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Re: Jaylen Brown Thread – Finals MVP, 2024 

Post#1041 » by brackdan70 » Sat Dec 7, 2024 1:43 pm

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JB could've just donated that money to me so I could subscribe to BBall Index, StatHead, dunksandthrees, and all the stats sites/substacks.

I don't think he likes what you do with those stats.

There could be a site out there somewhere that paints him in a very good light. Without the funds, I wouldn't be able to know.

He is top 20 in LEBRON (BBall Index) this year. EPM still hasn’t quite got with the program though.
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Re: Jaylen Brown Thread – Finals MVP, 2024 

Post#1042 » by phincsfan » Sat Dec 7, 2024 2:56 pm

JB's handle continues to be solid. Some slip ups every now and then but when he gets moving downhill that ball doesn't leave his area.
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Re: Jaylen Brown Thread – Finals MVP, 2024 

Post#1043 » by ThePigeon » Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:50 am

I like that he finds adversaries on opposing team. He takes it personal and plays really hard against these guys. Makes it real competition, real rivalry, playoff like games. I just wish he will make it so more often
He and PP are the real dogs on this team
I don't like the 'we're friends etc.' vibes of today's basketball. You are from the other team - we are here to beat you and steal your soul
Like the 80's (I wish...)
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Re: Jaylen Brown Thread – Finals MVP, 2024 

Post#1044 » by ConstableGeneva » Thu Dec 12, 2024 7:56 am

via BBall Index:
The top 10 in Post Up Impact/75

1. Jonas Valančiūnas
2. Nikola Vučević
3. Jaylen Brown
4. Julius Randle
5. DeMar DeRozan
6. Obi Toppin
7. Grant Williams
8. Daniel Gafford
9. Pascal Siakam
10. De'Andre Hunter

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Re: Jaylen Brown Thread – Finals MVP, 2024 

Post#1045 » by shackles10 » Thu Dec 12, 2024 3:23 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:via BBall Index:
The top 10 in Post Up Impact/75

1. Jonas Valančiūnas
2. Nikola Vučević
3. Jaylen Brown
4. Julius Randle
5. DeMar DeRozan
6. Obi Toppin
7. Grant Williams
8. Daniel Gafford
9. Pascal Siakam
10. De'Andre Hunter

-250 minute min


Did not expect to see Grant Williams on this list.
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Re: Jaylen Brown Thread – Finals MVP, 2024 

Post#1046 » by keevsnick1 » Fri Dec 13, 2024 8:53 pm

Really enjoyed Brown's play-making leap this year. Went from 3.6APG with a 16.5 AST% last year to 4.7APG with a 20.1 AST% this year. Some of the C's best offense this year has been Jaylen hitting shooters off his drives.
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Re: Jaylen Brown Thread – Finals MVP, 2024 

Post#1047 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Dec 17, 2024 3:20 am

Random... Jaylen Brown and Jason Terry have both played in 124 playoff games. The Jet played in 19 seasons. This is just JB's 9th season.
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Re: Jaylen Brown Thread – Finals MVP, 2024 

Post#1048 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Dec 17, 2024 8:14 am

One of the old stats that I've only grown to appreciate this year is Adjusted Assist-to-Pass Percentage, which is the percentage of passes by a player that turn into an assist, secondary assist, or FT assist.

So JB has always been someone who passes way less relative to the passes he receives. It's just been that way on the team for years. And I just keep chalking it up to well, someone has to be that guy, he's a finisher, that's his role. Then we notice more and more of that playmaking leap (last season was already significant imo). I think I commented on this on another thread -- that compared to JT, JB's passes directly lead to assists while JT's passes lead more to the swing-swing ball movement variety.

So here's the stat...

Among 164 players that have played at least 10 games (min 25 mpg) this season, Jaylen is 6th (SIXTH!) in Adjusted Assist-to-Pass %, which coupled with the eye test, tells me that while he still doesn't pass as much as I personally would want, most of his passes are meaningful and get real opportunities for his teammates. ('Cause there's passing for passing sake, and that's not the type of team Joe built). We're not a "ball moving team" per se but when we do pass the ball, we get a good/great shot out of it. Like why pass the ball 7 or 8 times in a possession when you can get the same result with just 2 or 3 passes? (Sometimes even one pass, the type of possessions I and Scal hate lol.)

Anyway, he's just behind premier point guards like Ja, Trae, Curry, and Garland in that stat.

EDIT:
JB Potential Assists by Year:

2019-20: 4.1
2020-21: 5.7
2021-22: 6.4
2022-23: 6.6
2023-24: 6.8
2024-25: 8.5

Trending in the right direction!
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Re: Jaylen Brown Thread – Finals MVP, 2024 

Post#1049 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Dec 17, 2024 8:29 am

Here's the top 12 players in Adjusted Assist-to-Passes Percentage:

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Pretty good company of playmakers to belong in especially since JB is not even a point guard or even the primary playmaker on the team.

He was 71st out of 163 guys in this stat just two years ago. (White and Tatum were ahead of him on the team that season.)
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Re: Jaylen Brown Thread – Finals MVP, 2024 

Post#1050 » by Bad-Thoma » Tue Dec 17, 2024 12:24 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:Here's the top 12 players in Adjusted Assist-to-Passes Percentage:

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Pretty good company of playmakers to belong in especially since JB is not even a point guard or even the primary playmaker on the team.

