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Re: PG: Knicks vs ATL 

Post#201 » by The KnicksFix » Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:04 am

START PRECIOUS, START DEUCE
HART AND MIKAL OFF THE BENCH
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
IT FIXES OUR POINT OF OUR ATTACK DEFENSE AND REBOUNDING

Imma keep beating this dead hoarse my god
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Re: PG: Knicks vs ATL 

Post#202 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:05 am

DaGawd wrote:i’d be lying if i said mitch fixes all of our issues.. there’s something deeper wrong with this team

I knew this team was cooked when Josh hart said we were being too harsh on his boy Mikal.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs ATL 

Post#203 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:06 am

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Ok well as long as they are nice and emotionless while playing like dookie we shouldn’t say nothin

Nobody will hold him accountable his daddy runs the squad




You can say what you want, but unlike the guy you're defending if one of his teammates says something he's not going to be on the verge of assaulting him. Also, you spent years defending Randle after he played far worse than Brunson ever has, I don't think I ever saw you criticize him. You're like the lawyer that defends the murderer but wants to prosecute the thief, be better rob.


What if it was Carmelo Anthony then? People are afraid to criticize this man. It never had to be done with Randle because he was always viscerally hated even when playing well




What if? That's a pretty cool TV series, sorry I already watched it. Nobody is afraid to criticize him, we just know he's capable of more and he'll self-correct without threatening assistant coaches.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs ATL 

Post#204 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:07 am

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Sorry Nodope, but Jan Knicks were special and we should've ran it back. We were great on both ends. This team stinks
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I wonder if the Heat fans look back on March/April 2024 with this much reverence, they were net #1 for that month.


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You don't build teams based around 1 month.

The Heat has been to two finals with their same core. So I guess Pat and Heat fans disagree with you.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs ATL 

Post#205 » by robillionaire » Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:11 am

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You can say what you want, but unlike the guy you're defending if one of his teammates says something he's not going to be on the verge of assaulting him. Also, you spent years defending Randle after he played far worse than Brunson ever has, I don't think I ever saw you criticize him. You're like the lawyer that defends the murderer but wants to prosecute the thief, be better rob.


What if it was Carmelo Anthony then? People are afraid to criticize this man. It never had to be done with Randle because he was always viscerally hated even when playing well




What if? That's a pretty cool TV series, sorry I already watched it. Nobody is afraid to criticize him, we just know he's capable of more and he'll self-correct without threatening assistant coaches.


On my god call the cops he threatened the coach lol
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Re: PG: Knicks vs ATL 

Post#206 » by JayTWill » Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:11 am

Dyson Daniels has been a tough matchup for Brunson this year in Atlanta and last year in New Orleans. One of my biggest concerns about this team in the postseason is running into a high level perimeter defender with length to slow down Brunson. I don't think we have really seen him against a defender as good as Daniels in the postseason since he has arrived in New York.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs ATL 

Post#207 » by WargamesX » Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:11 am

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I don't want to capitulate on a player who's currently injured, but expecting Mitch back to "save our defense" would be a disservice.

-Knicks brought in OG and Bridges to be the top tier perimeter defenders, and only 1 of them has lived up to that billing.
-Never play drop coverage with KAT at the 5 when a PG has a float game.
-Knicks don't have the depth at the bench like last season (basically, I would play more Hukporti and Dadiet, but I'm not a coach that doesn't give rookies a chance)


I am not saying we have to capitulate but it is still what it is. KaT is very much a Pau Gasol player. The lakers don’t make those great Championship runs if they don’t have Andrew Bynum to put Gasol at PF. I think KaT is a better defender than Pau, but you said it yourself we can’t run drop coverage with KaT on PG’s like Trae, Kyrie, and Donovan Mitchell, but drop coverage is exactly how you stop players like them or at the very least give them a hard time.

If anything be thankful Mitch is on the team healing because if he was not they would have to figure out how to get a player like him. Sims is a great third center but Mitch is dominant as a defensive center and as an offensive rebounder. That’s is exactly what they needed to win this game.

If Mitch comes back healthy talent wise they can win a chip, it’s take luck and hard work but there wouldn’t be a whole on the roster and they would have the right talent in its prime.


