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Re: Jimmy Butler open to trade (prefers hometown Houston Rockets) 

Post#21 » by Chuck Everett » Tue Dec 10, 2024 4:13 pm

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What would last years playoffs have to do with Butler on the Rockets this year?

What are you even trying to argue?


You couldn't even answer my question. He was hurt last year in the playoffs. Talked all that **** and didn't even suit up. He's a year older and worse. You want Houston to gut their team for an aging narcissist because you don't like Jalen Green. Houston is not putting up with Butler antics when they don't have to. Udoka wouldn't ever go for it because he's uncontrollable.

Does that answer your question?
So, he was injured last year, meaning he'll be injured every year.

Got it!


Then Miami should keep him. Problem solved.
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Re: Jimmy Butler open to trade (prefers hometown Houston Rockets) 

Post#22 » by Tottery » Tue Dec 10, 2024 4:25 pm

I like the idea of him playing for the Warriors, but I don't know how you pull that trade off without losing a lot of depth. Butler probably has 2 more good seasons left, so a win now team makes the most sense. He could also opt out of his contract in the summer and sign anywhere he wants. If he wants a championship bad enough, he'll take a discount to have better help.
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Re: Jimmy Butler open to trade (prefers hometown Houston Rockets) 

Post#23 » by Jadoogar » Tue Dec 10, 2024 4:29 pm

As long as Houston doesn't fire all their bullets (young players and picks), i like the fit with Houston. Not a defensive liability while providing perimeter shot creation. Jalen Green plus some minor assets. Amen, Eason and Sheppard should be off the table right now.
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Re: Jimmy Butler open to trade (prefers hometown Houston Rockets) 

Post#24 » by Onus » Tue Dec 10, 2024 4:32 pm

The warriors should have no interest in trading Wiggins + for Butler
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Re: Jimmy Butler open to trade (prefers hometown Houston Rockets) 

Post#25 » by mademan » Tue Dec 10, 2024 4:36 pm

Jadoogar wrote:As long as Houston doesn't fire all their bullets (young players and picks), i like the fit with Houston. Not a defensive liability while providing perimeter shot creation. Jalen Green plus some minor assets. Amen, Eason and Sheppard should be off the table right now.


I dont know how Houston makes the money work. They'd need to include FVV, who's been the leader of their team. Miami wouldnt value FVV, meaning Houston would have to overpay with the other stuff they add. Considering they can create max cap this summer...what's the rush on their end? They cant believe jimmy puts them over the top this year
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Re: Jimmy Butler open to trade (prefers hometown Houston Rockets) 

Post#26 » by BBallFreak » Tue Dec 10, 2024 4:36 pm

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You couldn't even answer my question. He was hurt last year in the playoffs. Talked all that **** and didn't even suit up. He's a year older and worse. You want Houston to gut their team for an aging narcissist because you don't like Jalen Green. Houston is not putting up with Butler antics when they don't have to. Udoka wouldn't ever go for it because he's uncontrollable.

Does that answer your question?
So, he was injured last year, meaning he'll be injured every year.

Got it!


Then Miami should keep him. Problem solved.
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Not thankfully not everyone thinks like you and sees that he can help a contender.
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Re: Jimmy Butler open to trade (prefers hometown Houston Rockets) 

Post#27 » by Jadoogar » Tue Dec 10, 2024 4:42 pm

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Jadoogar wrote:As long as Houston doesn't fire all their bullets (young players and picks), i like the fit with Houston. Not a defensive liability while providing perimeter shot creation. Jalen Green plus some minor assets. Amen, Eason and Sheppard should be off the table right now.


I dont know how Houston makes the money work. They'd need to include FVV, who's been the leader of their team. Miami wouldn't value FVV, meaning Houston would have to overpay with the other stuff they add. Considering they can create max cap this summer...what's the rush on their end? They cant believe jimmy puts them over the top this year


Yea money is definitely a concern. Can they move Green yet? Green and Brooks might get them close.
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Re: Jimmy Butler open to trade (prefers hometown Houston Rockets) 

Post#28 » by mademan » Tue Dec 10, 2024 4:44 pm

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Jadoogar wrote:As long as Houston doesn't fire all their bullets (young players and picks), i like the fit with Houston. Not a defensive liability while providing perimeter shot creation. Jalen Green plus some minor assets. Amen, Eason and Sheppard should be off the table right now.