He was 71st out of 163 guys in this stat just two years ago. (White and Tatum were ahead of him on the team that season.)


I'm not an "eye test" guy when it comes to basketball but I'm making an exception in this case: I know JB is playing really well because according to my eye test BK2020 isn't turning threads into how much Jaylen is ruining the Celtics, the NBA, and probably civilization as we know it.
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Re: Jaylen Brown Thread – Finals MVP, 2024 

Post#1051 » by GoCeltics123 » Thu Dec 19, 2024 2:19 am

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Re: Jaylen Brown Thread – Finals MVP, 2024 

Post#1052 » by Bleedsgreen » Fri Dec 20, 2024 1:04 am

Bad-Thoma wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:Here's the top 12 players in Adjusted Assist-to-Passes Percentage:

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Pretty good company of playmakers to belong in especially since JB is not even a point guard or even the primary playmaker on the team.

He was 71st out of 163 guys in this stat just two years ago. (White and Tatum were ahead of him on the team that season.)


I'm not an "eye test" guy when it comes to basketball but I'm making an exception in this case: I know JB is playing really well because according to my eye test BK2020 isn't turning threads into how much Jaylen is ruining the Celtics, the NBA, and probably civilization as we know it.

Well BK2020 has been gonzo recently. Have a feeling he might got wacked by the hammer that took out the Comedian . Noted this thread been civil and not a hellscape.
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Re: Jaylen Brown Thread – SI's Player of the Year, 2024 

Post#1053 » by ConstableGeneva » Mon Dec 23, 2024 8:10 pm

Congrats to JB for being named Sports Illustrated's Player of the Year!

https://www.si.com/nba/jaylen-brown-reached-nba-mountaintop-2024
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Re: Jaylen Brown Thread – Finals MVP, 2024 

Post#1054 » by bisme37 » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:28 pm

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Re: Jaylen Brown Thread – Finals MVP, 2024 

Post#1055 » by ConstableGeneva » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:32 pm

Here's a stat... Only two guys are putting up averages of 24/6/4++ with fewer than 3 turnovers a game this season -- Tatum and Brown. I believe both of them play for the Celtics.
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Re: Jaylen Brown Thread – Finals MVP, 2024 

Post#1056 » by ConstableGeneva » Thu Jan 2, 2025 6:07 pm

Banchero, who's barely played, getting more AS votes than JB is a failure in the JB-stans' part. Do better, guys.
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Re: Jaylen Brown Thread – Finals MVP, 2024 

Post#1057 » by ConstableGeneva » Sat Jan 4, 2025 2:05 pm

Since getting booed for not getting traded for Jimmy Butler on draft night, Jaylen Brown has signed (at the time) the highest contract in NBA history, won a title, and earned Finals MVP. Butler is still ringless, is already 35 yo, and has been suspended 7 games for conduct detrimental to the team.
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Re: Jaylen Brown Thread – Finals MVP, 2024 

Post#1059 » by 165bows » Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:43 pm

Bleedsgreen wrote:
Bad-Thoma wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:Here's the top 12 players in Adjusted Assist-to-Passes Percentage:

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Pretty good company of playmakers to belong in especially since JB is not even a point guard or even the primary playmaker on the team.

He was 71st out of 163 guys in this stat just two years ago. (White and Tatum were ahead of him on the team that season.)


I'm not an "eye test" guy when it comes to basketball but I'm making an exception in this case: I know JB is playing really well because according to my eye test BK2020 isn't turning threads into how much Jaylen is ruining the Celtics, the NBA, and probably civilization as we know it.

Well BK2020 has been gonzo recently. Have a feeling he might got wacked by the hammer that took out the Comedian . Noted this thread been civil and not a hellscape.

I kind of miss some of those guys like BK and cave etc. Ie it’s totally fine to go hard on some takes and be wrong about it and still be around.

Hell I’ve had some elite takes (Brogdon 5/1 trade, get KP, a few other small ones) and I also argued for years with galaxy brain takes like that Avery Bradley was as good as Brad Beal and that Olynyk was a good pick over Giannis. 8-)
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Re: Jaylen Brown Thread – Finals MVP, 2024 

Post#1060 » by Bad-Thoma » Sat Jan 11, 2025 9:47 pm

165bows wrote:
Bleedsgreen wrote:
Bad-Thoma wrote:
I'm not an "eye test" guy when it comes to basketball but I'm making an exception in this case: I know JB is playing really well because according to my eye test BK2020 isn't turning threads into how much Jaylen is ruining the Celtics, the NBA, and probably civilization as we know it.

Well BK2020 has been gonzo recently. Have a feeling he might got wacked by the hammer that took out the Comedian . Noted this thread been civil and not a hellscape.

I kind of miss some of those guys like BK and cave etc. Ie it’s totally fine to go hard on some takes and be wrong about it and still be around.

Hell I’ve had some elite takes (Brogdon 5/1 trade, get KP, a few other small ones) and I also argued for years with galaxy brain takes like that Avery Bradley was as good as Brad Beal and that Olynyk was a good pick over Giannis. 8-)


No doubt. I thought RJ Hunter was going to be an absolute draft steal... and that's one of the bad takes I haven't blocked out. I gave BK a lot of ribbing about his JB obsession but he never took it all that personally. Cave was always entertaining, sometimes in a good way and sometimes in a bad way.

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