The Clipper General Board w/Random Thoughts, Youth Development, Ex Clippers Shinin', etc. Extravaganza

[esqtvd]

Bad team and all, BBJ has been a bright spot for the Pels. Bring up the team's record, but it's not his fault the Zion experiment is a failure, Ingram can't stay healthy, Dejounte Murray doesn't move the needle, and the Pels use the Saints medical staff.

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He's had another nice little run (14/2/1 on 49/43 last 7 games), 6/7 in double digits, and is up to 44/34 shooting, good for him, though still a solid amount below league average TS% (54.0% vs 57.4%), it's good to see him progressing, especially as a passer.

Maybe he will develop into a player that can be useful for a winning team, time will tell, but always nice to see players get better whether or not it is on the Clippers. Rising tide lifts all ships, more and better talent in the league is good for all fans.

Defense and consistency are really the question. The Clippers didn't need a guy who can maybe pile up points on a losing team. KPJ already proved he could do that in HOU and did it better, and although struggling to get his game back, scored 17, 19 and 16 his last 3 games [17 ppg on 50/45.5%] and is kicking in lots of assists and rebs. It's still a crapshoot at this point.


BBJ or Jordan Miller on a two-way was the other decision. Keeping both was not an option. Same player, really. Except BBJ is younger and taller. So again, it's the other factors. Both BBJ and Miller were available to anybody in the NBA who wanted to offer them a REAL contract. The league passed on both of them. [And as we know, the Spurs only signed BBJ to an Exhibit 10 and CUT him!]

Relax bro, I'm just bringing up BBJ's solid play on the Pels as of late. I'm way past who we kept and who we let go. Calm down, we know the Spurs cut him. This wasn't a moan & groan post.

It's cool. Just recapping for those who came in late. The choices the FO made were reasonable. I like to explore their thinking. I am no fan of their decisions--especially since they seem to have repeated the backup center mistake of 2 years ago--but the BBJ-KPJ-Jordan Miller phalanx seems to make sense. [Of the 3, I still think KPJ has the best chance of being a playoff rotation player.]

[esqtvd]

Number of games played w/o best player:

Okc- 0
Mem-11
Hou-0
Dal-6
Den-3
Phx-10
GSW-5
Min-0
LAC-27
LAL- 1
SAS-5
SAC- 0

[Clemenza]

Sorry to hark on the past, but this is the very reason we should've taken MJP over Jerome Robinson. OKC takes SGA and we still would have MPJ. Or they take both and we still have our picks. Or we keep SGA and they take MPJ and all of our picks.

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[Clemenza]

Number of games played w/o best player:

Okc- 0
Mem-11
Hou-0
Dal-6
Den-3
Phx-10
GSW-5
Min-0
LAC-27
LAL- 1
SAS-5
SAC- 0

OKC got ran last night. They better come off some of those 30+ draft picks and go get Butler form Miami

[madmaxmedia]

Number of games played w/o best player:

Okc- 0
Mem-11
Hou-0
Dal-6
Den-3
Phx-10
GSW-5
Min-0
LAC-27
LAL- 1
SAS-5
SAC- 0

OKC got ran last night. They better come off some of those 30+ draft picks and go get Butler form Miami

At some point you gotta start consolidating those picks and commit to a move. But the NBA draft is so top heavy that it's hard to move up. OKC is already really good, I would think now is a good time to cash in some of those chips to get a vet like Butler.

There's a generally accepted NFL draft value table for picks, I wonder what a realistic NBA one would look like.

[madmaxmedia]

Defense and consistency are really the question. The Clippers didn't need a guy who can maybe pile up points on a losing team. KPJ already proved he could do that in HOU and did it better, and although struggling to get his game back, scored 17, 19 and 16 his last 3 games [17 ppg on 50/45.5%] and is kicking in lots of assists and rebs. It's still a crapshoot at this point.


BBJ or Jordan Miller on a two-way was the other decision. Keeping both was not an option. Same player, really. Except BBJ is younger and taller. So again, it's the other factors. Both BBJ and Miller were available to anybody in the NBA who wanted to offer them a REAL contract. The league passed on both of them. [And as we know, the Spurs only signed BBJ to an Exhibit 10 and CUT him!]

Relax bro, I'm just bringing up BBJ's solid play on the Pels as of late. I'm way past who we kept and who we let go. Calm down, we know the Spurs cut him. This wasn't a moan & groan post.

It's cool. Just recapping for those who came in late. The choices the FO made were reasonable. I like to explore their thinking. I am no fan of their decisions--especially since they seem to have repeated the backup center mistake of 2 years ago--but the BBJ-KPJ-Jordan Miller phalanx seems to make sense. [Of the 3, I still think KPJ has the best chance of being a playoff rotation player.]

Color me surprised, but I am happy for BBJ. His recent stretch should at least keep him around in the league for some of that NBA money. Considering how raw he was even in his one year at Duke, maybe it just was gonna take this long for him to develop. Pretty sure he got reasonable chances as a Clipper, but we also weren't in the position to give him 20-30 MPG alongside 213 to give him an extended trial. NOP is still a train wreck.