I dont know how Houston makes the money work. They'd need to include FVV, who's been the leader of their team. Miami wouldn't value FVV, meaning Houston would have to overpay with the other stuff they add. Considering they can create max cap this summer...what's the rush on their end? They cant believe jimmy puts them over the top this year


Yea money is definitely a concern. Can they move Green yet? Green and Brooks might get them close.


Green cant be traded. I dont think they can build a package without FVV's contract. Maybe like a 5 for 1 package, which, midseason, seems improbable.
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Re: Jimmy Butler open to trade (prefers hometown Houston Rockets) 

Post#29 » by whatisacenter » Tue Dec 10, 2024 4:47 pm

Onus wrote:The warriors should have no interest in trading Wiggins + for Butler


I'm with you, especially if there is a contract extension involved.
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Re: Jimmy Butler open to trade (prefers hometown Houston Rockets) 

Post#30 » by Quattro » Tue Dec 10, 2024 4:47 pm

Another front runner.....
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Re: Jimmy Butler open to trade (prefers hometown Houston Rockets) 

Post#31 » by SpreeS » Tue Dec 10, 2024 4:49 pm

GSW would be another Phoenix, better fit but way older than Suns trio…
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Re: Jimmy Butler open to trade (prefers hometown Houston Rockets) 

Post#32 » by _NoMas » Tue Dec 10, 2024 4:50 pm

Warriors might the only team able/ willing to do the trade. I can’t see it working with anyone else, unless the clippers did a Kawhi/Butler trade
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Re: Jimmy Butler open to trade (prefers hometown Houston Rockets) 

Post#33 » by Wingy » Tue Dec 10, 2024 5:06 pm

Jimmy’s one of my all time favorites, but this is where teams get dumb. Throwing assets and resources at past prime, big names. Will they ever learn?
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Re: Jimmy Butler open to trade (prefers hometown Houston Rockets) 

Post#34 » by Childs » Tue Dec 10, 2024 5:28 pm

Im expecting a practice, where he plays with 3rd stringers, yelling "You need me" and "pay me", to Riley on the side line.
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Re: Jimmy Butler open to trade (prefers hometown Houston Rockets) 

Post#35 » by Iwasawitness » Tue Dec 10, 2024 5:31 pm

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What would last years playoffs have to do with Butler on the Rockets this year?

What are you even trying to argue?


You couldn't even answer my question. He was hurt last year in the playoffs. Talked all that **** and didn't even suit up. He's a year older and worse. You want Houston to gut their team for an aging narcissist because you don't like Jalen Green. Houston is not putting up with Butler antics when they don't have to. Udoka wouldn't ever go for it because he's uncontrollable.

Does that answer your question?


Well Jalen Green sucks. So trading him for anyone is addition by subtraction. I've gone blue in the face trying to tell this forum how bad he was for the last 4 years but it's getting hard to deny at this point. Trade the guy to a tanking team and let him put up a billion shots because that's the only thing he can do. The dude has a -13 net rating this year so far but you've got a few delusional people left still excited cause he can score 20ppg. Gotten worse each season of his career.

What are Butler's antics that you referenced that are so uncontrollable?


That’s great and all, but Jalen Green can’t be traded this year. Multiple people have pointed that out to you and for some reason you aren’t getting it.
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Re: Jimmy Butler open to trade (prefers hometown Houston Rockets) 

Post#36 » by Prez » Tue Dec 10, 2024 5:35 pm

Really interesting situation since he's 35 and a big time extension for him at this age/mileage would be a bad move, but he's also right now only on a 1 + 1 deal and is still a terrific player who could be a massive swing piece for any existing contender. Like if he finds his way to Golden State, he's still good enough where healthy Steph + Jimmy is a massive problem for anyone.
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Re: Jimmy Butler open to trade (prefers hometown Houston Rockets) 

Post#37 » by mg » Tue Dec 10, 2024 5:43 pm

I think Jimmy has 2 more elite playoff runs in him even at age 35. Considering he was already 23 when he entered the league he doesn't have a ton of minutes on his odometer.

