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Re: GT: Magic vs Knicks 12/3 Tue 7:30PM TNT 

Post#121 » by thebuzzardman » Tue Dec 3, 2024 9:31 pm

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thebuzzardman wrote:Knicks lack of a good secondary playmaker/scorer type in the starting lineup means they are more dependent on chemistry, which I think is still 10 or 15 games away.


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He's not elite enough.
That secondary player who is more if a three level scorer that can get their own against tougher defenses.

Towns is a great scorer and solves being able to play 5 out, but ultimately Hart, OG and most likely Bridges don't quite bring the level of 1v1 creation that handles tough defense more easily.
Towns needs to be set up.
That leaves Brunson as the one player on the team with that as a truly plus skill

They have a good offense
Their offense will get better
I think that shortcoming separates them from true contenders and also makes them vulnerable to tough defense, especially before they are fully in sync.
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Re: GT: Magic vs Knicks 12/3 Tue 7:30PM TNT 

Post#122 » by Chanel Bomber » Tue Dec 3, 2024 9:32 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:If Guan0 was smart and wanted to make fun of me he should be using that I was wrong about Wagner pre draft. instead he's tearing down a very good player in banchero to try and get at me. a true villain.

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Re: GT: Magic vs Knicks 12/3 Tue 7:30PM TNT 

Post#123 » by aromeoj » Tue Dec 3, 2024 9:33 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:So. I think that the Magic might switch a lot because of their personnel.

What's the best way to counter a switch everything defense?


Ghost Screens, Boomerang Actions, Double Screen to Flares, Spain Action (Which we run a lot), Screen the Man guarding you, Staggers with slips and re-screens.

There are a bunch...i wish i could give the knicks some plays...specifically SLOB's and BLOB's
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Re: GT: Magic vs Knicks 12/3 Tue 7:30PM TNT 

Post#124 » by Magic-man4609 » Tue Dec 3, 2024 9:33 pm

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Magic-man4609 wrote:Ahhh yes. We have finally pulled up to MSG. It was nice sightseeing the boroughs this past weekend, but tonight we clock in, hammer out and stand on business….Knicks, your offense cannot touch our defense.

Eat a bag of dicks


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Re: GT: Magic vs Knicks 12/3 Tue 7:30PM TNT 

Post#125 » by stuporman » Tue Dec 3, 2024 10:07 pm

Magic-man4609 wrote:Ahhh yes. We have finally pulled up to MSG. It was nice sightseeing the boroughs this past weekend, but tonight we clock in, hammer out and stand on business….Knicks, your offense cannot touch our defense.

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Re: GT: Magic vs Knicks 12/3 Tue 7:30PM TNT 

Post#126 » by stuporman » Tue Dec 3, 2024 10:15 pm

So you are telling me the Knicks have been the 4th best in opponent rim% for almost twice as many games as they were 3rd worst in it? Then they must be great and defending the 3...right? right?
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Re: GT: Magic vs Knicks 12/3 Tue 7:30PM TNT 

Post#127 » by Capn'O » Tue Dec 3, 2024 10:22 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:If Guan0 was smart and wanted to make fun of me he should be using that I was wrong about Wagner pre draft. instead he's tearing down a very good player in banchero to try and get at me. a true villain.


I also thought that Wagner was going to be a bust. Granted, my main evidence was that white guys drafted around 8 usually suck :lol:

On the Franz Wagner apology form, I can check the "I didn't watch the actual games" box.
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Re: GT: Magic vs Knicks 12/3 Tue 7:30PM TNT 

Post#128 » by Besart19 » Tue Dec 3, 2024 10:30 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Knicks lack of a good secondary playmaker/scorer type in the starting lineup means they are more dependent on chemistry, which I think is still 10 or 15 games away.


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He's not elite enough.
That secondary player who is more if a three level scorer that can get their own against tougher defenses.

Towns is a great scorer and solves being able to play 5 out, but ultimately Hart, OG and most likely Bridges don't quite bring the level of 1v1 creation that handles tough defense more easily.
Towns needs to be set up.
That leaves Brunson as the one player on the team with that as a truly plus skill

They have a good offense
Their offense will get better
I think that shortcoming separates them from true contenders and also makes them vulnerable to tough defense, especially before they are fully in sync.


even the Bulls had just one player good at it… this is not even an analysis… Tim Duncan needed to be set up too… and Brunson is better than either Manu and Parker
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Re: GT: Magic vs Knicks 12/3 Tue 7:30PM TNT 

Post#129 » by SOUL » Tue Dec 3, 2024 10:32 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:If Guan0 was smart and wanted to make fun of me he should be using that I was wrong about Wagner pre draft. instead he's tearing down a very good player in banchero to try and get at me. a true villain.


I also thought that Wagner was going to be a bust. Granted, my main evidence was that white guys drafted around 8 usually suck :lol:

On the Franz Wagner apology form, I can check the "I didn't watch the actual games" box.


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Re: GT: Magic vs Knicks 12/3 Tue 7:30PM TNT 

Post#130 » by Capn'O » Tue Dec 3, 2024 10:36 pm

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Capn'O wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:If Guan0 was smart and wanted to make fun of me he should be using that I was wrong about Wagner pre draft. instead he's tearing down a very good player in banchero to try and get at me. a true villain.