I can guarantee if prime Pau played in today's NBA, he would also get eaten alive by today's PGs.

Drop only works if your center can deter dribble penetration while walling off the rolling center. KAT's not quick enough for those coverages.

I agree, fully and I think KaT is a better defender than Pau was in general, but like you said he can’t do drop coverage. Meanwhile Mitch is a top tier drop coverage defender and offensive rebounder. A lot of our losses against the good teams he would have helped a lot.

That’s why I don’t take these losses to much to heart. We have a weakness being exploited but the solution is already on the roster.

Also it shouldn’t take to long to for Mitch and KaT to figure out how to play together, KaT has experience in a similar role playing next to Gobert, and we would be asking Mitch to do the same stuff essentially
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Re: PG: Knicks vs ATL 

Post#208 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:11 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Sorry Nodope, but Jan Knicks were special and we should've ran it back. We were great on both ends. This team stinks
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I wonder if the Heat fans look back on March/April 2024 with this much reverence, they were net #1 for that month.


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You don't build teams based around 1 month.

The Heat has been to two finals with their same core. So I guess Pat and Heat fans disagree with you.



The PG that helped them get to the finals left, just like IHart left. Riley is about to trade Jimmy for a McDonalds happy meal too.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs ATL 

Post#209 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:13 am

robillionaire wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
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What if it was Carmelo Anthony then? People are afraid to criticize this man. It never had to be done with Randle because he was always viscerally hated even when playing well




What if? That's a pretty cool TV series, sorry I already watched it. Nobody is afraid to criticize him, we just know he's capable of more and he'll self-correct without threatening assistant coaches.


On my god call the cops he threatened the coach lol



rob supports assaulting coworkers, nice.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs ATL 

Post#210 » by robillionaire » Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:15 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
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What if? That's a pretty cool TV series, sorry I already watched it. Nobody is afraid to criticize him, we just know he's capable of more and he'll self-correct without threatening assistant coaches.


On my god call the cops he threatened the coach lol



rob supports assaulting coworkers, nice.


You probably were the one who ratted out Luigi
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Re: PG: Knicks vs ATL 

Post#211 » by DaGawd » Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:15 am

JayTWill wrote:Dyson Daniels has been a tough matchup for Brunson this year in Atlanta and last year in New Orleans. One of my biggest concerns about this team in the postseason is running into a high level perimeter defender with length to slow down Brunson. I don't think we have really seen him against a defender as good as Daniels in the postseason since he has arrived in New York.

daniels is a nice player defensively and all but if our veteran star can’t cook a young hoe…
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Re: PG: Knicks vs ATL 

Post#212 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:16 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
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I wonder if the Heat fans look back on March/April 2024 with this much reverence, they were net #1 for that month.


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You don't build teams based around 1 month.

The Heat has been to two finals with their same core. So I guess Pat and Heat fans disagree with you.



The PG that helped them get to the finals left, just like IHart left. Riley is about to trade Jimmy for a McDonalds happy meal too.

Lowry wasn't part of that core. Their core is Butler, Herro, Bam. They made the finals twice with that core, with two different PGs. They didn't break up that core after 1 month like we did. They stuck with it for years. We should've gave it a shot for at least another season before potentially breaking it up. That was the most dominant basketball we played in a decade. This team isn't even close to that level. We're stuck in treadmill territory.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs ATL 

Post#213 » by whocares1 » Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:16 am

robillionaire wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
Ok well as long as they are nice and emotionless while playing like dookie we shouldn’t say nothin

Nobody will hold him accountable his daddy runs the squad




You can say what you want, but unlike the guy you're defending if one of his teammates says something he's not going to be on the verge of assaulting him. Also, you spent years defending Randle after he played far worse than Brunson ever has, I don't think I ever saw you criticize him. You're like the lawyer that defends the murderer but wants to prosecute the thief, be better rob.


