalen McDaniels, and then get Cooper Flagg.


IDK I am torn because while getting a top 5 pick in theory sounds alright, we also are seeing LaMelo enter the next level of development and us getting to play a real 6 game playoff series feels like it would be pretty massive for LaMelo, Brandon, Coach Lee in our development timetable. We are 2 games out of the 6 seed right now because the East is so bad this year.

If we are out of the playoffs in Feb and LaMelo is still playing like this it will be a bombardment with Hornets should trade LaMelo from all media outlets. Just doesn't feel like a very healthy place to be as a franchise at that point whether we are adamant we aren't trading him or not. We have a surplus of picks, spending some of that now might not be that bad. If it works and we sneak into the playoffs it would probably give us the confidence to actually pull the trigger on the big trade down the road.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#884 » by JMAC3 » Tue Nov 26, 2024 5:31 pm

Exclude the picks because they are not adding to the product on the floor right now, but if we look at what we actually got back for PJ Washington, Terry Rozier and Gordon Hayward at the deadline last year.... They averaged 13 ppg, 14 ppg and 22 ppg for us in limited time played last year.

Tre Mann- solid but hurt
Micic - sucks out of rotation
Grant Williams - Out for season
Seth Curry - fringe rotation piece
Poku - waived
Bertans - waived

I am happy to have the picks, but at same time we can't be shocked that we are worse off in the short term until we use these picks to add players. Specifically Terry, we are missing another guy that can give us 18+ pts a night. Peterson needs to recognize that and try to add to the roster.

Again no issue with the roster shake up, but you can't remove talent and not replace it and expect to improve in this league.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#885 » by SWedd523 » Tue Nov 26, 2024 5:34 pm

Lamelo and Brandon have accelerated the timeline for this team.

They cannot afford to let Melo have all time high usage and force him and Brandon to shoulder 80% of the offense by themselves.

That is a recipe for disaster.

The FO needs to make the hard decision on if they want to blow it away for ANOTHER year or work to getting them a legit roster. Injuries be damned, they need help now.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#886 » by KembaWalker » Tue Nov 26, 2024 6:01 pm

i dont get how anyone could look at this team and think that the thing it needs is some more rookies
theres always more rookies, theres always "best prospect since LeBron" coming every 2-3 years

its crazy to me that I've watched a team like Philly "mortgage their future" like 5 times since the last time this team has done jack ****. it never mattered because their future was always Joel Embiid and great players on good teams that want to try can always find a way. our future is already on the team. Its time to start trying to make some noise for once
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#887 » by JMAC3 » Tue Nov 26, 2024 7:40 pm

I think at this point knowing what we know about the team, I have moved on from wanting to trade for a center. Unless it is a 3 draft pick+ type of center like a Bam Adebayo. I don't know if adding Poeltl is some massive upgrade and it actually takes away mins from guys that probably are good enough to play for us.

Or if we trade for Valanciunas, what does the center rotation even look like?

Mark (24) - JVal (24) - Nick (0) - Moussa (0).

Meanwhile we have guys like Tidjane, Micic, Seth playing 15+ mpg? Green or Cody playing 25+?

I think trading for a guy with more positional flexibility would be my preferred move. Whether that is wing who can play the 2/3. A forward that can play 3/4. Or even a 4 that can play small 5 ball as a shooter. Those all seem more valuable to me looking at our projected roster the rest of the year.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#888 » by luciano-davidwesley » Tue Nov 26, 2024 7:44 pm

Trading some picks we acquired just to piss away our first next draft to San Antonio seems like a really short-sighted move. Even Dallas with prime Doncic shamelessly tanked away to ensure they kept a (worse) first.

IDGAF what the media thinks of Charlotte. The national media are clowns anyway.

Next year is the year we change gears.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#889 » by NMBSurfin » Tue Nov 26, 2024 7:57 pm

3 centers we may be targeting before the deadline

DeAndre Ayton from the Portland Trail Blazers, Brooklyn Nets' star Nic Claxton, or Atlanta Hawks' big-man Clint Capela

https://www.si.com/nba/hornets/news/hornets-predicted-to-go-after-three-centers-at-nba-trade-deadline
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#890 » by KembaWalker » Tue Nov 26, 2024 8:12 pm

If we threw away a decent chance at getting LaMelo and Brandon playoff experience for Liam McNeely or Kneuppel I would be distraught. theres no way its worth burning an entire year for a tiny chance at Flagg
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#891 » by JMAC3 » Tue Nov 26, 2024 8:15 pm

luciano-davidwesley wrote:Trading some picks we acquired just to piss away our first next draft to San Antonio seems like a really short-sighted move. Even Dallas with prime Doncic shamelessly tanked away to ensure they kept a (worse) first.

IDGAF what the media thinks of Charlotte. The national media are clowns anyway.

Next year is the year we change gears.


I wouldn't even be mad if we lost the pick to San Antonio. That would mean we were a legit playoff team, not some playin bracket loser. Ending that drought alone is worth more than picking 7th in the draft.

As of right now we have a 9% at Cooper Flagg. I just simmed the lottery and we picked 8th. We could go 0-82 and have at best 14% at Flagg. Tanking isn't really some huge payoff that most fans think it is.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#892 » by JustBuzzin » Tue Nov 26, 2024 9:13 pm

We have 2 cornerstones if we add a significant piece there is no telling what this team could do in the playoffs.

I'm all for trading for guys like Lavine/Jimmy B/Ingram


I think the lottery pick will be determined by the next month. We about to get some healthy bodies back on the court if we still losing games with a healthy roster then we obviously stay put.

But if we still in the playoff hunt by trade deadline I say go for it with one of those names I mentioned earlier.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#893 » by Bassman » Tue Nov 26, 2024 11:35 pm

I also believe this team will not seek to add a significant player via trade until they know what they’re dealing with near the deadline. We all want to see what this squad could do with a very dependably healthy Mark, Miles at full speed and Richards in reserve. That won’t likely manifest itself this season, as even healthy players will need time to gel. Frankly, our record near the deadline should still be in lottery land, but agree with making a deal for the RIGHT key player if it becomes available. Putting a proven still young talent beside Melo and Miller would be huge for the future.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#894 » by yosemiteben » Wed Nov 27, 2024 12:30 am

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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#895 » by Diop » Wed Nov 27, 2024 12:44 am

SWedd523 wrote:Lamelo and Brandon have accelerated the timeline for this team.

They cannot afford to let Melo have all time high usage and force him and Brandon to shoulder 80% of the offense by themselves.

That is a recipe for disaster.

The FO needs to make the hard decision on if they want to blow it away for ANOTHER year or work to getting them a legit roster. Injuries be damned, they need help now.

I could definitely see this being a thing. A lot will depend on how Lamelo responds to the losing and media saying he should be in a bigger market.

If he starts making noise that he needs help now, they might have to do something.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#896 » by yosemiteben » Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:35 pm

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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#897 » by KembaWalker » Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:25 pm

just for fun, would yall trade Miller and a pick or two for Edwards?
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#898 » by KembaWalker » Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:28 pm

yosemiteben wrote:Tin foil hat time:

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Post#899 » by luciano-davidwesley » Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:36 pm

KembaWalker wrote:just for fun, would yall trade Miller and a pick or two for Edwards?

Yes. Definitely
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#900 » by JustBuzzin » Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:46 pm

KembaWalker wrote:just for fun, would yall trade Miller and a pick or two for Edwards?

As the biggest Miller fan on this board hell to the yes!

That's a no brainer.

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