I also thought that Wagner was going to be a bust. Granted, my main evidence was that white guys drafted around 8 usually suck :lol:

On the Franz Wagner apology form, I can check the "I didn't watch the actual games" box.


The **** we got for passing on Bouknight... :o even from our own fanbase lol


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Re: GT: Magic vs Knicks 12/3 Tue 7:30PM TNT 

Post#131 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Dec 3, 2024 10:37 pm

Capn'O wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:If Guan0 was smart and wanted to make fun of me he should be using that I was wrong about Wagner pre draft. instead he's tearing down a very good player in banchero to try and get at me. a true villain.


I also thought that Wagner was going to be a bust. Granted, my main evidence was that white guys drafted around 8 usually suck :lol:

On the Franz Wagner apology form, I can check the "I didn't watch the actual games" box.

I thought he was gonna be a mid role player lol
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Re: GT: Magic vs Knicks 12/3 Tue 7:30PM TNT 

Post#132 » by thebuzzardman » Tue Dec 3, 2024 11:06 pm

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thebuzzardman wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
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He's not elite enough.
That secondary player who is more if a three level scorer that can get their own against tougher defenses.

Towns is a great scorer and solves being able to play 5 out, but ultimately Hart, OG and most likely Bridges don't quite bring the level of 1v1 creation that handles tough defense more easily.
Towns needs to be set up.
That leaves Brunson as the one player on the team with that as a truly plus skill

They have a good offense
Their offense will get better
I think that shortcoming separates them from true contenders and also makes them vulnerable to tough defense, especially before they are fully in sync.


even the Bulls had just one player good at it… this is not even an analysis… Tim Duncan needed to be set up too… and Brunson is better than either Manu and Parker

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Re: GT: Magic vs Knicks 12/3 Tue 7:30PM TNT 

Post#133 » by 2010 » Tue Dec 3, 2024 11:34 pm

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Re: GT: Magic vs Knicks 12/3 Tue 7:30PM TNT 

Post#134 » by JayTWill » Tue Dec 3, 2024 11:44 pm

aromeoj wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:So. I think that the Magic might switch a lot because of their personnel.

What's the best way to counter a switch everything defense?


Ghost Screens, Boomerang Actions, Double Screen to Flares, Spain Action (Which we run a lot), Screen the Man guarding you, Staggers with slips and re-screens.

There are a bunch...i wish i could give the knicks some plays...specifically SLOB's and BLOB's


I'm not an expert on play calling. How would you describe the Knicks' offensive system? It seems pretty basic to me but i'm sure there are plenty of things that I am missing.
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Re: GT: Magic vs Knicks 12/3 Tue 7:30PM TNT 

Post#135 » by Orlando Dawg » Wed Dec 4, 2024 12:01 am

The Magic don’t loose games anymore.
They are on a mission from God.
They have a player nicknamed The Minister of Defense
-refs don’t call fouls on him (in exchange for early release from purgatory)
-opposing players throw up prayers
That’s how the Knicks might win tonight
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Re: GT: Magic vs Knicks 12/3 Tue 7:30PM TNT 

Post#136 » by Capn'O » Wed Dec 4, 2024 12:02 am

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I think it more points to Pritchard and Hart being awesome role players than it does anything negative about Brunson or Brown. Particularly Brunson, who is a very high efficiency guy for such a high usage first option type player. The difference in points and assists is not minor.
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Re: GT: Magic vs Knicks 12/3 Tue 7:30PM TNT 

Post#137 » by Capn'O » Wed Dec 4, 2024 12:04 am

Orlando Dawg wrote:The Magic don’t loose games anymore.
They are on a mission from God.
They have a player nicknamed The Minister of Defense
-refs don’t call fouls on him (in exchange for early release from purgatory)
-opposing players throw up prayers
That’s how the Knicks might win tonight


Got it. So either you win or we cheated/got lucky. You've got your excuse now FOH!!!
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Re: GT: Magic vs Knicks 12/3 Tue 7:30PM TNT 

Post#138 » by Besart19 » Wed Dec 4, 2024 12:09 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
Besart19 wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:He's not elite enough.
That secondary player who is more if a three level scorer that can get their own against tougher defenses.

Towns is a great scorer and solves being able to play 5 out, but ultimately Hart, OG and most likely Bridges don't quite bring the level of 1v1 creation that handles tough defense more easily.
Towns needs to be set up.
That leaves Brunson as the one player on the team with that as a truly plus skill

They have a good offense
Their offense will get better
I think that shortcoming separates them from true contenders and also makes them vulnerable to tough defense, especially before they are fully in sync.


even the Bulls had just one player good at it… this is not even an analysis… Tim Duncan needed to be set up too… and Brunson is better than either Manu and Parker

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Re: GT: Magic vs Knicks 12/3 Tue 7:30PM TNT 

Post#139 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Dec 4, 2024 12:14 am

Orlando Dawg wrote:The Magic don’t loose games anymore.
They are on a mission from God.
They have a player nicknamed The Minister of Defense
-refs don’t call fouls on him (in exchange for early release from purgatory)
-opposing players throw up prayers
That’s how the Knicks might win tonight

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Re: GT: Magic vs Knicks 12/3 Tue 7:30PM TNT 

Post#140 » by 2010 » Wed Dec 4, 2024 12:16 am

Did Wally just say “lay wood?” :lol:
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