If I'm the Warriors and able to strike a deal w/ Miami, I'd give him a 2 year (or 1+1) this offseason to match Curry's contract. It would give Steph a few more shots at the golden ring before he retires and then start the rebuild in '27 when they both come off the books. The Warriors have all their future FRP's except for that funky top 20 protected one in 2030 which Washington owns (and will never convey if they have already begun a rebuild by that point).
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Re: Jimmy Butler open to trade (prefers hometown Houston Rockets) 

Post#38 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Tue Dec 10, 2024 5:45 pm

This has the Warriors name all over it (whether their fans like it or not).
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Re: Jimmy Butler open to trade (prefers hometown Houston Rockets) 

Post#39 » by jasonxxx102 » Tue Dec 10, 2024 5:47 pm

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jasonxxx102 wrote:
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You couldn't even answer my question. He was hurt last year in the playoffs. Talked all that **** and didn't even suit up. He's a year older and worse. You want Houston to gut their team for an aging narcissist because you don't like Jalen Green. Houston is not putting up with Butler antics when they don't have to. Udoka wouldn't ever go for it because he's uncontrollable.

Does that answer your question?


Well Jalen Green sucks. So trading him for anyone is addition by subtraction. I've gone blue in the face trying to tell this forum how bad he was for the last 4 years but it's getting hard to deny at this point. Trade the guy to a tanking team and let him put up a billion shots because that's the only thing he can do. The dude has a -13 net rating this year so far but you've got a few delusional people left still excited cause he can score 20ppg. Gotten worse each season of his career.

What are Butler's antics that you referenced that are so uncontrollable?


That’s great and all, but Jalen Green can’t be traded this year. Multiple people have pointed that out to you and for some reason you aren’t getting it.


Who are you? :lol:

He can be traded as someone else pointed out but it just means whoever trades for him is going to have to pay more so he's just harder to move.

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Re: Jimmy Butler open to trade (prefers hometown Houston Rockets) 

Post#40 » by cupcakesnake » Tue Dec 10, 2024 5:55 pm

BBallFreak wrote:
Chuck Everett wrote:
jasonxxx102 wrote:
What would last years playoffs have to do with Butler on the Rockets this year?

What are you even trying to argue?


You couldn't even answer my question. He was hurt last year in the playoffs. Talked all that **** and didn't even suit up. He's a year older and worse. You want Houston to gut their team for an aging narcissist because you don't like Jalen Green. Houston is not putting up with Butler antics when they don't have to. Udoka wouldn't ever go for it because he's uncontrollable.

Does that answer your question?
So, he was injured last year, meaning he'll be injured every year.

Got it!


He's been injured every year. Last year was the first time the timing worked out bad for the playoffs, but he hasn't played 70 games since his time in Chicago. He's 35 now.

A team trading for Jimmy wants to go all in for a championship this year. Jimmy is more a roll of the dice, rather than adding a rock solid piece. He's still totally a star, but after 34, players are ticking time bombs. There are only 9 starters in the NBA this year older than Jimmy.

If that dice roll goes well though, he's a serious piece for a title run or two. He's such a high-motor genius that can make plays all over the floor and occasionally be an elite scoring threat.

I also wonder what Jimmy's contract hopes are. Player option next year for 52m, and his brief moment of publicly angling for an extension drew Pat Riley's public scorn. He's been an absolute terror in the past when trying to secure his bag.

We all know the LA teams (and Milwaukee, Philidephia and Phoenix) would move heaven and earth to get him but they don't have much to offer, especially now when OKC and Houston are overflowing with assets.
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