[MartinToVaught]

OKC got ran last night. They better come off some of those 30+ draft picks and go get Butler form Miami

I'd gladly trade them Kawhi for all of our picks back.

[Clemenza]

So true..

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[Clemenza]

Let's Go! It don't stop!

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[Clemenza]

Tosan Evbuomwan, a 6'7" power forward. He's 20+ points a game now. Bad time for Kobe Brown to be injured.

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[MartinToVaught]

So true..

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This tweet is so overdramatic. This isn't 8 years ago when the state of big men in the NBA was so weak that DeAndre Jordan was an all-star and the East team had no healthy centers on their roster. The best player in the league right now is a center and there's plenty of other great bigs around the league. Maybe they don't look or play exactly like Karl Malone in the '90s, but Malone was the Embiid of his era and would have been roasted on Twitter for his playoff meltdowns if he was playing today, so...

[Clemenza]

To keep it fair around here, what's going on with our guy in Philly?

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[Clemenza]

Wow! This sh*t is personal

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[Ballings7]

Wow! This sh*t is personal

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Already prepped for him to not be an All-star.. unless there's an injury replacement. But, Powell is an all-star for this team.

[esqtvd]

That's nice but I didn't know we still had divisions

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[og15]

So true..

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Haha, that's a bad comparison though.

Mailman and Shaq should compare to Jokic, Embiid and Giannis, all who play a lot of interior and strength game mixed with skilled and perimeter game.

Wemby and Chet accurately should be compared to guys like Kareem and Ralph Sampson. Sampson was a jumpshooter, Kareem developed an unstoppable ranged post most because he couldn't play like the Wilt's of the world due to the body he had.

Chet and Wemby can't play like Shaq or Karl Malone (who did shoot a lot of jumpers along with driving and bulling through people) even if they wanted to.

Them shooting three's is just the evolution of the skinny jumpshooting super tall big man.

[og15]

So true..

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This tweet is so overdramatic. This isn't 8 years ago when the state of big men in the NBA was so weak that DeAndre Jordan was an all-star and the East team had no healthy centers on their roster. The best player in the league right now is a center and there's plenty of other great bigs around the league. Maybe they don't look or play exactly like Karl Malone in the '90s, but Malone was the Embiid of his era and would have been roasted on Twitter for his playoff meltdowns if he was playing today, so...

Exactly, they are making a biased comparison to try to force their point.

Jokic, Embiid and Giannis are around. AD is still here. There weren't two Shaq's or two Malone's when they played. You also had David Robinson a face up, middy and drive and draw fouls guy. Ewing who loved mid range jumpers and of course Hakeem, a mid post guy with a lot of face up action, mid range counters and back to the basket too.

Right now there are two bigs scoring 30+ ppg. Embiid would be too if not for injury. AD is at 26 ppg and Wemby at 25 ppg and climbing.

Wemby over his last 16 games is averaging 30/10/5 with 4 blocks and shooting 51/39/87.

Out of the top 15 in ppg in the league, Wemby 12th, AD 7th, Jokic 3rd and Giannis 1st. Embiid might get in there if his body survives though he might not get to the games requirement, and Towns is 16th at 24.5 ppg.

[og15]

Wow! This sh*t is personal

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Already prepped for him to not be an All-star.. unless there's an injury replacement. But, Powell is an all-star for this team.

Obviously he won't be a starter, I'll assume Luka and Shai get starters, so his comp would be:

Jalen Williams (OKC): 22/6/5
Ja Morant (MEM): 21/4/8
Kyrie (DAL): 25/5/5
Edwards (MIN): 25/6/4
Steph (GSW): 23/5/7
Booker (PHO): 25/4/6
Fox (SAC): 26/5/6

Powell (LAC): 24/3/3

Yea, that's a tough group to go against, and he would be seen as the weakest "all round" player of the group as he's mainly just a scorer while most of those guys are much better playmakers.

[Ballings7]

Russ' soul

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Surprised he didn't get a tech for doing that in front of the PIstons bench.

Fun stuff as usual. Will be interesting to see how he does in the POs.

[Ballings7]

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Already prepped for him to not be an All-star.. unless there's an injury replacement. But, Powell is an all-star for this team.

Obviously he won't be a starter, I'll assume Luka and Shai get starters, so his comp would be:

Jalen Williams (OKC): 22/6/5
Ja Morant (MEM): 21/4/8
Kyrie (DAL): 25/5/5
Edwards (MIN): 25/6/4
Steph (GSW): 23/5/7
Booker (PHO): 25/4/6
Fox (SAC): 26/5/6

Powell (LAC): 24/3/3

Yea, that's a tough group to go against, and he would be seen as the weakest "all round" player of the group as he's mainly just a scorer while most of those guys are much better playmakers.

Yes. I think injury replacement is realistic.. especially this season. Booker, Kyrie, Morant, Luka... also not sure about Fox if the Kings don't get to .500 or better.