What if it was Carmelo Anthony then? People are afraid to criticize this man. It never had to be done with Randle because he was always viscerally hated even when playing well



People are afraid to criticize Brunson? Thats an insane take. He was criticized the first two games against Philly and then he dropped 40 in like 4 consecutive playoff games. He was criticized for how poorly he started this year and now he’s averaging 25 points 7.5 assists on 43% from three. Like maybe people don’t want to criticize him bc he’s been good 95% of the time?
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Re: PG: Knicks vs ATL 

Post#214 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:17 am

Brunson had a bad game but that doesn’t mean he should be burned at the stake. It’s not hard to figure out why he is beloved and deserves the praise. He will hold himself accountable so not even worried about this one. But yea, he still gets critized when he plays bad, just don’t have to go crazy with ut
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Re: PG: Knicks vs ATL 

Post#215 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:18 am

robillionaire wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
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On my god call the cops he threatened the coach lol



rob supports assaulting coworkers, nice.


You probably were the one who ratted out Luigi


I'm not the one that supports the multi-millionaire going after a co-worker that makes far less than him and has less job security. You're the class traitor sticking up for the 1%, I didn't know this about you rob, pretty sad to see.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs ATL 

Post#216 » by HerSports85 » Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:20 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Sorry Nodope, but Jan Knicks were special and we should've ran it back. We were great on both ends. This team stinks
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I wonder if the Heat fans look back on March/April 2024 with this much reverence, they were net #1 for that month.


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You don't build teams based around 1 month.

The Heat has been to two finals with their same core. So I guess Pat and Heat fans disagree with you.


How are you running anything back without IHART? Randle playing Center?? No thank you
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Post#217 » by TheGreenArrow » Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:20 am

JayTWill wrote:Dyson Daniels has been a tough matchup for Brunson this year in Atlanta and last year in New Orleans. One of my biggest concerns about this team in the postseason is running into a high level perimeter defender with length to slow down Brunson. I don't think we have really seen him against a defender as good as Daniels in the postseason since he has arrived in New York.


This not good at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Knicks went all in on with the thinking that Brunson is that dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nobody should be able to lock u up if you’re really that dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It’s looking like it’s back firing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: PG: Knicks vs ATL 

Post#218 » by TKKnicks1 » Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:21 am

We will beat Orlando Sunday and move into 3rd place and all will be well. Let's not forget the bigger picture we are trying to win the Larry O'Brien trophy not the Emirates trophy.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs ATL 

Post#219 » by whocares1 » Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:21 am

DaGawd wrote:
JayTWill wrote:Dyson Daniels has been a tough matchup for Brunson this year in Atlanta and last year in New Orleans. One of my biggest concerns about this team in the postseason is running into a high level perimeter defender with length to slow down Brunson. I don't think we have really seen him against a defender as good as Daniels in the postseason since he has arrived in New York.

daniels is a nice player defensively and all but if our veteran star can’t cook a young hoe…


The thing is that Trae didn’t have to worry about scoring on anyone. If it’s not a favorable matchup he gets screens and more screens and more screens until he can get an easy floater. We just don’t do that enough.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs ATL 

Post#220 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:24 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
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3toheadmelo wrote:The Heat has been to two finals with their same core. So I guess Pat and Heat fans disagree with you.



The PG that helped them get to the finals left, just like IHart left. Riley is about to trade Jimmy for a McDonalds happy meal too.

Lowry wasn't part of that core. Their core is Butler, Herro, Bam. They made the finals twice with that core, with two different PGs. They didn't break up that core after 1 month like we did. They stuck with it for years. We should've gave it a shot for at least another season before potentially breaking it up. That was the most dominant basketball we played in a decade. This team isn't even close to that level. We're stuck in treadmill territory.


I didn't say anything about Lowry 8-) Herro started a grand total of 5 games when they went to the finals the first time, Dragic started 16 games for them, and the second time they went to the finals Herro played in 1 game in the entire playoffs, while Lowry and Vincent were the guys that did it. Their PG left, seems like they need a decent PG to make it more than they need Herro, which is why they're meh this year.


Building around 1 month, the Sixers were net 3 last year right before the playoffs, we beat them. That's to say, net rating for 1 month is really irrelevant, especially with how bad Randle has been in the playoffs, you don't run that back when the C that was partially responsible for it is gone.

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