PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24

[Context]

You like that KAT is taking this on, he wants this city

He was bred for NY- just like Brunson was...our story keeps getting better and better KG...

[HarthorneWingo]

In the last 2:51 of the 4th quarter, RJ

1. Turned the ball over
2. Shot an airball 3 from the right corner, and
3. Closed out late on KATS’s 3 from the left wing to put the Knicks up 113-108 with 6.3 in the game.

Waking up knowing that RJ isn’t a Knick and how we were right about him. We know ball!

Yes we do!

[HEZI]

In the Thibs system we have been playing Hart and Bridges defense have defenitely been subpar this year. Having Mitch in the middle made everyone look good since on those blow bys Mitch would be there to clean the mess.

What some people dont understand is even if KAT continues to play the 5 for like 24-28 minutes a game. Having Mitch even for the remaining 20-24 minutes a game at the 5 would make a HUGE difference.

So worst case you wouldn't be playing the lockdown D all game like we played post OG last year (before all the crazy injuries hit) but playing it half the time with a greatly improved offense.

Inability to stay in front of your man isn’t a “Thibs system” issue. That’s a player issue. But yes because they do suck at guarding on the perimeter and constantly give up drives, a rim protector would help a great deal because they can at least have some cover in the paint and not have it become a layup line like last night and throughout most of the season so far.

Actually while you might be right it can be more nuanced than that. For instance what type of leverage is Thibs having them play. What type of positioning is he asking them to play? A lot can contribute to waht on the surface seems like just 'crappy' D by the player.

Highly doubt that the gameplan is to give up layups and 3s. No coach, especially Thibs, is wanting them to give up both. Might be one or the other but not both which is what we do

[stuporman]

Not a very inspiring team game. They have to get it together. Nail bitter against the Raptors???

Everyone trying to tell themselves how great this team has looked, when it hasn't looked that good all year.

I guess they need another 20 games to "gel"

Will 40 games be enough?
60?
80, just in time for the playoffs?

You've been here long enough to not know the cope mantra... .500 till new year's day. As inconsistent as they have been so far this season they are still 15-9.

[TKKnicks1]

Not a very inspiring team game. They have to get it together. Nail bitter against the Raptors???

Everyone trying to tell themselves how great this team has looked, when it hasn't looked that good all year.

I guess they need another 20 games to "gel"

Will 40 games be enough?
60?
80, just in time for the playoffs?

You've been here long enough to not know the cope mantra... .500 till new year's day. As inconsistent as they have been so far this season they are still 14-9.

15-9 which puts them 8th best in the league with the number 1 offense. IMO they are still not completely there and we are about 1/3 of the way into the season but they have definitely surpassed my expectations thus far. I thought we would be .500 till January.

[Context]

OG has done it again:

3 Blocks
2 Steals
10 Contested Shots
7 Deflections

Lead the team in every category

[Guano]

Which one of you heathens is Salvatore?

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[thebuzzardman]

This was a loss if Towns didn’t play. Not just from the last 5 points but also he removed Barnes

Knicks with another win over a team missing one of their best players...best two players actually

Maybe these other teams should stop running their players into the ground???

There are some legit injuries but there is also a bunch of lying to rest players without Silver complaining

[sol537]

This team will take until early January to gel and get closer to what they'll be in the playoffs. That means Mitch has to return, Precious has to get his legs under him (we've only seen flashes so far), and the rest of the guys have to get more comfortable on both ends. We'll continue to have our ups and downs for another month, month and a half... It's frustrating but it is what it is.

[stuporman]

Everyone trying to tell themselves how great this team has looked, when it hasn't looked that good all year.

I guess they need another 20 games to "gel"

Will 40 games be enough?
60?
80, just in time for the playoffs?

You've been here long enough to not know the cope mantra... .500 till new year's day. As inconsistent as they have been so far this season they are still 14-9.

15-9 which puts them 8th best in the league with the number 1 offense. IMO they are still not completely there and we are about 1/3 of the way into the season but they have definitely surpassed my expectations thus far. I thought we would be .500 till January.

The concept '.500 till new year's day' is based on that Thib's Knicks teams have been around .500 until new year's day when they tend to surge later in the season as that particular season's roster jels and becomes more consistent. I have been saying it repeatedly through the beginning of the season to give some context to it.

The fact that this group is ahead of that pace while still not playing up to their potential consistently shows something. Exactly what I'm not going to say but I can speculate that once the 'new year's day' threshold passes we may get a fuller picture of what they can be.

There's going to be inconsistent stretches and performances earlier in the season if Thib's past Knicks teams are any indication that get ironed out and they grow in cohesiveness on both ends of the court as they season goes along. This is what history tells us but time will tell what this team does.

[Iron Mantis]

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Players averaging 23 /5 /5

Giannis Antetokounmpo
Nikola Jokić
LaMelo Ball
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
Luka Dončić
Jayson Tatum
De'Aaron Fox
Franz Wagner
Tyler Herro
Cade Cunningham
LeBron James
Stephen Curry

And....

RJ Barrett

The kid won. Proved his haters wrong. Got em panic-posting.

[robillionaire]

You've been here long enough to not know the cope mantra... .500 till new year's day. As inconsistent as they have been so far this season they are still 14-9.

15-9 which puts them 8th best in the league with the number 1 offense. IMO they are still not completely there and we are about 1/3 of the way into the season but they have definitely surpassed my expectations thus far. I thought we would be .500 till January.

The concept '.500 till new year's day' is based on that Thib's Knicks teams have been around .500 until new year's day when they tend to surge later in the season as that particular season's roster jels and becomes more consistent. I have been saying it repeatedly through the beginning of the season to give some context to it.

The fact that this group is ahead of that pace while still not playing up to their potential consistently shows something. Excetly what I'm not going to say but I can speculate that once the 'new year's day' threshold passes we may get a fuller picture of what they can be.

There's going to be inconsistent stretches and performances earlier in the season if Thib's past Knicks teams are any indication that get ironed out and they grow in cohesiveness on both ends of the court as they season goes along. This is what history tells us but time will tell what this team does.

Well a lot of that is from making a trade around New Year’s Day like trading for Rose, Josh Hart, or OG not because the team grew in cohesiveness. (We also tried this with scam in 2022 but it didn’t work out)

I don’t think we need one as badly this time since we are already a pretty solid team but we’ve done something 4 years in a row now. Personally I expect a Mitch trade

[Chanel Bomber]

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nice to see

This is great. We need to generate 3s off off-the-ball movement from OG and Bridges (but mostly Bridges as he's much more mobile). Otherwise we just become too predictable.

This version of Bridges (decent volume of 3s and respectable conversion plus off-ball movement plus solid defense plus the usual midrangs game) makes us a legitimate contender imo, assuming health. He's the most crucial variable.

[rajajackal]

we went from ballhog barrett on the wing to og, hart, and mikal. crazy talented front office. good win go knicks

[Capn'O]

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*snickers*

Ah. Gotta love it.

Hart had that one cocked and loaded for weeks.

[mpharris36]

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nice to see

This is great. We need to generate 3s off off-the-ball movement from OG and Bridges (but mostly Bridges as he's much more mobile). Otherwise we just become too predictable.

This version of Bridges (decent volume of 3s and respectable conversion plus off-ball movement plus solid defense plus the usual midrangs game) makes us a legitimate contender imo, assuming health. He's the most crucial variable.

Yeah I think you know what you are getting from Brunson/KAT offensively nightly for the most part. You know what you are getting from OG defensively nightly. You know the extra effort plays you are getting from Hart (rebounding, secondary playmarking, finishing).

Mikal certainly can swing this team to match up against BOS potentially if he can be that 3rd scorer on solid EFF and good defense.

He is also our highest volume 3 pt shooter and outside of him I feel like Deuce is the best relocating for 3's.

[Guano]

man do I enjoy the anti-RJ posts. He is so good now, that the "SEE he sucks" posts come when he hangs an efficient 30 on one of the best perimeter defenders in the league while playing with a bunch of 2nd and 3rd stringers never change guys!

So good he did all this in the clutch. Never change guys!

In the last 2:51 of the 4th quarter, RJ

1. Turned the ball over
2. Shot an airball 3 from the right corner, and
3. Closed out late on KATS’s 3 from the left wing to put the Knicks up 113-108 with 6.3 in the game.

[HEZI]

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Players averaging 23 /5 /5

Giannis Antetokounmpo
Nikola Jokić
LaMelo Ball
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
Luka Dončić
Jayson Tatum
De'Aaron Fox
Franz Wagner
Tyler Herro
Cade Cunningham
LeBron James
Stephen Curry

And....

RJ Barrett

The kid won. Proved his haters wrong. Got em panic-posting.

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[Capn'O]

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nice to see

Bridges new form, in final form is starting to look like...


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wait for it...


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Spoiler:

[knicks94]

No team will ever win a title with RJ as a number 1 or 2 option.

I say good riddance!